Would you baptize your child to make the grandparents happy?

Oh no way!

DH's family is Catholic though DH no longer is. His mother had an absolute fit when we declined to have DS baptized. As far as I'm concerned, my DS may make his religious decisions on his own.
 
I'm sure I'm opening a big can of worms by even asking this, but would you baptize your child to make the grandparents happy? My dad just asked me if we're going to baptize DD (who is a toddler). I was caught a little off guard, and I told him that I hadn't thought about it. Honestly, it's not something that ever crossed my mind. We're completely non-religious, although I woudn't say that I'm an athiest (DH is another story on that I think).

We were both raised Catholic and we both stopped practicing as soon as we went to college. I think it would please my dad to see my DD baptized Catholic. Part of me thinks "what's the harm?," but another part of me thinks that I'd be a total hypocrite if I baptized her knowing full well that #1) this isn't something we even believe in and #2) that we have no intention of raising her in a religion.

My parents are loving grandparents, and they are very good to my DD. I personally don't see the harm in baptizing her if it makes my dad feel better. My DH could care less either way, so if I want to do this I doubt he'd even say anything about it. The things that worry me are the hypocrite factor and also the inevitable "are you going to enroll DD in CCD and have her make the sacriments" question in the future (from my dad). I guess I would cross that bridge when I came to it, though. OK, enough rambling. I should throw in a popcorn:: on my own thread I'm sure:rotfl:


No, and a good church won't let you baptize a child under these circumstances. Baptism is a commitment from the parents on behalf of the child.
 
Though I had mixed feelings, I kind of did this with my son. I didn't do it for gifts or a receprion. I did it because my husbands mom was very vocal about wanting this. My husband was neutral about it, and I was unsure. A few years later I became a church member, so in our case, it all worked out for the best.
 
I'm Catholic, but I'm not practising. However, I am planning to get married in catholic church (if I ever get married :rolleyes: ) and to have my children baptized. And going to Catholic school.
You could say it's hypocrite, since I'm not practising myself anymore. However, for me, it's also part of a tradition, our culture. Everyone in the family has married in church, got their kids baptized, ... When you go to Catholic school, you have your first communion "in school", the preparation classes are given in the class, and you have your first communion with the other kids of your class, ...
I don't want my children to miss out all that. Whether they'll believe and really practise it when they are older, that's up to them. Just like it's up to me what I believe and how I "live" what I believe. But I think it's somehow my "duty" to make it possible for them to make that decision.
 

I'm Catholic, but I'm not practising. However, I am planning to get married in catholic church (if I ever get married :rolleyes: ) and to have my children baptized. And going to Catholic school.
You could say it's hypocrite, since I'm not practising myself anymore. However, for me, it's also part of a tradition, our culture. Everyone in the family has married in church, got their kids baptized, ... When you go to Catholic school, you have your first communion "in school", the preparation classes are given in the class, and you have your first communion with the other kids of your class, ...
I don't want my children to miss out all that. Whether they'll believe and really practise it when they are older, that's up to them. Just like it's up to me what I believe and how I "live" what I believe. But I think it's somehow my "duty" to make it possible for them to make that decision.
I see this as different from the OP. When you Baptize your kid(s) you are making a commitment to raise them Catholic. Since they will get the other sacraments and will be educated in the faith you are doing just that - raising them Catholic. The OP wants the Baptism and then nothing else.
 
Why not just lie to the grandparents and say you had them baptized privately? Better to lie to the grandparents than to lie to God.
 
A couple of things to consider:
1- You can't just walk into a Catholic church one Sunday, present your child to the priest and have him/her baptized. You & your husband will be expected to attend "preparation" classes.
2- Think about how you will respond to your child's questions about religion later in life. When they realize that some of their friends attend church, they will ask why they don't attend or what church they belong to. If you choose to baptize to make your father happy, you will to explain this to your child. What lessons do you want to teach your child. Life becomes more complex for your family as your children grow. There are so many more outside influences.
 
Edited to add: Re: the baptism ceremony. It was the first time I ever saw a Catholic baptism. It was like something straight out of "Rosemary's Baby". Still gives me the creeps. It took every effort for me not to chase the priest down and take my baby back when he was walking up and down the aisles with her raised above his head. Freakish! I don't know if every baptism is like that but HOLY COW!! Sorry to all you Catholics, but it was very foreign to me and I was raised Lutheran!

My brothers and I were baptized at home. It was just us (well, when I was baptized, there were no brothers), the godparents and the Catholic priest. It was very intimate. The baptisms I attended in church didn't involve all that. It's always the parents or godparents who hold the child.

I see this as different from the OP. When you Baptize your kid(s) you are making a commitment to raise them Catholic. Since they will get the other sacraments and will be educated in the faith you are doing just that - raising them Catholic. The OP wants the Baptism and then nothing else.

Well, I would raise them catholic in the sense they would go to Catholic school (basically because they provide better eductaion), but I'm not taking them every Sunday to church since I'm not going myself. Also, no prayers at home, ...
So they will be raised half-catholic, I guess...

If I will ever have children of course :)
 
Definitely not. You should not make a promise to raise a child in a faith if you know you are not going to do so. It would not only be a lie, it would be disrespectful to that religion.
 
Edited to add: Re: the baptism ceremony. It was the first time I ever saw a Catholic baptism. It was like something straight out of "Rosemary's Baby". Still gives me the creeps. It took every effort for me not to chase the priest down and take my baby back when he was walking up and down the aisles with her raised above his head. Freakish! I don't know if every baptism is like that but HOLY COW!! Sorry to all you Catholics, but it was very foreign to me and I was raised Lutheran!

Funny! The only time I saw this happen was at a Luthern baptism and I am Catholic! :goodvibes
 
I would and I have (though NOT Catholic!) I am an Atheist, that is my choice. My family are all church going type people. It meant a lot to my mom to have my daughter baptized and to me it didn't matter one way or another so I said, sure no problem. If my daughter grows up and wants to believe in that stuff then she is one step ahead of the game. She does attend church form time to time with grandma too which makes grams very happy.
 
we had kind of a unique situation with the grandparents. my mother though not practicing for decades was raised in the catholic church and holds on to their beliefs. so she has this big issue with infants needed to be baptised (original sin, limbo...). my in-laws (and dh though he's non practicing) are seventh day adventists who believe in adult only baptisms (their church believes that baptism is an acceptance/aknowledgement of faith, repentance of sin and a committment to lead a christian life-something a child does not have the maturity or knowledge base to agree to-since they do not believe you go directly to heaven/hell/limbo after death, even non baptised adults have no spiritual ramifications of foregoing baptism if they've accepted christ). i had the additional 'issue' of being baptised catholic but never being realy raised in the church-but always carrying the 'you were baptised catholic so you're catholic' denotation with me (if you're baptised catholic and go on to other christian churches it can-at least was for me- be a odd situation).

so one grandmother is worried the kids will suffer spiritual problems sans infant baptism, the others are of the mindset that it's inappropriate to make that decision on behalf of another person.

we knew we wanted to raise are children as christians, knew they would go to christian schools, but also knew they might go to sda schools. i also had that nagging catholic issue personaly about infant baptisms.

we opted to do a dedication service at a local lutheran church wherein we committed to instruct our children about christ. we did not select specific godparents (worked it out with the pastor ahead of time)-but made a speech about how we chose to raise our children with a full compliment of family and friends who we hoped would share their personal beliefs (and non beliefs) such that our children could learn, grow and make their own choices in the manner of worship and acceptance when they were ready to.

for us it served our needs, as well as those of the grandparents.

if we had been non christians it would have been no ceremony at all. neither dh nor i could have made a public statement to do something that we had no intention of doing (education or raising a child in a faith we did not believe in).


just as an aside-re. catholics being able to baptise anyone-in highschool a friend who was raised but was not a particularly devout catholic found out another friend had never been baptised (but did accept christ), so he offered to baptise her at lunch ('just in case something happens before you get around to it':rolleyes: ). uses his best alter boy latin, sprinkles water on her...the 'baptisee' is o.k. with it but keeps asking 'are you sure this is o.k.-i thought only priests could do this, are you sure this won't cause any problems?'. she is assured it's o.k. 'don't worry-what could happen?'.

that night the pope keels over and dies.:eek:

next day at school, the baptiser is ashen-and the baptisee is trying to research out weather she will carry some kind of spritual scarlet letter for participating in what she perceives as obviously an unsanctioned and clearly 'not good' baptism:rotfl2: over 20 years later and she still contends that it was a 'sign from god' that the catholic church was 'not for her'.
 
Well, I would raise them catholic in the sense they would go to Catholic school (basically because they provide better eductaion),

Please, if and when you do have children, check out the schools in your area personally. Most of the catholic schools in my area are horrible.
 
I'm a non practicing Anglican, and I had all 3 of mine baptised. Yes it felt weird to make the vows, and I would rather not have, but it was more important to me at the time to continue family tradition and allow my Dad to "save face" with his church. He didn't ask me to do this, but he's a Church Warden and has a close relationship with the priests, and I think it would have been awkward for his grandchildren to not even be baptised! (it's a big thing here - we're a strongly Christian country). The school they go to is private - we chose it because of its strong, flexible academic and social programs. It happens to be Anglican-based as well, so the kids do learn about God, Jesus and various Christian principles. Today they walked to a nearby church for Ash Wednesday services (they do regular assembly with prayers at the school, and special occasions at the church). There's a chance they will want to practice the Anglican faith, given the background they are getting at school, so I didn't want to put them at a disadvantage when it came to confirmation or marriage. I also allow my Dad to take any of my kids to church if he wants to - and I think he will more and more as they get older.

I understand what people are saying about lying to God - but the kids are at a Christian school, and they will learn about the faith from my Dad, so I didn't really lie about raising them in the Christian faith. I just won't be doing it myself - I'll be letting others teach it to my kids. I think of it like sub-contracting! ;)
 
My brothers and I were baptized at home. It was just us (well, when I was baptized, there were no brothers), the godparents and the Catholic priest. It was very intimate. The baptisms I attended in church didn't involve all that. It's always the parents or godparents who hold the child.

Same here, and this is also what we would do for DD. I wasn't planning on walking into a random Catholic church and having DD baptized. I should have elaborated. I would wait until we were visiting my parents and have a close family friend (who is also the priest who baptized me) baptize her. He did it on our house, and there is no reason that he couldn't do DD's Christening in my parents' house as far as I can tell.
 
I'm sure I'm opening a big can of worms by even asking this, but would you baptize your child to make the grandparents happy? My dad just asked me if we're going to baptize DD (who is a toddler). I was caught a little off guard, and I told him that I hadn't thought about it. Honestly, it's not something that ever crossed my mind. We're completely non-religious, although I woudn't say that I'm an athiest (DH is another story on that I think).

We were both raised Catholic and we both stopped practicing as soon as we went to college. I think it would please my dad to see my DD baptized Catholic. Part of me thinks "what's the harm?," but another part of me thinks that I'd be a total hypocrite if I baptized her knowing full well that #1) this isn't something we even believe in and #2) that we have no intention of raising her in a religion.

My parents are loving grandparents, and they are very good to my DD. I personally don't see the harm in baptizing her if it makes my dad feel better. My DH could care less either way, so if I want to do this I doubt he'd even say anything about it. The things that worry me are the hypocrite factor and also the inevitable "are you going to enroll DD in CCD and have her make the sacriments" question in the future (from my dad). I guess I would cross that bridge when I came to it, though. OK, enough rambling. I should throw in a popcorn:: on my own thread I'm sure:rotfl:


Baptism is when you make a commitment to raise your child in the ways and teachings of a church - at least that's what I understand it to be. That's when you state, at least in my church, in front of the whole church that you will raise your child to know God. The church also makes their vow to help your child to know God. Why on earth would you make a commitment that you have absolutely no intentions of keeping???:rolleyes:
 
Same here, and this is also what we would do for DD. I wasn't planning on walking into a random Catholic church and having DD baptized. I should have elaborated. I would wait until we were visiting my parents and have a close family friend (who is also the priest who baptized me) baptize her. He did it on our house, and there is no reason that he couldn't do DD's Christening in my parents' house as far as I can tell.

We did private baptisms too. My first two were done by the priest that married us, in a quaint little church by the sea. We did it on a Sunday morning after the regular services were over. We gave a generous donation to the church each time to thank them for their time (the sexton especially, as he had to lay out the hymn and prayer books etc.) - the church didn't actually charge a fee. The priest is a friend of Dad's, so I thanked him with a personal gift basket, as he didn't charge us for his time. My third child was baptized in a private ceremony at a different church with 2 other kids - it was Christmas of 2003, and 2 of my close friends were home for the holidays with their babies, and they wanted to have them Christened here where the rest of their family were. So we organized a joint private ceremony.
 
Baptism is when you make a commitment to raise your child in the ways and teachings of a church - at least that's what I understand it to be. That's when you state, at least in my church, in front of the whole church that you will raise your child to know God. The church also makes their vow to help your child to know God. Why on earth would you make a commitment that you have absolutely no intentions of keeping???

What if the Grandparents said that as much as they could, they would make that commitment, in front of their church? Would the baptism then "stick"? I've always wondered this as my In-laws are hard core born again Christians, and my wife and I, well, we aren't. We always joke that when they take my daughter to church (once or twice a year to meet their church friends), they secretly have her baptised without us knowing. I really can't imagine someone doing that...it would be so disrespectful.
 
What if the Grandparents said that as much as they could, they would make that commitment, in front of their church? Would the baptism then "stick"? I've always wondered this as my In-laws are hard core born again Christians, and my wife and I, well, we aren't. We always joke that when they take my daughter to church (once or twice a year to meet their church friends), they secretly have her baptised without us knowing. I really can't imagine someone doing that...it would be so disrespectful.


If you're a non-believer, does it matter if it "sticks" or not? Does it matter if someone else baptizes your child?

The reason I put my father's wishes above mine were that the stakes are higher for him (and my kids, if he's right). i.e. what if his faith is "the truth"? Isn't it better then that he had the chance to teach my kids about God? Isn't it better that they were baptized and he took them to Church sometimes? I'm not going to hedge my own bets - I don't feel his faith enough to do so and mean it. But, as I said in an previous post, I still made the commitment to God on behalf of my kids in Church on Baptism day, because I knew they'd be taught the Christian faith by someone else, and to me that was good enough. I didn't think that I needed to do it personally, as long as it was done. I don't see the harm in allowing someone else to baptize a child - there's no disadvantage for that child in being baptized, whereas the stakes are much higher for an un-baptized child if in fact all that Bible stuff turns out to be true!

Just musing here! ;)

ETA: I do think that one should show enough respect to the kid's parents to ask first, though!
 



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