Would something like this make you mad enough to sell your DVC contract?

[Maistre Gracey]

Please keep the politics out of this thread. I have no desire to talk poiltics on a DVC board.

The original poster was wondering if this would make anyone mad enough to sell their DVC, not weather you like or dislike the President.

 

[Chadm]

I'll attempt to stay out of the politics of this argument and stick to the topic. My opinion is "no" I will not sell my DVC contract(s) because of this issue. Mostly because I enjoy the benefits of DVC too much and selling my interests would not make any diifference in this cause whatsoever.

However, I will say this, and I'll try to keep it short. I am totally against Disney's backing of any projects by Michael Moore (or anyone else that uses his methods to make headlines) and I would certainly voice that opinion to any one who cares to listen. The reason is not political, even though I do not share Moore's political beliefs. The reason is because Moore's work is is non-factual, and in some cases, outright fabrications disguised as documentaries. Moore's films intentionally skew the truth and artificially dramatize these tragic events to make a political point and for financial gain. If Moore would show both sides of these stories or even tell his view of the events in a truthful way, they would be very valuable indeed. Sadly, that's not the case.

 

[randy55]

Yes, I would consider selling. If political propaganda is a direction that Disney wants to go in, then I do not need to be helping finance that endeavor.

Disney needs to focus on Family and Fun, they do not need to be in politics, there are plenty of other outlets for that.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by Mooobooks
Here's a copy of my post in the other discussion:
While it doesn't seem to be the popular view on this thread, there are, in fact, millions of people in the United States who think George W. Bush is an arrogant idiot, who took control of the country in a virtual coup with the help of supreme court justices put in place by his father and other republicans, and is responsible for pushing a bogus war for his own ends, and ruining the economy of the country while continuing to enrich the wealthy and big business at the expense of just about everyone else.

I think there are millions of us who would be proud of a media company that bankrolled Michael Moore's view of Dub-Ya. You know he's a real dummy when the dummy of him in Hall of the Presidents is more lifelike than the real thing.

 

[Chadm]

Originally posted by Mooobooks
I think there are millions of us who would be proud of a media company that bankrolled Michael Moore's view of Dub-Ya.

If thinly veiled lies and agenda pushing deceptions that are disguised as documentaries make you proud, then you and Michael Moore are made for each other.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Originally posted by Mooobooks
Here's a copy of my post in the other discussion:
While it doesn't seem to be the popular view on this thread, there are, in fact, millions of people in the United States who think George W. Bush is an arrogant idiot, who took control of the country in a virtual coup with the help of supreme court justices put in place by his father and other republicans, and is responsible for pushing a bogus war for his own ends, and ruining the economy of the country while continuing to enrich the wealthy and big business at the expense of just about everyone else.

I think there are millions of us who would be proud of a media company that bankrolled Michael Moore's view of Dub-Ya. You know he's a real dummy when the dummy of him in Hall of the Presidents is more lifelike than the real thing.

I certainly don't feel that way. While I respect people's right to thier own opinion, I have absolutely no respect for the opinion expressed above and the manner it is presented. To me it seems silly, illogical, spiteful, and ill-informed partisain rhetoric and spin.

There are also millions of satan worshipers, and criminals in our prisons. Sheer numbers doesn't indicate validity. While not the same as a political view, I don't respect them either, and don't advocate a movie pandering to them.

I also respect somone who feels strongly enough to make a stance to the point of selling thier DVC points and let that determine where they spend their money. That's all a part of free speach, we all have a right to determine what we buy. But, I personally wouldn't let Michael Moore's future film failure have that much influence over me and my family's vacation.

My approach would be one of a letter writing campaign (I'm not encouraging one here) to communicate my frustration to the appropriate entities, which is certainly not the strength of conviction that others are expressing. My hats off to them.

 

[Disney50]

It is rather fitting that they delegated this story to the "Gossip Scoop" page of MSNBC. And I did not seem to be able to find the part that wrote about President Bush "throwing a hissy" over this piece of propaganda. as I remember it was Michael Moore that threw the "Hissy" at the Oscars.

 

[RobDoc]

It's a real STRETCHHHHHHHH for this to be on the DVC Board at all. Answers to the direct question asked are possibly appropriate, but any debate about the possible Miramax/Michael Moore association are already being discussed in an existing <a href="http://disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=371416">thread on the Debate Board</a> and any further comment in that regard will be welcome only in that forum.

Thanks. Please choose your replies wisely!

 

[Caskbill]

In keeping with the original post, No, I wouldn't sell. Things like this will come and go over time, and I will not let it spoil my remaining 39 years of DVC. If I allowed it to make that kind of change in my lifestyle, give up something I enjoy and my family enjoys, simply because of some idiotic actions of others, it would be akin to letting the terrorists win.

That is not to say I could care less. there are other choices/actions available. Those things can be discussed on the debate board.

 

[Granny]

As we all know, Disney is part of a huge conglomerate. And various subsidiaries and fellow companies in that group will certainly do things that I find offensive.

When I'm on the beach overlooking Bay Lake with an adult beverage in hand, I'm not thinking that I'm subsidizing, agreeing with, or validating all the views expressed by Disney management.

I'm thinking that I'm on vacation with my family. And Disney does a great job of providing a quality vacation.

So no, I wouldn't sell.

 

[vernon]

To the original question would this particular point make me sell DVC? No, doesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't like Michael Moore but to avoid his movies is sufficient "protest", if enough people do the same we won't hear from him.

Is there an issue that I would feel strongly enough to consider selling? Unless it directly related to the running and operation of DVC , I doubt it.
1) It's unlikely that DVC would realise I was making a protest
2) If they did realise I was protesting and I "resell", it doesn't hit Disney's bottom line.
3) As has been pointed out, Disney is a multi-facetted corporation. In the unlikely event that DVC felt the pinch it's unlikely that even something as close as the Themepark,hotel or transportation departments of Disney would alter a policy they felt increased their profitability to "pander" to DVC, I think it's unthinkable that something as far away as Film production or distribution would alter a policy for a far away sibling department.

It's all very well to be principled, but if your "protest" has no effect, you're cutting you nose off to spite your face. There are better and more effective ways to protest, IMHO

 

[gmboy95]

Not only does it NOT make me mad...it makes me want to buy more....in fact to show my support, I think i will go see the movie while i am at Disney....I figure in such a time when differing opinions are met with viscous contempt (read: Dixie Chicks)...I think it is a cause for celebration when someone does not choose to fall in lock step behind the leadership of this country.....God Bless The USA, and I DONT like my president....wow!! there is a revolutionary thought. Hopefully some will see this before I get tossed!!

 

[TIdoublegaER]

Well, before this thread gets locked, I'll just say my answer is an unequivical NO. While Miramax may be a subsidiary of Disney, it is too far removed from the Theme Park division for me to be concerned about this - especially considering all of the parties involved. I think protesting in front of a movie theater and refusing to buy a tix to the film would be the best way to get someone's attention in this situation. I'm not going to stop watching ABC, sell my DVC or stop buying Disney merchandise over one film that most will never see.

 

[Snowgod]

Sell your points if you cannot tolerate the right to an opinion. What a concept. Who are you going to hurt by this idea other than yourself.

 

[westjones]

If I didn't want to sell my points after seeing BCV host a "VIP" party for Ann Coulter while I was there, I hardly think this would prompt me to do so. .
DJ

 

[MikeScott8]

well after reading through many posts on this topic I will reply.

I agree that selling DVC in protest of this is so far removed from the actual thing that it will not be recognized as a sign of protest.

I would not sell my DVC for this as I believe everybody has thier point of view and RIGHT to express it. I can not comment as to Michael Moore's movies as I have not seen them. Some people say he skews the truth but then again others say Rush Limbaugh skews the truth for his gain as well. But that is getting off this topic and onto politics.

So if a person wants to sell thier DVC, and let Disney know that they are selling because they dislike a movie one of thier owned studios is making, that is thier choice and I admire them for doing so. It is good to see people willing to stand for something, no matter what they stand for.

Mike

 

[briersue]

Personally,I love this country,WDW,and the time I get to share with my family while using DVC.I also like Michael Moore for the simple reason that his films do get people talking about real issues.I believe he does change facts and he is certainly not unbiased but I think he does this for a reason.He likes to take on the role of "underdog" .That said,no I would not sell my membership over this issue or any other.I belong to the CWA union which does not support anything Disney and it has not stopped me from 15 plus trips to WDW.Remember, its a "VACATION CLUB" not a political party.

 

[DVCPAT]

I would not protest Disney by selling my DVC contracts. DVC cashed my checks years ago so I dont think they would care. Michael Moore earns a good living complaining, some people enjoy listening.

 

[DaveH]

No.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I could have swore this thread was closed, then deleted.

I Guess that means it time for a vacation!