Won't give us a dining plan because one family member does not eat

[livndisney]

If the person is not paying per the rules for the dining plan and eating off another's plate........the item is the food and service is the plan/ table service.

It is semantics and it is cheating and stealing..............just saying it not doesn't change a thing.

AKK

You have completely lost me.......

You accused me of "semantics", but it sounds like you are saying the same thing I said.

I pointed out that the idea the pp had (sharing food with those not on the dining plan) was "cheating". The pp then came back and said "Cheating and stealing is not in our textbook but a CM should not post a way to get around Disney rules. ".

The pp is in fact the one advocating "cheating".

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

You have completely lost me.......

You accused me of "semantics", but it sounds like you are saying the same thing I said.

I pointed out that the idea the pp had (sharing food with those not on the dining plan) was "cheating". The pp then came back and said "Cheating and stealing is not in our textbook but a CM should not post a way to get around Disney rules. ".

The pp is in fact the one advocating "cheating".

I was not fully clear..my point was that eat of another's plate without paying is BOTH cheating the system and stealing food and a service.

I meant no personal affront to you.............just my opinion. Sorry if it seemed we were disagreeing.

AKK

AKK

 

[stitchlovestink]

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Originally Posted by Kaspar Houser


For buffets maybe but most restaurants will not blink if you do this. I think this is a very bad advise and I'm sure many will use this idea.

Ok but there are reports on the restaurant boards of people not being permitted to split meals especially when some are on dining plan and some are not. And this is not the first time this idea of adding someone to a reservation last minute has been floated on the boards. If Disney thinks it is a problem or they are losing money because of it they will put an end to it like they did with dvc members being able to have the dining plan for only part of their stay. People abused it, it went away.

Not true...
I've seen it suggested before to add someone to the reservation at checkin. Actually it's been suggested many times for all different types of situations to make people's ressies 'legal'.


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[livndisney]

I was not fully clear..my point was that eat of another's plate without paying is BOTH cheating the system and stealing food and a service.

I meant no personal affront to you.............just my opinion. Sorry if it seemed we were disagreeing.

AKK

AKK

No worries. It is always nice to see someone agree on the DIS

 

[VAN]

Am I missing something? You are talking about going at a time when there is no free dining. If only two of the three of you will actually eat, why are you so set on purchasing the (not very cheap) dining plan?

Just pay OOP. Or if you like to prepay, purchase a Disney gift card with the money pre-loaded. Or just charge the OOP cost to your room and pay with your credit card upon check-out.

Even when getting the regular dining plan for free, I don't see it as that much of a bargain because:

We don't eat that much
You have to have table service reservations well in advance of your trip (where will you be at a certain time and will you be hungry?)
You still have to pay gratuity (based on a $25+entre and $6+ dessert) and then for adult beverages/appetizers

Also, with a special needs child ... you may have a reservation but then for medical reasons (kid gets over-stimulated/tired) you have to go back to your room and then miss out on your dinner reservation.

Unless you are on the QS plan, you have a lot of pre-planning to do which takes a lot of the flexibility out of your trip. You can still get ADR's even if paying OOP ... if you miss out on a few TS meals because you don't feel like eating, your group is too tired, etc ... then you don't have to try to use the credits elsewhere.

Again, maybe I'm missing something - but with the poster's circumstances why would you even want to buy a dining plan??

 

[crashbb]

Has anyone compared the WDW package pricing during FD to see if the cost of "free" dining is built into the price?

Absolutely. You have to pay rack rate to get the free plan. Depending on the resort (and the discount you can get) and the number of people in your group (and their ages), it can be cheaper to get the room package and pay for the plan. This is assuming, of course, that the plan itself is a good idea for you in the first place.

 

[Kaspar Houser]

You have completely lost me.......

You accused me of "semantics", but it sounds like you are saying the same thing I said.

I pointed out that the idea the pp had (sharing food with those not on the dining plan) was "cheating". The pp then came back and said "Cheating and stealing is not in our textbook but a CM should not post a way to get around Disney rules. ".

The pp is in fact the one advocating "cheating".

No I'm not but when a CM is advocating bending the rules this this is a problem.
You may not like it but CF is telling how to bent the rules and the fact that he or she is totally silent and not reacting on this subject shouts GUILTY.

 

[livndisney]

No I'm not but when a CM is advocating bending the rules this this is a problem.
You may not like it but CF is telling how to bent the rules and the fact that he or she is totally silent and not reacting on this subject shouts GUILTY.

Only to you.

You are the one breaking the rules. And you know it. You have posted how you get around the rules. The rules of the DDP are clearly spelled out. There is no sharing with those not on the plan. It does not say "it is ok to cheat as long as you over tip the waiter".

 

[clanmcculloch]

The title of this thread confuses me. In reality, the situation is that Disney won't allow OP to make up their own rules for the plan. OP is definitely allowed to purchase the plan under the terms of the plan. They don't actually "give" anybody the plan; it's part of a package purchase and people pay for it. I guess in that sense the title is true; they won't give them the plan but then again they won't give anybody the plan; they'll sell anybody the plan.

It doesn't actually work well for us to pay for it. We just don't. Disney would gladly sell us a plan but it's in their best interest and not ours so we make choices that are best for us. We pay OOP for our food. Easy peasy.

No I'm not but when a CM is advocating bending the rules this this is a problem.
You may not like it but CF is telling how to bent the rules and the fact that he or she is totally silent and not reacting on this subject shouts GUILTY.

CF explained how the rules work and what is allowed under Disney rules. Not once did he say that the person being added at checkin should share off anybody's plate. He very clearly (at least clear to everybody here except you) was speaking to somebody whose child will not eat a single bite by mouth (OP). What rule is he recommending bending or breaking? Disney allows exactly what he stated.

The only caviate would be that if OP needs DME then they'll want to add the person on to the reservation a couple days before the trip rather than at checkin. I think this can be done any time within 3 days of checkin and the person is eligible to use DME but no dining plan or ticket purchase would be possible.

Dining plan rules do clearly state that credits can be used only by people on the plan and meals can not be shared with those not on the plan. If somebody who CAN eat takes CF's advice then they would be responsible for paying OOP for any food. Nowhere did CF advise otherwise.

 

[ohsnapxitsamanda]

We must live in very different worlds. Mine is the one where waiters are way underpaid.

I used to work for a TS restaurant at Disney, and I can tell you that our servers would have NEVER allowed this, no matter how much they're tipped. At the end of their shift, their seating cards are compared with their tickets to make sure that the numbers match, and that the number of people who ordered full meals matches the number of people sitting at the table. If there are ANY discrepancies, it is noted, and the server will be questioned. Part of their job is to make sure no one is abusing the system, and if they don't do their job, they could lose it. I've seen it happen. And let me tell you, those servers make enough in tips that it doesn't matter what their hourly pay is. They do not want to lose that job.

 

[disney david]

No I'm not but when a CM is advocating bending the rules this this is a problem.
You may not like it but CF is telling how to bent the rules and the fact that he or she is totally silent and not reacting on this subject shouts GUILTY.

Sometimes it best to let things go mr cf stated something that not against Disney rules any one can be added at check in and they wouldn't get the dining plan. He said you have to pay out of pocket for that person meal so how that cheating the system it giving Disney more money. It not like he saying sneak in the person and cheat Disney out of the extra person fee for the room. Cf not guilty of anything so he dose not have to respond to anything if he dose not want to the is not disband court. He stated his opinion and getting grief for it so I don't blame him for not reacting to any of the comments he trying to be the bigger person.


If you call Disney right now and ask them what he said they will tell you that would be fine.

 

[Bitsmommy]

I have a child that is tube fed as well and was speaking with my travel agent regarding this same situation. She stated that she has assisted her clients in NOT having to pay for their tube fed child to have the dining plan. She stated that it did take a lot of work to get around, but it can be done. If you would like her information please message me. Again, according to myDisney Travel Expert, it is difficult to do, but can be taken care of. I haven't personally done it because he is only 2 and we won't have to start paying until next year.

 

[SueM in MN]

I am going to close this thread at this point because the question has been answered in several ways and because a poster is being argumentative.

To summarize:

Disney Dining plan may not make sense for everyone.
This is especially true for people who will not be eating or will not be eating that much. Since the Dining Plan is basically pre-paying for meals, it may be less expensive to not have the plan and just pay out of pocket.

Even when it is free, the package that includes it may not be the best value because the room will be full price, without any discounts.

Disney does require that every person on the reservation be on the Dining Plan in order to purchase the Dining Plan.
Some people with tube feedings have gotten around that requirement by adding a family member who does not eat to their room at check in. This is one of the ways Disney has suggested people in that situation could get around the requirement.
(And no one has suggested the person eat off the plates of those on the dining plan - this is the suggestion for someone who can't eat. If the person can eat, they can purchase their meals out of pocket. None of these things are cheating).

If a group/family does purchase the Dining Plan, there is no requirement regarding WHO eats the food in the group. If one member does not eat, other members of that group could use the credits.

So, finally, do the math!
Many people (my family included) have figured out that the Dining Plan does not make sense for us. We purchase Disney gift cards to use for our food budget.