Woman banned for bad tipping

Personally, I prefer counter service to table service. And despite their being tip jars on just about every counter, I practically never tip for counter service.

I do not tip at CS either. Not at Starbuck's or McAlister's or any of the other places that expect me to order at a counter, carry my food, seat myself, help myself to refills, bus my own table.
 
I think society as a whole has determined 18% gratuity to be appropriate. 20-25% is considered generous. However, I'm certainly not the spokesperson for the service industry. I'm just pointing out that in looking at it's tax policies, the IRS does not see tipping as voluntary. AFAIC, a far better way to deal with poor service is to complain to management and have the server reprimanded.



You are making a huge leap in logic here...What the IRS cares about is if the tips are reported to the IRS. Unless there is a law that says that I have to tip, it's voluntary. Obviously the IRS felt that tips were being underreported and made that law. The IRS is assuming that people tip on every sale. That doesn't mean that they see is as not voluntary.

Back to the original topic...yeah, there has to be more back story to this woman being kicked out! Not that I see it as wrong, any business has a right to "fire" a customer. Sometimes you just have to do it.
 
While complaining to management during your meal is good in theory, I prefer my meal sans spit, thank you very much. That's why I complain to management on the way out. ;)

I have worked at three separate restaurants, and never once have I seen or even heard a server say they spit in somebody's food. I'm sure it happens, but it's much more rare than people say. I am one that if there is an issue that needs to be corrected immediately, I will speak up. (Like when I found a strange purple item in my buffalo chips at Buffalo Wild Wings).

I know that Reader's Digest had that article of the 50 Things Servers won't tell you a couple of issues ago. I read that and was honestly pissed off. I never once saw any of that horrid behavior they talked about, and it gives us all a bad name. Most servers are honest, hard working people who take food safety and guest service seriously.
 

I do not tip at CS either. Not at Starbuck's or McAlister's or any of the other places that expect me to carry order at a counter, carry my food, seat myself, help myself to refills, bus my own table.

But it really depends on the place. Tip jars at certain places are different from those at others, some places I'll just throw in a dollar, other places I'll give the full 20%.

But fwiw, I still drop a dollar in at Starbucks. One dollar isn't going to kill me, especially after my $4 drink... if it is, I should really be re-thinking my going to Starbucks altogether.
 
It's customary at places with tip jars to tip 5-10%.

I have never heard this. I am a pretty good tipper, but I never tip at those places. It's just plain tacky to me to have the jar there. Maybe somebody who works at a place with a tip jar can enlighten me, but I would guess that tips are not figured into the wage they are paid by their restaurants since very few people do use the tip jar. I never see more than a buck or two in there.
 
I have worked at three separate restaurants, and never once have I seen or even heard a server say they spit in somebody's food. I'm sure it happens, but it's much more rare than people say. I am one that if there is an issue that needs to be corrected immediately, I will speak up. (Like when I found a strange purple item in my buffalo chips at Buffalo Wild Wings).

I know that Reader's Digest had that article of the 50 Things Servers won't tell you a couple of issues ago. I read that and was honestly pissed off. I never once saw any of that horrid behavior they talked about, and it gives us all a bad name. Most servers are honest, hard working people who take food safety and guest service seriously.

My cousin worked at a nationwide fast food mexican restaurant. They fired the whole night shift (he was not working the night it happened) but someone actually poo'ed in the beans. I know we had heard rumors after it happened, most dismissed it as gossip, until my cousin told me he was part of the fired night shift.
 
Personally, I prefer counter service to table service. And despite their being tip jars on just about every counter, I practically never tip for counter service.

I hear you. During high school I worked at a deli and an ice cream shop. I never thought to have a tip jar out. What's that all about?
 
My cousin worked at a nationwide fast food mexican restaurant. They fired the whole night shift (he was not working the night it happened) but someone actually poo'ed in the beans. I know we had heard rumors after it happened, most dismissed it as gossip, until my cousin told me he was part of the fired night shift.

But these cases are very rare, they are by no means the norm. You have bad apples in every industry. But the vast majority of people are decent people just trying to make an honest living. That is why cases like that are so sensational- because they are so (thankfully) rare.
 
I have never heard this. I am a pretty good tipper, but I never tip at those places. It's just plain tacky to me to have the jar there. Maybe somebody who works at a place with a tip jar can enlighten me, but I would guess that tips are not figured into the wage they are paid by their restaurants since very few people do use the tip jar. I never see more than a buck or two in there.

Sometimes I leave change in these places, and sometimes I don't. The strangest thing happened to me one time, though, and it really made me mad. In 2004, my son and I went into the ice cream shop in Celebration (don't remember the name) one night. There appeared to be about 3 teenage girls working there and no adults. They were kind of rude and acted put out that they had to wait on me, I guess because it was about 30 minutes before closing. Our total was around $4.50, and I handed her a five dollar bill. She put my five in the register, got out the change and instead of putting the change in my hand that I had extended, she just dropped it in the tip jar! :scared1: I guess I looked kind of shocked because she said in a snotty tone, "Oh, did you want that?" I should have said something to her, I guess, but I was at a loss that someone would actually do that. I think I just turned around and left without saying anything.
 
Dictionary states:


gra·tu·i·ty /grəˈtuɪti, -ˈtyu-/ Show Spelled[gruh-too-i-tee, -tyoo-]

1. a gift of money, over and above payment due for service, as to a waiter or bellhop; tip.

2. something given without claim or demand

This how I have always looked at tips. If the service is good they get a tip, if it's bad they get nothing. Why should I reward for bad service?
 
Even though they are rare, it does happen. It's a toss-up on whether or not you get the understanding server or the I'll-show-them server. There's no way to tell one way or another. I totally understand complaining when I leave instead of while I am there.
 
I never tip in the tip jar. Those workers are not making the $2 an hour that table service workers are making.
 
I dont tip in the tip jar either. I dont tip housekeeping either, but thats another thread, aint it?;)
 
Hogfan, oh my. You have started something now!!!! I hope you have your extra heavy duty flame resistant suit handy.
 
I never tip in the tip jar. Those workers are not making the $2 an hour that table service workers are making.

Lol, in many states servers are paid at least minimun wage, i.e. not $2, so you wouldn't tip them either?

I couldn't imagine spending $100 on a meal and not giving a tip because the person makes more than $2 an hour.

Furthermore, I would NEVER leave $0 tip at a pizza place simply because they have a tip jar... unless no one tips at pizza places. My local pizza place (of which I have worked when I was younger) receives tips and they get tipped a lot. When I was working there, the average was about 17%.... I assume it's close to that now.

But again, it brings me back to saying, it's depends. To say a blanket statement of never tipping a tip jar is silly as there are places which the tip is deserved, tip jar or not.
 
If they bring the pizza to me..yes for a tip.
If its buffet and they just bring me a drink..maybe $1
If its buffet and I get my own drink, NO WAY
 
If they bring the pizza to me..yes for a tip.
If its buffet and they just bring me a drink..maybe $1
If its buffet and I get my own drink, NO WAY

Bingo! CiCi's gets no tip. They don't do anything but ring up my total and clear the table of plates. Pizza Hut gets tipped because they seat me, bring me drinks/refills, take my order, bring my food, bus my table, etc.

I don't tip housekeepers either, unless one of my children has a bed accident and we need an extra cleaning due to it.
 
My cousin worked at a nationwide fast food mexican restaurant. They fired the whole night shift (he was not working the night it happened) but someone actually poo'ed in the beans. I know we had heard rumors after it happened, most dismissed it as gossip, until my cousin told me he was part of the fired night shift.

That was like that one pizza joint where some of the employees were busted playing with the food (thusly ruining everything used to make pizzas and sandwiches) and then posting the vid on youtube. They were also facing criminal charges (I don't recall the actual charges) after being fired. The restaurant had to clean up and toss out all that ruined food and then get inspected by the local health department before reopening.

I make sure I have enough money for a good tip. Whether the server gets it or not depends on their service. And some places it's hard for them to know I DO tip (the local chinese place as one pays at the cash register and I put it on my card when I pay my tab).
 
My cousin worked at a nationwide fast food mexican restaurant. They fired the whole night shift (he was not working the night it happened) but someone actually poo'ed in the beans. I know we had heard rumors after it happened, most dismissed it as gossip, until my cousin told me he was part of the fired night shift.

I really wish I hadn't read this and I pray it isn't true. :eek: This has got to be the most disgusting thing I have ever read. How did the management find out about it? Did a customer bring their burrito back and say it tasted like crap? :laughing:
 











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