Woman banned for bad tipping

[Planogirl]

If even the Chef wants her gone there's more going on here than just bad tipping. I bet that this woman is a pain.

 

[happygirl]

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/woman-banned-being-bad-tipper-kanpai-restaurant

A woman in NC told that she was not allowed to eat at this restaurant unless she paid an 18% tip. They are saying that she did not tip adequately in the past and that they have to do this.



I know that a restaurant has the right to refuse service to whomever they choose and that you often see the notation on the menu that parties of 6 or more are assessed an automatic 18% tip, but I was always under the impression that tipping was optional?

Do they do this with every customer that they feel doesn't tip to their standards? If they are really so worried about the money that their waitresses are making then maybe they need to pay them more. Maybe the
service she received wasn't worth an 18% tip and was a direct reflection on the service she received?

There is never a reason not to tip. What was the lady who used to post about her demands for servers. I think it was spring or something I wonder if this could have been her

 

[handinpocket]

There is never a reason not to tip. What was the lady who used to post about her demands for servers. I think it was spring or something I wonder if this could have been her

Bull. I have had some stinker servers in my years. Not many, but some. The good far outweigh the bad and I can count on one hand how many times I have left no tip in 20 years.....but sometimes it IS warranted (or that penny thing).

 

[DaisyLynn]

I've done that too. The last time I did it was when I didn't get some of my food, toast with my breakfast. And I asked for it around five times. I couldn't eat some of the food, I'm allergic to egg whites and dip the yolk so a huge portion of my breakfast was useless without the toast, basically I paid like $8 for three slices of bacon.

Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread -- but I am also allergic to only egg whites. Lot's of people think it's weird - so it's neat to find another "odd-ball" like me!

 

[Tigger2252]

My grandfather used to just tip a couple of bucks, regardless of how much the tab was. He was never rude, or demanding or bossy. It was just the era he was from. He seriously thought it was a good tip. I would always slip some onto the table or directly to the waitress when he was out of sight. I didn't want to insult him and I always felt bad for the waitresses getting such a small tip.

I'm sure thought that this is not the case with this woman.

My dad did the same thing! He went to the local diner almost every day for coffee, eggs and toast. The first time I went to breakfast with him I noticed that he only left a couple of dollars for the tip. I know he thought that was a good tip. I did the same thing as you. After he walked away from the table I added to the tip. They all loved him at the diner, but I was horrified that he left the girls such a small tip. I agree with you, I think it was the era they grew up in.

 

[DebbieB]

My grandfather used to just tip a couple of bucks, regardless of how much the tab was. He was never rude, or demanding or bossy. It was just the era he was from. He seriously thought it was a good tip. I would always slip some onto the table or directly to the waitress when he was out of sight. I didn't want to insult him and I always felt bad for the waitresses getting such a small tip.

I'm sure thought that this is not the case with this woman.

I had an aunt like that also. She would have dinner, also order a takeout for her grown son to take home and leave $1! She just thought you left $1 no matter what. She used to go out with my mom and her other sisters and one time my mom came home and said to me that something strange happened with the waiter they always have. She said he asked if they were happy with his service. I said how much do you tip him? She said $1 each. Well that's why! You are undertipping him! They were just clueless, not intentionally rude.

 

[Squirlz]

I wonder if that customer might be an infamous poster here?

 

[SOnotLayuh]

I think every person should be required to wait tables for at least one week of their lives. One day isn't enough. Most people don't understand what the job is like until they've met the no-tip-after-church crowd, the spend-all-money-on-booze friday night crowd, the party-early thursday crowd, or the people who go out on Monday simply because they couldn't afford the weekend rush. It's a thankless, difficult job. I LOVED it, but most people came in expecting it to be a cake walk. It was, by far, the HARDEST job I've ever had.

 

[TheZue]

Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread -- but I am also allergic to only egg whites. Lot's of people think it's weird - so it's neat to find another "odd-ball" like me!

Ya I haven't met anyone else with it either. Generally it's just annoying, and I'm constantly finding things that I didn't know had eggs in them, in fact I found out Nanaimo bars have them on Wednesday LOL. Fortunately it's no where near life threatening, I went for allergy testing and they found it in my 20s...I just thought I got food poisoning a lot until I got it out of my diet.

 

[Ceila]

There is never a reason not to tip.

Wrong. Tips are not required, they are optional, and based on the level of service. I will always give the waitstaff the benefit of the doubt and the opportunity to correct mistakes. If they still don't perform at least an adequate level customer service, though, then there is a possibility that they will not receive a tip from me.

 

[zachnsamsmommy]

I think there must be more to this story than the tipping.

Surely she isn't the only poor tipper at the restaurant, yet she was banned. I think that perhaps the suggestion of some PPs that she was very difficult, and then left a poor or no tip might be it.

 

[Heidict]

My dad did the same thing! He went to the local diner almost every day for coffee, eggs and toast. The first time I went to breakfast with him I noticed that he only left a couple of dollars for the tip. I know he thought that was a good tip. I did the same thing as you. After he walked away from the table I added to the tip. They all loved him at the diner, but I was horrified that he left the girls such a small tip. I agree with you, I think it was the era they grew up in.

I had an aunt like that also. She would have dinner, also order a takeout for her grown son to take home and leave $1! She just thought you left $1 no matter what. She used to go out with my mom and her other sisters and one time my mom came home and said to me that something strange happened with the waiter they always have. She said he asked if they were happy with his service. I said how much do you tip him? She said $1 each. Well that's why! You are undertipping him! They were just clueless, not intentionally rude.

My grandmother used to go the the beauty parlor every Friday. She would get her hair washed and styled and occasionally cut. She didn't tip her anything. Just paid for the cost of it and that was it. I'm not positive why she did it, but if I remember right, she felt that since she went there every week and that since Toni was getting paid a wage that she just didn't need to tip.

 

[DaisyLynn]

My grandmother used to go the the beauty parlor every Friday. She would get her hair washed and styled and occasionally cut. She didn't tip her anything. Just paid for the cost of it and that was it. I'm not positive why she did it, but if I remember right, she felt that since she went there every week and that since Toni was getting paid a wage that she just didn't need to tip.

WAY back in my cosmetology days we used to have the same handful of "grammies" come in on Friday mornings for their wash and sets. Many would tip $.25 - $.50. This didn't bother us, because we all understood that it was their generation...and we were paid an hourly wage.

Regarding tipping in restaurants - I guess I'm lucky that I've never had service so poor that I felt my server did not earn a tip. And we go out to eat a lot (more than we should)! I also think that quality of service is subjective - so what might be acceptable server behavior to me could be unacceptable to another customer. I just don't think I pay that much attention.

When I worked retail (boy, I've had a lot of careers), we had to "fire" a customer because she was costing us money. Over 3+ years, she would buy, buy, buy and then turn around 2 weeks later and return, return, return - plus she'd find old stuff, catalog orders, etc. and return those as well. I would assume that there was more going on than just poor tips, like PP have said.

 

[clh2]

I waitressed one summer during college. At this place, every single Friday night "T" came in, and would never leave a tip. The man was very pleasant, he simply did not tip. The various servers alternated taking care of him.

This also reminds me of a different story. One Easter, my grandma (mom's mom) took the whole family out to eat. Historically, my grandma never understood the tipping process. My DH and I knew the bill was going to be huge...and we were concerned that grandma wasn't going to tip...so we tried to see if she did. We couldn't tell, so we asked the waitress if g-ma left a tip. The waitress's mouth about hit the ground, but she was very honest and said because our group was so large that the tip was included.

Now...my grandpa (dad's dad) would always ask someone to just let him know how much he needed to leave for a tip. As he would explain each time...he was retired and didn't do math. My two sisters and I were all waitresses at some point in college, so we took care of our servers, at G-pa's expense!

 

[DeniseinNS]

I'v been a waitress for a long time, it's hard work and let me tell you, there are some real cheapos out there. I totally understand not tipping or small tips for bad service, that's only fair. There are alot of people that think it's acceptable to tip $2-$4 on a $100 bill, and we have to tip out 2% of sales to the kitchen so there goes that tip.
This might sound bad but......We get alot of regular customers where I work so when I know that people are good tippers from having waited on them before I will go more above and beyond to chat with them, remember their names or orders,etc... then I will for the ones I know are consistenly cheap (they do still get good service) and have ended up getting alot of regular wonderful customers that ask for me every time.

 

[CaliforniaDreamin]

Goodness...Winston-Salem is getting the business on the Dis lately. First, they don't want teens in the Mall.....now this. What's next WS????

I didn't see the teens in the mall thread, but there definately was a problem with teens on the weekends. We quit going on Saturday nights because they were too rowdy.

 

[lacrosse_lady72]

I think every person should be required to wait tables for at least one week of their lives. One day isn't enough. Most people don't understand what the job is like until they've met the no-tip-after-church crowd, the spend-all-money-on-booze friday night crowd, the party-early thursday crowd, or the people who go out on Monday simply because they couldn't afford the weekend rush. It's a thankless, difficult job. I LOVED it, but most people came in expecting it to be a cake walk. It was, by far, the HARDEST job I've ever had.

I agree but I don't think a week is long enough. By the time you get the hang of it, you'd be done. I think a good time would be 8 weeks.

Funny enough, I love the people who tell me:
1. They want to wait when they retire because it seems like an easy job.
2. When someone asks me if they want to switch jobs for the day because my job must be easier.
3. Act or speak to me as if I am an idiot.

 

[FireDancer]

I do feel tipping is 100% at the discretion of the patron. No one should expect gratuity. At the same time, however, I also feel the restaurant has the right to refuse service as long as it isn't doing so for an illegal reason like race or religion.

I don't think it is a good idea since the bad press isn't worth it but it is neither the first nor last time a business will make a bad choice.

 

[MIGrandma]

This might sound bad but......We get alot of regular customers where I work so when I know that people are good tippers from having waited on them before I will go more above and beyond to chat with them, remember their names or orders,etc... then I will for the ones I know are consistenly cheap (they do still get good service) and have ended up getting alot of regular wonderful customers that ask for me every time.

I did the same thing when I waited tables. I never could understand how some of the regulars could come in 2-3 times a week, month after month, year after year and just never, ever tip any of us. We always groaned when they came in, and looked to see which one of us had the misfortune of waiting on them. Then there were other regulars that we fell all over each other trying to be the one that got the privilege of waiting on them. And I, too, would go above and beyond for the good tippers. Non-tippers got basic service, after I learned that they were non-tippers. If I had a table of good tippers, and a table of non-tippers, the good tippers were getting their drinks refilled first, and checked on more often, etc. And it was fun waiting on regulars who were good tippers. You chat with them, learn about them, you know what they like and don't like, it was a great experience all around. Non-tippers? Not so much. We just wanted to tell them stay home and cook their own food, or go to McDonalds.

I can't imagine that woman being banned from a restaurant for not tipping though, there has to be more to the story. She must have been an all around pain in the butt with the hostess and cooks as well, and not just the servers.

 

[TheZue]

I totally imagine her as one of those people that will regularly eat the majority of her meal, find something wrong with it, and refuse to pay. Or keep sending back food and demanding a new one. Combine that with no tipping and she's just costing that restaurant and everyone that works there money.