WISHES IS GONE (leaving in May)

I wonder if the change will affect HalloWishes and Holiday Wishes in any way? I hope not, but you never know with Disney. Hallow Happily Ever After?

According to a post earlier in this thread, someone asked on the Disney Blog and they responded and said that Hallowishes and Holiday wishes are remaining the same
 
I'd be more excited if Disney was doing it to provide a really great experience for the guests. Unfortunately this is just another cost cutting move that will depend less on fireworks and more on cheap projection elements. With all the really poor decisions coming from Disney management these days I have zero faith that this is a move in the right direction. The projection shows don't have anywhere near the wow factor that the fireworks have.

Pay more and get less is the current direction of the Disney parks experience. No evening parade and now a cheaper show at night. I wonder how they will manage to up-sell this. That's where the real focus lies.


~NM

Where are you getting that there will be less fireworks from?
 
I'd be more excited if Disney was doing it to provide a really great experience for the guests. Unfortunately this is just another cost cutting move that will depend less on fireworks and more on cheap projection elements. With all the really poor decisions coming from Disney management these days I have zero faith that this is a move in the right direction. The projection shows don't have anywhere near the wow factor that the fireworks have.

Pay more and get less is the current direction of the Disney parks experience. No evening parade and now a cheaper show at night. I wonder how they will manage to up-sell this. That's where the real focus lies.


~NM
Too early to tell IMO. It's hard to believe that they would remove an iconic show in a lot of visitors minds with something largely inferior. It probably would have been cheaper keeping Wishes while continuing to slowly decrease the number of fireworks involved
 
Haven't been on the boards much since my trip last June. I didn't even find out until today they got rid of the parade and now this Wishes announcement is like a double whammy in the same day :worried:. We've seen Wishes so many times that we started watching it from Fantasyland the past several years. It was nice becuase you didn't need to cram into the hub. Kind of feel like with much of the new show now hinging on projection, being in front of the castle will be necessary. Hub is going to be as packed as ever. On the other hand though, were going in early June again this year so there's lots of new things to look forward to with HEA, ROL, and Pandora :).
 

Well, I watched the little preview video, and I have to say it looks like it'll be great! THe music sounds good and the renders of some of the castle projections seem above and beyound what I have seen (I haven't seen OUAT yet). I'll always love Wishes, but I have high hopes for a new classic show to be born.
 
Where are you getting that there will be less fireworks from?

I'm just following the decreasing trend that we are seeing from the changes to the shows over the years.
Here is a link that talks about a smaller Fireworks show at Disneyland. http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/08/updat...ive-disneyland-forever-show-only-on-weekends/

A quote from that article:
“Fantasy in the Sky” is a much smaller scale show, typically used as a filler show when new shows are being developed for the park, so the change is assumed to be mostly budgetary in nature."

The current iteration of Star Wars: A Galactic Spectacular has fewer fireworks than it's predecessor Symphony in the Stars. If you follow the trend it's showing a decrease in the number of fireworks used.

It's no secret that the whole focus of the parks is on charging more and providing less. We are seeing it all over. Of course they are going to decrease the amount of fireworks in the show and depend on the projections. It's a cost cutting move that all facets of the park are required to perform. Fireworks are consumed each night and must be purchased again and again. A projection show does not have that problem.

Disney is going to wrap this downgrade up in a pretty bow and sell it hard... but the guests will see it an know that this replacement has way less of a bang for the buck. Projection shows just can't compete with fireworks.

Too early to tell IMO. It's hard to believe that they would remove an iconic show in a lot of visitors minds with something largely inferior. It probably would have been cheaper keeping Wishes while continuing to slowly decrease the number of fireworks involved

It was also hard to believe that they would remove the handles from the refillable mugs or charge over $700 to rent out a tarp tent in Tommorowland... or even end the nightly parade at MK with no replacement in sight... but they did it.

~NM
 
I'm excited to see what's next! It's time for a change. Wishes is nice, it's been around a looooong time.
 
I'm just following the decreasing trend that we are seeing from the changes to the shows over the years.
Here is a link that talks about a smaller Fireworks show at Disneyland. http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/08/updat...ive-disneyland-forever-show-only-on-weekends/

A quote from that article:
“Fantasy in the Sky” is a much smaller scale show, typically used as a filler show when new shows are being developed for the park, so the change is assumed to be mostly budgetary in nature."

Disneyland just brought back the Remember, Dreams Come True fireworks (the 50th anniversary show). It premiered last week with new projection effects.
 
I'm just following the decreasing trend that we are seeing from the changes to the shows over the years.
Here is a link that talks about a smaller Fireworks show at Disneyland. http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/08/updat...ive-disneyland-forever-show-only-on-weekends/




It was also hard to believe that they would remove the handles from the refillable mugs or charge over $700 to rent out a tarp tent in Tommorowland... or even end the nightly parade at MK with no replacement in sight... but they did it.

~NM
Comparing changes to a major MK attraction to refillable mugs is a bit of a stretch in my mind. While misguided the cabanas were an addition not a subtraction. Not sure I buy your comparisons
 
I told my DD16 last night about this and she was pretty upset. Her words "I know Disney can do projections but do they have to put it in everything now?"
Like I said before I'm ok with the change but I am almost 100% sure there will be less pyro, that doesn't mean it'll be a bad show. With a good story they can take things and make magic, I like the little 5 minute projections on the Tree of Life, super simple but they have a story and music so it's effective.
The new score, the little I heard from the video, reminds me a lot of Fantasmic!. so I will take that as good news and wait to watch the show
 
I guess I'm one of the few that thinks this new show will have the same amount, if not more fireworks. "Light up the sky like never before" to me doesn't correlate to less pyro
 
I'm so sad about losing Wishes. Wishes IS Disney to me. I cried when I found out. We were just there in December but trying to plan a quick weekend down there to see it one last time before it is gone. I'm excited for a new show, I just hope it gives me the same chills Wishes does.
 
I'm okay with this as long as the replacement is good, and it sounds like it should be.
 
I guess I'm one of the few that thinks this new show will have the same amount, if not more fireworks. "Light up the sky like never before" to me doesn't correlate to less pyro
So many take every change Disney does these days as negative. No change can possibly be positive, an improvement. It seems as though it's "cool" to "hate" on changes at Disney.
Thankfully, I'm not cool. Sure, they make mistakes. A bit too many these days. But not everything they do is to screw over the guest. Sometimes the complaints that it is their goal get old.
 
Where are you getting that there will be less fireworks from?
You should visit the thread in the News and Rumors section of the board. Rumors coming in that there will be less pyro from those with inside connections...but yes they are rumors.
 
Disneyland just brought back the Remember, Dreams Come True fireworks (the 50th anniversary show). It premiered last week with new projection effects.

Right. Fantasy in the Sky only ran for a couple of months to transition off of Disneyland Forever, which was only for the 60th Anniversary. Sometimes there are logistic reasons to these decisions, not just cost cutting measures. Watch the preview video for Once Upon a Time. It doesn't look like they are cutting back on it.
 
I'm so sad about losing Wishes. Wishes IS Disney to me. I cried when I found out. We were just there in December but trying to plan a quick weekend down there to see it one last time before it is gone. I'm excited for a new show, I just hope it gives me the same chills Wishes does.

This is how I felt about MK Welcome Show. It' was very special to me. At least with Wishes it looks like we're getting a suitable replacement. The new Welcome Show? Blah.
 
announced today that it will be replaced in May with "happily ever after". I'm so sad!! What does everyone else think?


I am completely ok with the replacement show as long as it is still spectacular. The concern I have is that it will be scaled back and this is a cost-cutting measure. I hope the wow-factor still exists.
 












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