WISH Team structure and organization (All team members please read)

[AmyBeth68]

Jim, the difference between Runner's World and Wish is they are a large stand-alone discussion forum like the Dis in general where you can easily find the sub-forums you might need...

Nutrution, Music, Rave Runs, triathlons, specific races, etc.

As a sub forum we only have individual threads which can get buried. So somebody might ask a great question about nutrition, which answers somebody else's question. But with weekly threads, team threads, etc it gets lost or buried within a week. The search function here on the dis doesn't always work as we all know. So I'm afraid that isn't the best solution. By sticky-ing certain areas of common interest it simply organizes the thread better for newbies. I really don't think we can compare ourselves to running only forums such as RW or DisneyRunning because their structure allows one to easily find the area of interest then search within that forum for answers. Not sure if that makes any sense but that's the logic behind organizing the threads better. Seems like a win-win to me. The SC is just a bunch of nice people who agreed to act as points of contact in figuring out how to best accomplish this.

 

[padisneyfan]

I guess I'm just a little confused and probably in the minority here.

I thought DIS was a place to talk to people with similar interests, like running. I come here to get info about Disney races, etc. A place of free flowing, exchange of information and ideas. Ask a question....get an answer.

Steering committees, mission statements....it all sounds like my job. Not fun.

But then that is just me.

I'm with you Jim. I appreciate that the committee is trying to organize the board better, but really I use this more as a social outlet to connect with people who have similiar interests. It is a much friendlier place than the community board but even here things have gotten testy in the past couple of months. I think our shirts are a bigger recruiter to get people to join than anything that we might do on this website. Every race I do people comment about the logo and how can they join.

Now slipping back into the shadows.

Nancy

 

[WDWFAN9]

I'm with you Jim. I appreciate that the committee is trying to organize the board better, but really I use this more as a social outlet to connect with people who have similiar interests. It is a much friendlier place than the community board but even here things have gotten testy in the past couple of months. I think our shirts are a bigger recruiter to get people to join than anything that we might do on this website. Every race I do people comment about the logo and how can they join.

Now slipping back into the shadows.

Nancy

Nancy and others, from my perspective all the SC is hoping to accomplish is to make it easier for people to connect with each other.

When I first started here there wasn't an Events/Competition sub-forum. Everything, the WW threads, Nutrisystem questions, monthly exercise challenges, and posts by the returning 2005 half participants were all on the same page. The threads about events started to overwhelm the main WISH board and that is how the sub-forum came into being. At that time we all knew where and what it was, no explanations were necessary. Now however it isn't always obvious or easy for newbies to know where to go/what to do. Threads fly, tons of people are posting on a whole lot of topics. Some people will feel comfortable enough to just jump in, others though might not.

Speaking for myself, it is my hope that streamlining the stickys and having a more formal welcome will make it easier for people to find what they need, and give them a starting point. This won't affect us regular WISHers at all, it will just make it simplier to navigate our space. The support and sense of community is something the SC wants to foster, not regulate!

That's all for now!

 

[ScoJo15]

Speaking for myself, it is my hope that streamlining the stickys and having a more formal welcome will make it easier for people to find what they need, and give them a starting point. This won't affect us regular WISHers at all, it will just make it simplier to navigate our space. The support and sense of community is something the SC wants to foster, not regulate!

That's all for now!

Well said!

 

[Big Vic]

Nancy and others, from my perspective all the SC is hoping to accomplish is to make it easier for people to connect with each other.

When I first started here there wasn't an Events/Competition sub-forum. Everything, the WW threads, Nutrisystem questions, monthly exercise challenges, and posts by the returning 2005 half participants were all on the same page. The threads about events started to overwhelm the main WISH board and that is how the sub-forum came into being. At that time we all knew where and what it was, no explanations were necessary. Now however it isn't always obvious or easy for newbies to know where to go/what to do. Threads fly, tons of people are posting on a whole lot of topics. Some people will feel comfortable enough to just jump in, others though might not.

Speaking for myself, it is my hope that streamlining the stickys and having a more formal welcome will make it easier for people to find what they need, and give them a starting point. This won't affect us regular WISHers at all, it will just make it simplier to navigate our space. The support and sense of community is something the SC wants to foster, not regulate!

That's all for now!

Exactly!

 

[aladdinsgirl]

I've pretty much stayed clear of this thread, I've been reading, but not posting.

I just want to say that I agree with Amy, Pat, Scott, Mel, and Vic; the point of the sticky's is not to regulate or control anyone, it's just a way to keep some topics from being lost. There are a lot people on this board who have a lot of experience and knowledge on running, walking, core building, nutrition, etc and I think it's wonderful that we are able to keep the questions and answers located in the same place so nothing gets lost.

As far as the pacing/volunteering threads, these threads come up every late fall for marathon weekend. So they are really nothing new. The only difference is if we do decide to make these permanent threads, then we will for sure have a group of people coordinating everyone instead of one or two people remembering to start the thread in December. When I say coordinating, I mean someone saying "Okay, here's the marathon course, here's the known difficult parts of course. Is there anyone willing to stand at mile 20 for 2 hours and cheer for people?" It would not be "Okay Kristi, you are going to be at mile 18 and Vic you are at mile 12 and Pat you are at mile 15 and that's the way it's going to be". Or "I'm going to volunteer at a water stop, anyone want to join?" And if everyone decided they wanted to be at mile 13, then that's where the group would be. If people decided they didn't want to cheer for the half or full, well that's okay too.

The pacing groups would be "who is anticipating running a 2:20 half, a 2:30 half or a 5:00 full, a 6:00 full?" Not "Krista, you are going to run a 12:00 mile for the half because Jen here needs a buddy to run with". I really, really hope that people do not think anyone in this group would even try to do that. I can tell you honestly, if anyone tried to tell me that I was going to stand at a certain mile for a certain amount of time or if they tried to say that I had to run a certain pace so someone would have buddy, I would not be here.

I love this group and I sincerely love the people in this group. They have been a huge support group for me for the past 3 years. And I'm a lucky one, I have the full support of my husband and my family on this, plus the Wish group. I would only imagine for those without family support, the Wish team would be invaluable. Trust me when I say that no one wants to make our team in a dictatorship, we're just trying to organize things a little better so the needs of all our members are met.



Krista

ETA--I think we are talking about 2 different pacing ideas. The pacing thread that I'm talking about is finding someone within your pace and run with them to complete the distance together. This is a thread that Colleen has started the past 2 years for marathon weekend. I am not talking about advocating for greater pacing requirements at WDW. If I have to be honest, that's not a top priority for me, so it's not something that I personally will be involved in. Not to say I disagree with it or anything, I'm just saying if someone else has a passion for it, then they need to be involved in that thread instead of me.

 

[deekaypee]

No time, no time to respond to everything. Shouldn't I be packing for this weekend or something? And who are these people who enjoy packing during taper???

Morgan: I have been known to say that everyone looks good in lime green. You're a girly girl, so I know you'll understand how the green works as a color corrector for my unbelievably red, running face. Then again, I've also been known to say that the lime green shirt is a great equalizer--it looks equally bad on everyone!!

Teri: for your list of interests. I'm a a long-time vegetarian and relatively new athlete who's trying to make more conscious choices in my nutrition/fueling. (See, I'm now referring to food as fuel. ) I think I remember you "outing" yourself as a vegetarian/vegan before, but it's so easy to forget people's areas of "expertise" in the weekly threads, etc. I look forward to bombarding you with questions as my training for the full commences--more than I'm sure you look forward to hearing them.

Kristi: I'm talking with DOOD and my ILs about volunteering while we're together this weekend. I'm definitely in and am giving everyone else the heads up in case they want to request a water table far, far away from my dancing-banana self.

My $0.02 + some extra for inflation. The numbers before some statements refer back to the initial topics posted

[....]

Advocacy for pacing - I agree it is a good idea as this is a large group that has an interest in such things. However I'd prefer if/when this takes place that it is done as an individual basis rather than "we are sending a letter to Disney on the entire WISH behalf." I think if a poll was posted you would not get a sufficient sample size to declare that this is the will of the group. I can also see lots of flame wars with people who may disagree on what someone is trying to do (this assuming the advocacy will not just be for pacing specifically, but maybe also for other issues with other race details). In this case I would prefer to see a post saying "For this race Disney is doing X, some of us feel they should consider changing it to Y, if you agree please consider writing to the RD at Z."

Shell, some good points. I'm not sure how much a contradiction there is/will be in the "mission statement" (not sure that's the right phrase for what might evolve, who knows?) and how we roll as a social group. I do happen to think what brings us here is an interest in Disney events, but that's not why we stay. I've made friends here--at least I consider you my friends, and hope some of you feel the same way about me--and I think some of the ideas we're throwing out (virtual races, regional meets, etc.) are ways of continuing our training with our WISHmates. To me, the Disney events are the cake (or ice cream) and everything else is the icing (or whipped cream and cherry). But I do think you're absolutely right that we want to word things carefully.

About the advocating for generous pacing requirements idea. I've already said it originated with me, based on what Dave has done informally on the boards in the past. The poor choice of wording--absolutely mine. Sorry to set anyone off with that. What can I say? I'm a product of my professional life, and sometimes that lingo sneaks its way into my everyday life.

What I had in mind when I threw out the pacing idea was that it might be something we wanted to look as a long-term goal. (I don't know if I was thinking 3, 5, 10 years, but it was long-term.) And how I envisioned it unfolding, if I envisioned it all, was something like I've seen in other internet communities, particularly with regards to saving televison shows. (Yep, still a couch potato in some ways.) An electronic petition that individual WISH racing team members could sign, along with information on the issue, contact addresses, etc. That would leave it up to the individual as to whether to support the petition.

You've wisely brought up some of the issues that might arise from this, things I didn't consider fully. So maybe that's not the way to go, maybe the idea just plain stinks. Still, I do think there's something to be said for keeping people into the loop about how events are organized and executed, about making issues be known, etc. For instance, if it wasn't for WISH I'd never have known about the running out of the January medals. And, to me, that's something I'm interested in contacting Disney about, just like the pacing. For others, it might be the elimination of the 6.5er at the ToT. Or a race's start time. And for others, maybe none of these are issues.

So maybe a really formal advocacy isn't the way to go--and that's not really what I had in mind anyway. I continue to think it's a good idea to encourage WISHers to contact Disney about the events, with both constructive criticism AND praise, on an individual basis. Maybe to have contact information for the Disney endurance events available, etc., and what you've suggested is golden. But how and even IF we should do it as a team ethos, that's up for grabs. So thanks for throwing that big fat tomato at my head and making me rethink things. Didn't hurt a bit.

 

[Creativebeth]

I have been reading this thread and not posting on purpose. I am sorry, but I totally agree with Nancy.

I like coming to the WISH boards as a social interaction. We are supportive, encouraging, and full of information. I love the 'virtual' chatting with people who understand me.

To make strides to 'grow' our community quickly, to enormous sizes is going to kill what we have. I have already noticed the 'snarkiness' of the community board, rearing it's head here. I don't like that. To organize this group within an inch of it's life, will be more like work than fun and it will drive me away.

The mission statement, committees, and rigid structure is definitly more work than fun. I didn't appreciate how others handled the first poster who disagreed with what is going on. I always felt I could have my own voice here, but I didn't post before b/c of how Robert was treated. I was a chicken, I never want to cause anyone to be angry. But, I decided hiding my head wasn't the right thing.

Though it hasn't really been said......I am really sorry to Robert for the treatment he received. I, for one WISHer, appreciate Robert's knowlege and expertise, and appreciate his contribution to the board.

Beth

 

[ultramickeymouse]

---Quote (Originally by CarolA)---
Now, the saddest part to me is that a poster was attacked for what he posted even if it was on another board. It's like the "censor police" are following folks around making sure they "play by the DIS rules"???? While this has happened on the DIS overall I have never been comfortable with it and find it sad that it continues....
---End Quote---
I should know better and keep my mouth shut, but...

There are no 'censor police' or people searching the internet to make sure others 'play by the DIS rules.'
Frankly, I think we all have real lives and real problems which take up most of our time.

Many WISHers are already members of many other websites & forums. When one person makes *personal *attacks against another person(s), I feel it is very mature to try to talk to the person via PM about such concerns - right or wrong. Especially when you know, have met, and have respect that other person(s). So, yes - when I (or a good friend) am stabbed in the back by a so-called friend, my feelings are hurt. I am only human.

I feel it is wrong to then post private PMs and bash people publicly calling them steers, bulls, cows, whatever. I guess we never really leave kindergarten, do we? Yes it is the internet and whatever goes. I am not that naive.

I know I should be taking the high road here, but being a hot-headed redhead I can only stand by so long while my friends & myself are made fun of by people I truly thought were friends. Shoot - we don't have to be friends, but a little respect goes a long way.

I for one love this group. I would never have continued any exercise program without the love & support of everyone here. I only wish for this group to continue a very long life. As people find out how wonderful WISH is, the group is growing & will grow astronomically. I will not speak for everyone, but I know that I only wish the very best for this group and certainly do not have the time, energy, or inclination to take the place over & be a tyrant.

*Carol* - I do think you had many valid points and I really do appreciate your input! I personally don't think a link from Disney Endurance is needed as well.

I am not going to touch the t-shirt issue with a ten foot pole!

I have been staying out of this mess as everyone but I won't sit around when people start saying I am in "kindergarten" . The Steering Commitee seems to take everything personally when I made my first comments and when my forumites and I just joke around with the name "Steering Committee". I can't believe how thin skinned people are or think the committee name position is holy and untouchable. We were just making the point that it is not as structured, have goals, have paid advertisers on topics, want to get in bed with Disney, or get copywritten. We just poke fun at each other and things in life. If anyone wants to go read the thread to see we weren't calling anyone any names, you can check it out at http://www.disneyrunning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1287&sid=795a85be5575e89501ee1d43351e05ad . Disclaimer(so don't create more problems)I am not trying to more viewers or members by posting this link. Most readers or posters here have never seen what I and fellow forumites posted.

If you read over the last 6 months we just have fun and a free flowing conversation. Nobody gets insulted or offended. Life is too short to take it so seriously. I am not the one who called a small forum like mine "stale" when it doesn't grow. I like being small and I have no problem with WISH wanting to grow. Especially in the right way. Many businesses in the world try to get bigger before they are set in their base and they just go away. My suggestion(as many WISH'ers have stated) add new threads and items here for the current WISH'ers before trying to add more many more new members.

If I(or my fellow forumites) are going to become a target, I will reverse my self imposed censorship dealing with this topic. We have never called anyone names but I see others have to resort to that.

 

[postesf]

Can't we all just get along???

Peace, Love and

 

[JimB.]

Life is too short to take it so seriously.

ETA: If some who frequent this forum have ideas for making it a more "community oriented" forum, have a ball. I fear that if a more "rigid" (I'm not sure if that is the term I am looking for....... but for now it will do) structure should enter, some may be more hesitant to join.

This is (so far) a pretty friendly, open, "free-wheeling" forum that has yet to take on the "cliquishness" of some other ones here. I hardly look at the CB any more due to this. You guys are fun, friendly, encouraging, welcoming to all & (so far) non-judgmental. But I get the feeling ( please correct me if I am mistaken) that POSSIBLY there is an undercurrent of "real" vs. "not real" or "just pretending" Wish'ers. I certainly hope that is not the case, & hope that a "steering committee" does not cause this. IMO, this forum does pretty good standing on it's own & does not need "steering". Possibly some "organizing" (the "subforum" idea I have seen floating about seems pretty good to me), but not much else.

Deep down inside, we are all just a bunch of guys & girls (no patronizing intended) trying to better ourselves physically & live more healthy, & we help each other when we are down & cheer each other's successes.

That (IMO) is the bottom line. Let's not screw it up.

 

[CarolA]

I have been staying out of this mess as everyone but I won't sit around when people start saying I am in "kindergarten" . The Steering Commitee seems to take everything personally when I made my first comments and when my forumites and I just joke around with the name "Steering Committee". I can't believe how thin skinned people are or think the committee name position is holy and untouchable. We were just making the point that it is not as structured, have goals, have paid advertisers on topics, want to get in bed with Disney, or get copywritten. We just poke fun at each other and things in life. If anyone wants to go read the thread to see we weren't calling anyone any names, you can check it out at http://www.disneyrunning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1287&sid=795a85be5575e89501ee1d43351e05ad . Disclaimer(so don't create more problems)I am not trying to more viewers or members by posting this link. Most readers or posters here have never seen what I and fellow forumites posted.

If you read over the last 6 months we just have fun and a free flowing conversation. Nobody gets insulted or offended. Life is too short to take it so seriously. I am not the one who called a small forum like mine "stale" when it doesn't grow. I like being small and I have no problem with WISH wanting to grow. Especially in the right way. Many businesses in the world try to get bigger before they are set in their base and they just go away. My suggestion(as many WISH'ers have stated) add new threads and items here for the current WISH'ers before trying to add more many more new members.

If I(or my fellow forumites) are going to become a target, I will reverse my self imposed censorship dealing with this topic. We have never called anyone names but I see others have to resort to that.

I have no idea who posted thier response to my post and then deleted it that Robert referred to here, because it's apparently NO longer with us. But to whomever posted it... I don't know how long you have been on the DIS, but sadly there is a tradition by the board owners and mods of "censorship" There are whole lists out there of people who have been banned because they posted negative things about the DIS on other boards....As a result there are now whole boards dedicated solely to trashing the DIS. The attack on Robert follow that trend of "only positive postings are allowed about how wonderfult the DIS is" LOL!


However, I also don't really follow the response. As I read this thread Robert NEVER outed anyone they "outed" themselves. And I don't approve of "attacking" via PMs and then pretending it's "private"... no more like chicken LOL!

I am not surprised this has happened, but am saddened. When I first heard the "steering committee" plan I was concerned...

I will continue to post on the events board, but not in this thread.

 

[tink06]

Ok, I too am keeping up, but haven't posted....

I want to say I found WISH from Robert's site - and I LOVE both forum's. The reason - b/c they each have their own wonderful little qualities about them. Both forums are very important to me, and it makes me sad to see our "family" arguing.


With regards to growth - I agree with the need for stickies at the top on specific issues, it is difficult to find certain threads, especially if you have limited time during the day while at work .

I also agree with the posting a thread to see who does what pace at races. I cannot tell you how much it meant to me to find people at the Minnie and have someone to walk with, which was b/c of the shirts - not a post - so I really lucked out!

As far as the bigger items - posting on Disney, etc... hey throw it out there, see what sticks with the group - I personally wouldn't be in favor of it, but that's my opinion.... I had no problem finding you guys when I needed to!

The one think I love most about the forum is that it's not like the other racing sites - we joke, we laugh, we get support about training, about life, and just generally have good helpful people to talk to - as long as that doesn't get lost in the growth, I'm hopin WISH will be ok.

 

[wtpclc]

Once again, no one who has posted constructive comments here has been treated with anything but respect in regards to those comments posted here. I want to encourage people to post there opinions here.

I know I should keep mymouth shut, but I am tired of looking like a monster here and even more tired of other wonderful WISHers taking heat fo my actions. There is a WISHer that decided it would be more constructive to talk about the Steering Committee on another forum and proceded to post that the Steering committe was "dictating", saying "Too much politics and meetings. It's all about getting out there and doing it, not talking about it for months", accusing teh Steerign Committee of wanting to rule the world for thinking about getting a link from Disney Endurance, and, finally that we forgot what WISH stands for. You can follow the link above. Start on page 70 and 71 and decide if I was out of line.

Who here would not be offended by that? Being personally hurt, I PMd that WISHer on the site where it was posted. My PM was more to tell him that it looked bad on his part and that I was personally (not Steering Committe just one offended person) offended.

You may want to keep in mind that you have a public board and that many WISHers have access to it.

Very disappointed by your insults. As part of the steering committee, I am perosnally offended.

We liked being small too, but at some point that gets stale. With growth there tends to be a need for a little organization. Sorry that you see that as being such a bad thing.

You know I''ve been part of many spin-offs, but I try very hard to never put down another board. It just looks petty. Maybe you should think about doing the same.

Carrie

Next thing I know, it ws posted here making it look like I PMd that to him regarding what he posted here. It was not. I had not even seen it yet and was not upset by gettign the feedback that was asked for.

While it looks a bit harsh to how I normally post, I don't think it was any less harsh than what was posted publically. Why does no one care that the Steering Committee are people with feelings too? Why was it ok for us to be bashed behind our backs? Why is ok that I was further attacked by having my PM posted publically and completely out of context?

I made the mistake of sending one PM because I was hurt. If you think I am a horrible person, fine. Tell me. However, please do not blame the entire steering committee because I was too upset not to say anything.

 

[postesf]

Ok, I too am keeping up, but haven't posted....

I want to say I found WISH from Robert's site - and I LOVE both forum's. The reason - b/c they each have their own wonderful little qualities about them. Both forums are very important to me, and it makes me sad to see our "family" arguing.


With regards to growth - I agree with the need for stickies at the top on specific issues, it is difficult to find certain threads, especially if you have limited time during the day while at work .

I also agree with the posting a thread to see who does what pace at races. I cannot tell you how much it meant to me to find people at the Minnie and have someone to walk with, which was b/c of the shirts - not a post - so I really lucked out!

As far as the bigger items - posting on Disney, etc... hey throw it out there, see what sticks with the group - I personally wouldn't be in favor of it, but that's my opinion.... I had no problem finding you guys when I needed to!

The one think I love most about the forum is that it's not like the other racing sites - we joke, we laugh, we get support about training, about life, and just generally have good helpful people to talk to - as long as that doesn't get lost in the growth, I'm hopin WISH will be ok.

Me too! BTW...Nice to run into you during the Minnie 15K! It was nice chatting for a bit around what Mile 3/4...

 

[CarolA]

Once again, no one who has posted constructive comments here has been treated with anything but respect in regards to those comments posted here. I want to encourage people to post there opinions here.

I know I should keep mymouth shut, but I am tired of looking like a monster here and even more tired of other wonderful WISHers taking heat fo my actions. There is a WISHer that decided it would be more constructive to talk about the Steering Committee on another forum and proceded to post that the Steering committe was "dictating", saying "Too much politics and meetings. It's all about getting out there and doing it, not talking about it for months", accusing teh Steerign Committee of wanting to rule the world for thinking about getting a link from Disney Endurance, and, finally that we forgot what WISH stands for. You can follow the link above. Start on page 70 and 71 and decide if I was out of line.

Who here would not be offended by that? Being personally hurt, I PMd that WISHer on the site where it was posted. My PM was more to tell him that it looked bad on his part and that I was personally (not Steering Committe just one offended person) offended.



Next thing I know, it ws posted here making it look like I PMd that to him regarding what he posted here. It was not. I had not even seen it yet and was not upset by gettign the feedback that was asked for.

While it looks a bit harsh to how I normally post, I don't think it was any less harsh than what was posted publically. Why does no one care that the Steering Committee are people with feelings too? Why was it ok for us to be bashed behind our backs? Why is ok that I was further attacked by having my PM posted publically and completely out of context?

I made the mistake of sending one PM because I was hurt. If you think I am a horrible person, fine. Tell me. However, please do not blame the entire steering committee because I was too upset not to say anything.

I am violating my own promise.

Sorry, but I think this entire post is out of line. If you want to be a member of a steering committee in any organization then you must accept responsiblity that as that "steering committee" your actions reflect not just upon YOU but the entire committee.

I read the posts you referred to.. Personally I thought they were funny....

As I read this whole thread I am not sure that I don't agree that this is getting away from the original intent of WISH. And it does feel to a certain extent like "dictating". My distinct impression is that "WISH" will either go the way of the steering committee or we will now have a huge mess with people who have put in a lot of time very upset and pulling thier support.

 

[wtpclc]

My distinct impression is that "WISH" will either go the way of the steering committee or we will now have a huge mess with people who have put in a lot of time very upset and pulling thier support.

That is 100% untrue adn i'm sorry you have gotten that impression.

 

[WDWFAN9]

Ok, everyone just settle down (said in my best I am the MOM voice). Let's focus on what is important - our WISH community and keeping it the wonderful, welcoming place that it has been in the past!!

In no way does the steering committe intend to dictate to the group! How rearranging our stickys to make it easier to navigate equates to a political action/dictatorship puzzles me, but rest assured that is not going to happen.

Please, please, please let's keep the focus where it should be!

 

[shell78]

So thanks for throwing that big fat tomato at my head and making me rethink things. Didn't hurt a bit.

Glad I didn't hurt you, LOL. :

I have to say that I have appreciated people's responses to my comments. It is very hard to gauge intent and what people meant by the suggestions with the limited details presented. The explanations have made the intent a little clearer.

That said I think one reason this is blowing up into an explosive situation refers to something JimB mentioned - that this really isn't steering per se but more of an organizational type thing. I think people also have issues (I won't speak for them, but this is my own perception of the situation) because it was presented in a way that was "absolute-ist" vs. "flexible-ist". I have to say I hadn't seen anything about a steering committee until bam there it was on the web, so maybe it also caught a lot of others by surprise. Maybe we're all just getting caught up in the semantics of it all rather than the intention...

 

[postesf]

Maybe we're all just getting caught up in the semantics of it all rather than the intention...

My perception-- I kinda get this too. I viewed it a group of folks trying to better what we already have. Just attempting a little organization, streamlining the stickies to help us be able to help ourselves a bit better. There is a lot of knowlege on here and sometimes the widson, comments, suggestions get lost in the weekly threads or get burried.

For a lot of us I think this is place to come for fun, support, suggestions, a place to escape to and get a good laugh or support when our Real Life gets tough.

I know without WISH, I would not be nearly as excited for my upcoming events. WISH helps me stay motivated. I'm not a self-motivator and I need to read other's experiences or suggestions to keep myself moving. I have to have the events to keep going.

I appreciate WISH for what is has provided me and hope it only gets better in the future. I've met some good friends here and hope that I've been able to provide back a bit of the support I have received.

I think the suggestions are just that...suggestions. Some may work, some may not. If they don't...they don't. No big deal.

I really am a go with the flow type of person and I really hope this all works itself out in the end for the good and betterment of the WISH folks on here.

Stacie