Wilma is Making Me Crazy!

jwfla422 said:
I think we'll head to your house after any hurricanes LOL!! :goodvibes

I've got friends from Key West coming to stay with us. We've been wavering for two days over should they stay put or come, because you never know if it's going North. Finally decided that they'll take the chance and come north, thinking that it's better to be at my place and take a hit, than to stay and take a hit. And we haven't seen each other in a long time, so it will be a great chance to catch up LOL!

Anne
 
raven69david said:
Well I'm of the opposite opinion. When there are children involved i do not think taking the risk justifies the means....no matter how improbable the outcome may be. Hurricanes are unpredictable. If the storm passes by without affecting WDW at least they are safe and can always reschedule. If they do go and the storm changes track and they are in the path of the storm then the whole family has needlessly been placed at risk. Just my .02 cents.


As I've said before, WDW has a proven track record of being a safe place to shelter in a hurricane, even if it takes a direct (or more or less direct) hit, ala the "Three Amigo's" last year.

Using your logic, don't ever take your kids to Oklahome, because a tornado could happen. Or Denver because there could be a freak snow storm. Or God Forbid you travel to San Francisco, because there could be an earthquake. It's called a calculated risk. We take them in life every day.

If you told me you were planning a vacation to Naples, I'd strongly encourage you to cancel. Big difference. Again, taking risk into consideration.

Anne
 
ducklite said:
I was here starting with Frances, in fact we moved in THAT DAY, as is well documented on my web site. I also had the common sense to spend the extra money to build a home with the materials and in a manner that will withstand up to a strong CAT 3. I live 240 feet above sea level, if I flood, I hope the rest of you have arks. I also have the common sense to have supplies stocked up year round. A weeks worth of non-perishable foods, water, blue tarps, a generator, enough gas to last a week with careful use, a chainsaw, even a window a/c unit, flashlights with plenty of extra batteries, a camp stove, the list goes on. I don't wait until the last minute to run out and buy supplies. I have Storm Stoppers for the windows, pre-measured and prepped, takes me two hours to hang them all by myself. It's called taking personal responsibility.

There are plenty of rooms still available in Central FL, but if people don't bother to book them and then just show up, well, duh. You also have the option of going to shelters in your area.

I have a heart as wide as the Mississippi. I just don't suffer fools well.

Anne
Yes I remember when you moved here.. you weren't in for all of them...and Charley was the worst. That being said, Charley was a 4 when it hit by me. I hope for your sake (that your house is only apt to withstand a 3) that a 5 never comes thru, by the time the winds hit you it can be a 4, will your house be able to take it? Yeah I had damage on a 4 but it was still standing. No one ever said you would flood, in fact that is what I said the difference would be, you wouldn't get the storm surge. All of the streets in your town are not protected from flooding from heavy rains & that is what I was saying..heavy rains = street flooding, but you haven't been here long enough to see that yet (lucky for you). I don't need a room in Orlando, I have property in Ocala as well as a family in Palm Coast & many friends in Orlando that I could stay with. If you read my post, you would see that I said I had 3 pets/dogs. I cannot get into a shelter with them & I wouldn't leave them. As far as jumping the gun & leaving now (if I had needed a room), with a storm, you never can tell when it will hit for sure. Had I left yesterday heading to Orlando, staying at a hotel, planing on returning home for Monday..my plans would be changing by now. I would have to stay longer & as of now maybe as long as Wed, no one knows for sure. If you really had a heart as wide as Mississppi you wouldn't have posted what you did. There were many poor people in New Orleans that couldn't get out, they had no where to go, even the ones that went to shelters weren't in any better shape (by the way just to let you know, shelters aren't 100% safe or hurricane proof, there were many here & in Punta Gorda last year that suffered damage from Charley). I wonder if that is why you have your banner for Katrina..maybe it is your quilt because you "just don't suffer fools well" That being said this conversation should be ended & thread closed.... it is really a shame that in a time like this people cannot stop to think before they open their mouths with disrespectful comments. :confused3
 
A Mickeyfan said:
Yes I remember when you moved here.. you weren't in for all of them...and Charley was the worst. That being said, Charley was a 4 when it hit by me.

Although Charley might have been the worst for you, it wasn't even close for this area. In fact my friend checked the house for us (we had already closed on it), and called me to say "there wasn't a leaf off a tree". Jeanne was the worst for my area.

I hope for your sake (that your house is only apt to withstand a 3) that a 5 never comes thru, by the time the winds hit you it can be a 4, will your house be able to take it?

One of the reasons we chose to build here was so we were far enough inland that a four or five was an extremely high improbablility. If we ever take a hit that hard, the rest of the state has probably ceased to exist, and I will have evacuated long ahead of it.

Yeah I had damage on a 4 but it was still standing. No one ever said you would flood, in fact that is what I said the difference would be, you wouldn't get the storm surge. All of the streets in your town are not protected from flooding from heavy rains & that is what I was saying..heavy rains = street flooding, but you haven't been here long enough to see that yet (lucky for you).

Trust me, I DID see some areas of this town with flooded streets last year, and even earlier this year. But it was the STREETS that flooded, not houses. A foot of water in the street isn't going to keep a fire truck from getting to you. I don't think you are familiar with the territory in this area. It's very hilly, and while there are a few homes built right on lakeshores that could flood--well, again, its a risk you take for building where you have the conveneince of a dock in your back yard.

I don't need a room in Orlando, I have property in Ocala as well as a family in Palm Coast & many friends in Orlando that I could stay with. If you read my post, you would see that I said I had 3 pets/dogs. I cannot get into a shelter with them & I wouldn't leave them.

Are you sure about that? In this area there are several pet friendly shelters.

As far as jumping the gun & leaving now (if I had needed a room), with a storm, you never can tell when it will hit for sure. Had I left yesterday heading to Orlando, staying at a hotel, planing on returning home for Monday..my plans would be changing by now. I would have to stay longer & as of now maybe as long as Wed, no one knows for sure. If you really had a heart as wide as Mississppi you wouldn't have posted what you did.

And considering there are a ton of rooms still available, why would someone not cancelling their vacation plans affect you?

There were many poor people in New Orleans that couldn't get out, they had no where to go, even the ones that went to shelters weren't in any better shape (by the way just to let you know, shelters aren't 100% safe or hurricane proof, there were many here & in Punta Gorda last year that suffered damage from Charley).

The situation in LA was very different than that in FL, where a more comprehensive and proven evacuation scheme is in place. I know that some of teh shelters in the Punta Gorda area had damage last year, but the Orlando Red Cross has already indicated that they will open shelters in this area for people from the south once the hotels are full. No one will be left out in the storm because people contnue with their vacation plans.

I wonder if that is why you have your banner for Katrina..maybe it is your quilt because you "just don't suffer fools well" That being said this conversation should be ended & thread closed.... it is really a shame that in a time like this people cannot stop to think before they open their mouths with disrespectful comments. :confused3

I have no guilt over the situation in LA. I did everything in my power to help, including donating more than a couple months mortgage payments to several charities. I stand by my opinion that anyone with plans to come to Orlando for vacation should come on down. There are still plenty of rooms. Daytona is saying they have over 1000 available as well. Why turn people who will support the economy away when at this time there's no shortage of hotel rooms?

I believe in personal responsibility. I have a well prepared home, and am also prepared to evacuate and can stay with friends in LA, GA, VA, NJ, PA, NY, or TN if I ever needed to.

Anne
 

ducklite said:
Although Charley might have been the worst for you, it wasn't even close for this area. In fact my friend checked the house for us (we had already closed on it), and called me to say "there wasn't a leaf off a tree". Jeanne was the worst for my area.



One of the reasons we chose to build here was so we were far enough inland that a four or five was an extremely high improbablility. If we ever take a hit that hard, the rest of the state has probably ceased to exist, and I will have evacuated long ahead of it.



Trust me, I DID see some areas of this town with flooded streets last year, and even earlier this year. But it was the STREETS that flooded, not houses. A foot of water in the street isn't going to keep a fire truck from getting to you. I don't think you are familiar with the territory in this area. It's very hilly, and while there are a few homes built right on lakeshores that could flood--well, again, its a risk you take for building where you have the conveneince of a dock in your back yard.



Are you sure about that? In this area there are several pet friendly shelters.



And considering there are a ton of rooms still available, why would someone not cancelling their vacation plans affect you?



The situation in LA was very different than that in FL, where a more comprehensive and proven evacuation scheme is in place. I know that some of teh shelters in the Punta Gorda area had damage last year, but the Orlando Red Cross has already indicated that they will open shelters in this area for people from the south once the hotels are full. No one will be left out in the storm because people contnue with their vacation plans.



I have no guilt over the situation in LA. I did everything in my power to help, including donating more than a couple months mortgage payments to several charities. I stand by my opinion that anyone with plans to come to Orlando for vacation should come on down. There are still plenty of rooms. Daytona is saying they have over 1000 available as well. Why turn people who will support the economy away when at this time there's no shortage of hotel rooms?

I believe in personal responsibility. I have a well prepared home, and am also prepared to evacuate and can stay with friends in LA, GA, VA, NJ, PA, NY, or TN if I ever needed to.

Anne
Are you sure about that? In this area there are several pet friendly shelters. I am 110% sure on that, in this area there aren't any. They said they were going to start one up after Charley hit & never did.

And considering there are a ton of rooms still available, why would someone not cancelling their vacation plans affect you? It isn't affecting me, I just felt that your reasoning for telling someone not to cancel wasn't very nice in lieu of what is happening in this part of the state. I hope people do not cancel their Disney plans this time around. The chance of getting hit there are very slim. I am aware of the rooms in the Orlando area. What concerns me is the traffic & the gas situations that will arise after the storm hits.

Although Charley might have been the worst for you, it wasn't even close for this area. In fact my friend checked the house for us (we had already closed on it), and called me to say "there wasn't a leaf off a tree". Jeanne was the worst for my area That storm may have been the worse for your particular house/street area, but not the greater Orlando area in general. I do believe that Charley came thru with more punch & depending on what side of the punch you were at was what damage you got.

One of the reasons we chose to build here was so we were far enough inland that a four or five was an extremely high improbablility. If we ever take a hit that hard, the rest of the state has probably ceased to exist, and I will have evacuated long ahead of it. You are miles inland compared to many in the state of FL, but the probability isn't as slim as you think. You are (I believe) less than 120 miles either way from each coast. If a CAT 5 was to hit Daytona or Tampa area's & the hurricane force winds extended outward 170 miles or so..you will get some pretty bad damage. I am not doubting that you would be safer than on the coast, I am only trying to make you see that you are not hurricane proof. Then to say something as senseless as you did about those on the coast is just uncalled for especially when something like this is happening.

Trust me, I DID see some areas of this town with flooded streets last year, and even earlier this year. But it was the STREETS that flooded, not houses. A foot of water in the street isn't going to keep a fire truck from getting to you. I don't think you are familiar with the territory in this area. It's very hilly, and while there are a few homes built right on lakeshores that could flood--well, again, its a risk you take for building where you have the conveneince of a dock in your back yard. You haven't seen much if you have only seen a foot in the road. My actual neighborhood doens't require flood insurance for a mortgage (believe it or not & I am at 7fl above sea level and 10-15 miles from the coast). I have been here for 14 years & I have seen more flooding on our streets from summer rains than I have during any tropical storm or hurricane coming thru. I have seen 3 feet of water on my street with catfish swiming by...no it didn't get into my house & yes, fire & resuce can get thru. Just 3 weeks ago it rained so hard for only 30 minutes that my entire street was under water, I opened my sliders to go out to the lanai & my lanai had ankle deep water in it! The pool didn't overflow, but the rain runoff came into my lanai... Do you have a pool? If so your deck should have a slant going away from your pool. The run off will go there & build up if it rains hard enough in a short period of time. That is how my lanai floods. My pool deck is very large, my lanai is closed in & there is a drain that seperates the deck from the lanai yet some rains cause flooding becasue the drain cannot handle the large amounts of rain in short time frames. This has nothing to do with living on a hill. I lived on hills for 30 years in NY & 3 in CT...I know what they are. Yes, if you live on a hill or are as far inland as you are you will not get a storm surge, but you can still get flooding. They are 2 different things. I don't think you understand the difference in them. Half of New England is flooding now from rains..they are hilly areas.

I believe in personal responsibility. I have a well prepared home, and am also prepared to evacuate and can stay with friends in LA, GA, VA, NJ, PA, NY, or TN if I ever needed to. I agree with you, I believe in personal responsibility also, I have my hurricane supplies as well, I have places that I can go to also that isn't the point here..the point was your comment on why someone shouldn't cancel their ressie..just because someone choose to live on the coast (and as I said not all of us exactly choose it willingly) that they should be punished by the storms if they don't evacuate & in your mind if they didn't have their hotelroom by now too bad :confused3

When you are here for several years then tell us what we can expect & not expect. People that have lived all thier lives in the middle of the state never thought they would see the damage from last years storms. Each year the storms seem to be getting worse, it is all stemming form the El Nino & El Nina and globle warming... unless you have some super powers that the rest of us don't have, don't say what can or cannot happen in your area.


My point in a nut shell to you is:
1. You comment on why one shouldn't cancel the room was uncalled for. You have no right to judge people.
2. No place in the entire state of Florida is hurricane proof. There is a possibility that anywhere in this state can get hit. Heaven forbid, if what happened Christmas time last year with the tsunami happened here, we are all gonners and yes, it is possible, will it....more than likely (hopfully) not, but can it...yes it can.

I am not telling anyone to cancel their trip to Orlando... by all means they should come. The most Orlando should get from this storm is rain... and they get it every day from June to Sept anyway. They should however monitor what is going on. (There is always the slim possibility that something can go that way with the stike zone cone & margin of error. Orlando is or at least was in the cone.) There will be more traffic to deal with, there can be a gas shortage (our state is famous for that when a storm comes around), there may be some travel delays at the airport, bus & train stations. On the other hand, if someone was saying they were canceling because they didn't want to add to an already congested area, I would say "thank you for thinking of us" instead of what you had said. :confused3
 
I fly out 10:00 A.M Saturday.
I'm not worried.
Just to excited.
I leave in 13 1/2 hours.
:banana: :banana:
 
ducklite said:
As I've said before, WDW has a proven track record of being a safe place to shelter in a hurricane, even if it takes a direct (or more or less direct) hit, ala the "Three Amigo's" last year.

Using your logic, don't ever take your kids to Oklahome, because a tornado could happen. Or Denver because there could be a freak snow storm. Or God Forbid you travel to San Francisco, because there could be an earthquake. It's called a calculated risk. We take them in life every day.

If you told me you were planning a vacation to Naples, I'd strongly encourage you to cancel. Big difference. Again, taking risk into consideration.

Anne


well said!!
 
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I believe after Wilma most of will be driving cars like Fred Flintstone....

/please try the wings, tip your waitress
 
I don't think anyone should cancel their travel plans. WDW would be a pretty safe place to be in the event of a hurricane. But, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do EXACTLY as you are told and pay attention to what is going on around you.

We are well north of NO and suffered catastrophic wind damage from Katrina. I was in Hattiesburg, MS (many miles inland) last week and the damage there is amazing. There were hotels with the windows blown out, lots of roofs missing or severely damaged, and trees down everywhere.

Although everyone around here did a good job of picking up and securing loose items, there was still a lot of damage from things people just didn't think would get blown around. A friend of ours had a diesel tank in their yard with 50 gals. of diesel in it that was blown completely across their property.

Even with that kind of damage, no one around here lost their life (thank goodness). It pays to follow instructions. Just do as you're told and things will be allright.
 
A Mickeyfan said:

When you are here for several years then tell us what we can expect & not expect. People that have lived all thier lives in the middle of the state never thought they would see the damage from last years storms. Each year the storms seem to be getting worse, it is all stemming form the El Nino & El Nina and globle warming... unless you have some super powers that the rest of us don't have, don't say what can or cannot happen in your area.


Yeah mother nature can be a B. Poor Yucatan, I feel for all coastal areas by warm waters. Many felled trees.. Looks like the gulf is turning into the Bay of Bengal. With high technology like radar and supercomputers many lives can be saved. But the land and thus the property cannot:(
 
I went to WDW when Hurricane Ivan was making his trek upward. When I was heading down, everyone on Florida was leaving. It was kind of funny but at the same time, it was scary. I have never seen a traffic jam like that before. The original projection was for it to go to Tampa and then come up to Orlando. Well, it didn't. It went to the Gulf Shores Area and came up thru Birmngham. I had some damage when I got home but I was able to have one of the best vacations I had ever had because everyone had evacuated. No waits at the parks at all. It was great. It really seemed like we had the parks to ourselves. I can't say that that will be the case again but I wouldn't totally give up hope.
 
I'm just praying that Wilma dies in the Gulf...with the havoc she is wreaking on Cozumel & Cancun right now, it would serve her right! Along with the fact that the State of Florida shouldn't have to face yet another hurricane -- and selfishly, I would rather not have hurricane "issues" during the 2 days I have free for my conference at CSR...

Pixie dust to Wilma playing the disappearing act!
 
You need to speak up to your local politicians about getting a pet friendly shelter in place. That's how it got done around here. We have a sleepy little town of 30,000 plus, but people like it here. Our local election this fall has all incumbants running unopposed. There's a reason for that, the politicians want to work for the people. Just another thing I like about this area :)

I am 20 miles west of Orlando. Charley was not as much an issue in this area. We got the "Clean" side of the storm. The eye was about 35-40 miles from us, and as it was a "small" storm, it didn't really affect us any more than a strong afternoon thunderstorm would.

I agree, if a CAT 5 slammed into Tampa, we'd have a problem. Not so much with Daytona, unless it took a weird path and headed south, not likely. But I'd also be long out of here.

I don't have a pool. My front yard takes a long, gradual slope downward to the street, it's about 3 feet higher than street level. My rear yard goes back and then takes a six foot drop off to the golf course. Trust me, I'm not going to flood. Additioanlly, this area is for the most part not prone to flooding. We have very different topography than you would imagine for the state of FL. Yes, there are certain parts that will flood, they are all a mile or two from me. They are lower lying areas along the lakeshores. When I say flood, I mean between a few inches and a couple feet across the roadways. Very few homes are built in those flood prone areas. And yes, I fully understand the diference between storm surge and flooding. I moved here from NJ, and we get hurricanes there, and 30 miles inland we got significant and devastating flooding after Floyd in some areas, but obviusly no storm surge.

I don't think it's unreasonable to feel that anyone on the coast should be thinking ahead, and have booked a cancellable hotel room if they feel they might want to evacuate. And I don't think it's unreasonable for people to want to continue on with their vacation plans. There's plenty of room, gas, and food for everyone.

I've owned this lot for over 2 1/2 years, and have visited it regularly during the building process, so I've seen firsthand what storms do and do not do to THIS area. I am not commenting on the rest of the state.

I would NOT be a goner from a Tsunami. Like I said, I'm 240 feet above sea level, and I live over 60 miles inland from either direction (more like 80 from the Atlantic) If a Tsunami takes my home, then the Southeast has probably ceased to exist.

Anne
 
msuspartan:
I am sure it is frustrating--lots of unreliable hurricane information out there, that's for sure.
And I agree completely with Ducklite--as far as a vacation at WDW is concerned--GO!!!
 
msuspartan said:
As I posted earlier, we were originally scheduled to fly down to Orlando this morning to begin a 10-day vacation (that's been a year-and-a-half in the making). We decided that we didn't want to risk being down there when Wilma comes through, and especially didn't want to take up a room if someone on the coast needs it more, so we delayed until next Wednesday, Oct. 26. Now I get up and see that Wilma has slowed down again and may not be hitting until Tuesday morning! Are you kidding me?! I do feel guilty about being so bummed about this, because this is just a vacation and others who live down there are worried about their homes and safety, but we have had an incredibly stressful year and were so looking forward to this! I've become a crazy lady...checking the national hurricane center and weather channel Web sites every five minutes! I'm just so worried we're never going to get down there! Ugh!

We are leaving in a few hours and I have been crazy thinking about wilma.. But the weather says it will be south of us..

Hope you have a good time on your vacation-
 
...Leaving in 2 days. We are schedules to leave 7:45 monday morning for Orlando.As of right now my flyt is still ago.So unless southwest cancels it We are on our way to see the mouse. I was worrying bout it and than realized it was only making me more upset, I cant do anything bout it so i'll just hope for the best. I know once i get down there i will have a good time no matter what. Good luck to all the travelers and people that live in Florida.
 
We are scheduled Monday am (SW), but are going to try to fly standby tomorrow morning. We cancelled last year for the hurricane (we make several trips a year so one less wasn't a big deal). We added a night on site (we are staying for the first time in a while off site rest of the trip). We had lots of choices, so it seems Disney has rooms for those who need to evacutate (while the Sheraton Safari says they are totally booked). Last time it seemed they needed the rooms, so we didn't feel right going.
 
Personally, I dont think anyone HAS to live by the coast. Some people commute 90 minutes each way per day to get to their workplace.

Too many hear hurricane and PANIC and start mourning before the darn thing even hits!

Please, just educate yourself about hurricanes, your own home and property, and sensible/responsible evacuation plans to keep your loved ones safe.

For those traveling to Orlando, GO! There will always be people looking for drama no matter the situation.
 
msuspartan said:
As I posted earlier, we were originally scheduled to fly down to Orlando this morning to begin a 10-day vacation (that's been a year-and-a-half in the making). We decided that we didn't want to risk being down there when Wilma comes through, and especially didn't want to take up a room if someone on the coast needs it more, so we delayed until next Wednesday, Oct. 26. Now I get up and see that Wilma has slowed down again and may not be hitting until Tuesday morning! Are you kidding me?! I do feel guilty about being so bummed about this, because this is just a vacation and others who live down there are worried about their homes and safety, but we have had an incredibly stressful year and were so looking forward to this! I've become a crazy lady...checking the national hurricane center and weather channel Web sites every five minutes! I'm just so worried we're never going to get down there! Ugh!

You should be okay...she'll be out of here by Tuesday evening. And this weekend's weather looks lousy...70% chance of rain today, 80% tomorrow and Monday will be a total loss thanks to Wilma. I don't like the increased tornado risk we're going to see with this hurricane. There's always an increased risk with canes, but this one is going to run right into a cold front that will be moving down here in the next day or so.....I actually read a couple weather discussions that are saying that the northwest quad of this storm may produce the worse weather as a result of that front. Orlando will be in the northwest quad of this storm. Great.
 
I'm heading out on Monday morning at 7:30am from Omaha to Orlando (through Houston). Not knowing if Wilma's outer bands will affect Orlando -- and potentially flights, I have a plan in the event I get stranded in Houston. Ideally, in a PERFECT world, all of the meteorologist will be wrong and Wilma will turn more than they anticipated and skirt between Florida and Cuba -- but I know that isn't going to happen.

Selfishly, I really want to make my trip -- it's for business, but I have also planned 2 1/2 days in the parks...but, I am aware that those LIVING in Florida are dealing with this one more time than they wanted to in a 18 month period.
 














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