Will you buy Poly 2 resale or direct?

[MerlinandtheMouse]

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Ah yes, same. It’s called willful ignorance or as the youths call it…yolo (this is not financial advise pls don’t come for me)

 

[Sandisw]

But you'd be at the mercy of DVD and depend on which resorts get added next to the trust. If a lot of Aulani units get added or DVD decides to do a cheap conversion of an existing resort (PO Riverside?), this balance might change fast. The incentive for DVD will always be there as they can sell points to less valuable locations by pointing at the Poly tower.

Existing association in the classic model has it's disadvantages (existing association owners if you want 1BR+) but also the advantage that this association probably won't change as rapidly over time as the trust might.

From a different perspective, they might attach another quarter of CBR to Riviera tomorrow so I guess no one is really safe.

The way the trust is set up, they have to add whole units so I don’t see any resorts prior to CFW being added because DVD can only add property it owns and they don’t own units at other places.

Also, they can add more than one property to the trust under diffeeent vacation plans and keep diffeeent booking windows in place.

There seems to be some who think if it’s added there are no home resorts. The way DVD set up their trust, thst isn’t true.

All we are guaranteed even now is a one month home resort advantage and I don’t see that changing even with the trust and the way they hafe set up trust use plans for CFW.

So, being part of a trust with the potential for access to more than one prior to trading via BVTC is a product I could be interested in moving forward.

Now, if the current PVB was a top choice for me than my thoughts would be different but they are not.

 

[Sandisw]

How can it be 1 association if its in The Trust? So all the original owners are now in a Trust? Can they do that?

No, they can’t do it like that. The only thing they could do…I beleive..would be to put Poly tower under a different vacation plan than the way PVB is set.

But. Even I think that would be a weird move. The current PVB won’t and can’t become part of the current trust model becomes wits already been sold as a leasehold condominium.

 

[intamin]

I probably won’t buy - I already own BLT and VGF direct and don’t need any more points and I’m old too! - however - if the price is good I’ll pick up some but they’ll be direct…

You could own all 3 monorail resorts though.. like in monopoly..

 

[maui22]

We are waiting to see what the building has, number of rooms in each view, and of course the dues.

If we like it, we will sell some or all of our BLT points and buy direct.

Never thought we may join the 500 point club, but it is a possibility because of the tower.

 

[TCRAIG]

You could own all 3 monorail resorts though.. like in monopoly..

That would be AWESOME!

 

[intamin]

I'm actually surprised about the ratio of direct to resale this poll has started off with early on. Was expecting it to be around 50/50

 

[mort1331]

You could own all 3 monorail resorts though.. like in monopoly..

Then you have to pay double the rent,,,just like the game

 

[Lorana]

I am interested in direct if part of the same association, and if the pricing and incentives are good, and if the dues and point charts aren’t outrageous. I suspect though it’ll be more than I want to pay.

Otherwise I think I lean towards resale. We have 100 resale points now. I’d like options for 1/2 BRs but I’d also want to see what the rooms are like — but we like the studios enough to want more points.

if it’s a separate association, I think we might pass for now.

 

[TheDailyMoo]

I wouldn’t mind waiting to see how the 7 month game plays out before deciding. Also I agree it would have to be around $180 after incentives to buy direct. I do think when it’s all said and done it’s going to be a beautiful building even if it sticks out like a giant concrete thumb right now.

 

[intamin]

I wouldn’t mind waiting to see how the 7 month game plays out before deciding. Also I agree it would have to be around $180 after incentives to buy direct. I do think when it’s all said and done it’s going to be a beautiful building even if it sticks out like a giant concrete thumb right now.

I wonder how long it'll take for booking to normalize at the tower. I expect it to be pretty tough to book in the beginning just because it's new but also you have a lot of PVB owners who are looking to book there because of lack of 1/2BR options for the longest time.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I wonder how long it'll take for booking to normalize at the tower. I expect it to be pretty tough to book in the beginning just because it's new but also you have a lot of PVB owners who are looking to book there because of lack of 1/2BR options for the longest time.

I think Disney will be very stingy declaring inventory like over at VDH. Though, I’m not sure how it will work if they will indeed be in the same association. There will be so many owners of the old poly looking to book the limited release of the new resort? It will be interesting.

 

[AwfulWaffle]

Direct so we can finally have some Rivera and Cabin points but only if the incentives are decent. Otherwise we will continue to enjoy our legacy resale resorts until those contracts mo longer exist

 

[Sandisw]

I wouldn’t mind waiting to see how the 7 month game plays out before deciding. Also I agree it would have to be around $180 after incentives to buy direct. I do think when it’s all said and done it’s going to be a beautiful building even if it sticks out like a giant concrete thumb right now.

They didn't really discount CFW and I would think that one would have been one to start out strong...and yet?

So, I am not expecting to see great incentives on Poly tower either. And, the cynic in me (along with some other things) makes me hesitant to figure out why that was...other than Poly tower and CFW will be tied together in some way and supports the pricing strategy....

 

[BeachClub2014]

I voted no to purchasing Poly2. We have zero interest in the resort. The existing Poly is meh, at best.

 

[Lorana]

even if it sticks out like a giant concrete thumb right now.

We saw it from the top of Topolino’s the other week and, yes, it really sticks out like a sore thumb… can’t wait for it to be finished.

Even if I will forever mourn the beautiful beaches and spaces that both VGF and now Poly Tower have taken away.

 

[Cabius]

I will take a serious look at buying direct, if it's <$200 with incentives. Otherwise, I might add on more PVB via resale, though we'll see what the association situation looks like and what that does to resale prices.

I paid $250 for sold-out direct PVB points in 2020, so anything south of $200 feels like a bargain. (I have 100 direct, and 250 resale, all at PVB.)

 

[bbeagle]

Remember when they extended OKW from 2042 to 2057? Could they do the same thing if you buy 'new' direct Poly points? The Poly2 would be in the same association, but the expiration would extend from 2066 to 2074?

The extra 8 years would not be much an incentive to me, but for some people it might be.

 

[cdirazonian]

We’ll really have to see what the price is, after last summer’s VGF direct deal, I’d like the prices to be around that or in $180’s after incentives & MB (very wishful thinking I know)

We have 300 direct plus 210 grandfathered to be able to use at newer resorts, plus our 180 resale PVB. Would probably need more PVB if end up liking the tower, which I’m not too convinced about yet as we really like the longhouses and that location & don’t mind booking 2 studios and split stays if needing more space.

Definitely more inclined to buy direct if it’s the same association, as I think I’d just get too confused and upset if I have to try & keep tract of separated PVB contracts and couldn’t book whole trip all at once.

And definitely not willing to sell our PVB1 to buy all direct PVD2, longhouses hold too much nostalgia for us (1st trips, honeymoon, etc)

 

[davidhr]

Remember when they extended OKW from 2042 to 2057? Could they do the same thing if you buy 'new' direct Poly points? The Poly2 would be in the same association, but the expiration would extend from 2066 to 2074?

The extra 8 years would not be much an incentive to me, but for some people it might be.

As Oppenheimer said: The chances are near zero.