Will DCL leave FL?

[tvguy]

I hope DCL does require vaccines, but once they are available to every age group, then I will admit the opposite scenario is also true. Once anyone can get it, then it may not longer matter who does or doesn't.

I guess it depends on your perspective...I want my family protected. Today that means if I were going on a cruise, I would want everyone else to be vaccinated since my kids are too young. Once my kids are vaccinated, I suppose I will have to decide if being around unvaccinated people pose any risk to us. Today that seems like it won't but who knows about new variants in the future.

If other people's vaccination status has no bearing on my health, then it may no longer matter. You don't want a vaccine? OK. But my family is protected.

It's complicated. The other unknown, ports that may require that all passengers on ships stopping there be vaccinated. My guess is Disney would have no trouble filling their ships even with a vaccine requirement.

 

[Freeman867]

Uploading vaccine cards? Nope. And let's be real, people are crossing the border without legal documents, they're not going to do anything.

So now we're comparing how the Federal Government handles immigration to how a private cruise line handles vaccinations. We're all over the place today.

My vaccine card has my name and birthday on it along with the 2 stickers of what vaccine I got and the lot number with the date I received them. We're not talking a ton of confidential information here, Disney already has a ton more on me from the information they need for me to sign up to take a cruise. Is it easily forged? Of course it is. For lack of a better way to manage this, Disney can attempt to cover their liability and shift it to the individual who lied about their vaccination record. There's no way to 100% verify the information isn't forged. But I don't think the answer is to throw your hands up and say I give up.

 

[RamblingMad]

So now we're comparing how the Federal Government handles immigration to how a private cruise line handles vaccinations. We're all over the place today.

My vaccine card has my name and birthday on it along with the 2 stickers of what vaccine I got and the lot number with the date I received them. We're not talking a ton of confidential information here, Disney already has a ton more on me from the information they need for me to sign up to take a cruise. Is it easily forged? Of course it is. For lack of a better way to manage this, Disney can attempt to cover their liability and shift it to the individual who lied about their vaccination record. There's no way to 100% verify the information isn't forged. But I don't think the answer is to throw your hands up and say I give up.

It’s really about whether or not you trust other people on your cruise. Almost 50% of the population is vaccinated, so you have a 50/50 chance as a worse case scenario if everyone lies and forges their records. Then, under that worse case scenario, do feel good to cruise?

As for the synergies between WDW and DCL, I doubt they’re huge given the cost of doing both. Temporarily doing cruises out of other ports seems reasonable in the short term.

 

[DCLMP]

Does anybody know when we might get a ruling from the judge from yesterdays' court case?

 

[mostlytraveling4food]

Does anybody know when we might get a ruling from the judge from yesterdays' court case?

Do you have a link to the docket?

Anyways, it won’t even matter. They’re gonna drop all restrictions and say if you’re unmasked on the ship, everyone is to assume you’re vaccinated, and can cruise normally.

No company is going to burden themselves more than the CDC requires. The abysmal jobs report last Friday is one of the pieces responsible for the sudden guidance update. Biden knows he has got to get jobs numbers up, and the only way to do that is to remove all restriction.


We’ve booked two cruises in two days. November ’21 on Disney Fantasy and September ’21 on Disney Dream

 

[HiStitch626]

It's complicated. The other unknown, ports that may require that all passengers on ships stopping there be vaccinated. My guess is Disney would have no trouble filling their ships even with a vaccine requirement.

I could see cruises out of Europe mandating this. The countries where DCL docks have national health services and a much easier way of tracking who is vaccinated.

And, to answer the original question - no way does DCL leave Florida. They are even expanding their presence at Port Canaveral.

 

[DCLMP]

Do you have a link to the docket?

Anyways, it won’t even matter. They’re gonna drop all restrictions and say if you’re unmasked on the ship, everyone is to assume you’re vaccinated, and can cruise normally.

No company is going to burden themselves more than the CDC requires. The abysmal jobs report last Friday is one of the pieces responsible for the sudden guidance update. Biden knows he has got to get jobs numbers up, and the only way to do that is to remove all restriction.


We’ve booked two cruises in two days. November ’21 on Disney Fantasy and September ’21 on Disney Dream

No, I don't have a link to the docket. I know there are people on here that are good at finding and interpreting that stuff. I don't pretend to be a lawyer. From what I've read the judge seemed receptive and he is a Florida resident appointed by Bush.

I'm feeling more optimistic about the resumption of cruising. I've cruised other lines and even though I've cruised on Disney 23 times I don't feel tied to them anymore. I'm really looking forward to our cruises on the Carnival Mardi Gras and Royal's Odyssey. These are two new ships that are just waiting to do their Maiden Voyages. I'm looking at Sept 2022 for a Disney cruise, Fantasy, Wish, or most likely the TA.

 

[Clojel]

No way. Disney can’t/wouldn’t require fully vaccinated ships anyway since a large part of the ship is children.

Maybe, maybe not... I think vaccines will be available for all ages before the year is out.