Why you think disney affraid to make any annoucemnet about cars/starwars land

[OKW Lover]

I'm kind of "amused" by the premise of the OP's thread title. "Why you think disney afraid to make any announcement about cars/starwars land".

I'm thinking they aren't "afraid" at all. They recognize that if they announce something big now that there will be some people who will delay a visit to WDW until its ready.

I also wouldn't expect them to announce anything concrete (like details of the new land or opening dates) until they have figured it out for themselves. I'm guessing there is a tug-of-war for construction funds between any future carsland/starwarsland/avatarland/whatever. Disney does not have unlimited financial resources and needs to prioritize any new land. That prioritizing would need to consider several factors; how badly a new land is needed for attendance purposes, how easily it can be constructed, how much money it will take to build, how far they are on ride engineering, and even what the thing is going to look like. Considerations like that. So perhaps there really isn't anything to announce right now.

 

[doconeill]

I'm kind of "amused" by the premise of the OP's thread title. "Why you think disney afraid to make any announcement about cars/starwars land".

I'm thinking they aren't "afraid" at all. They recognize that if they announce something big now that there will be some people who will delay a visit to WDW until its ready.

I also wouldn't expect them to announce anything concrete (like details of the new land or opening dates) until they have figured it out for themselves. I'm guessing there is a tug-of-war for construction funds between any future carsland/starwarsland/avatarland/whatever. Disney does not have unlimited financial resources and needs to prioritize any new land. That prioritizing would need to consider several factors; how badly a new land is needed for attendance purposes, how easily it can be constructed, how much money it will take to build, how far they are on ride engineering, and even what the thing is going to look like. Considerations like that. So perhaps there really isn't anything to announce right now.

Totally. Plus, more often than not, a corporation, Disney included, CAN'T announce anything until all the contracts are signed, and they at least have a definite plan to move forward. As I mentioned, legal stuff can preclude them from making an announcement. You don't say, "Hey, we're going to build this super cool roller coaster with this and that and the other thing...", without first getting the contract signed with the builders...otherwise you could find that the builders suddenly want a lot more money to build it...but you are stuck because you promised it already.

I've seen many movie deals die because of this.

 

[rteetz]

I'm kind of "amused" by the premise of the OP's thread title. "Why you think disney afraid to make any announcement about cars/starwars land".

I'm thinking they aren't "afraid" at all. They recognize that if they announce something big now that there will be some people who will delay a visit to WDW until its ready.

I also wouldn't expect them to announce anything concrete (like details of the new land or opening dates) until they have figured it out for themselves. I'm guessing there is a tug-of-war for construction funds between any future carsland/starwarsland/avatarland/whatever. Disney does not have unlimited financial resources and needs to prioritize any new land. That prioritizing would need to consider several factors; how badly a new land is needed for attendance purposes, how easily it can be constructed, how much money it will take to build, how far they are on ride engineering, and even what the thing is going to look like. Considerations like that. So perhaps there really isn't anything to announce right now.

Exactly on point, disney isn't going to announce something that they haven't figured out themselves. That's one point that not everyone in this thread is getting. You don't just announce a new thing just to announce it to catch up to universals announcements you announce when your ready and I just don't think disney is ready. I also believe that is because they're developing something new and thats why they need more time. Most of universals new rides have the same ride tech as other rides already developed disney doesn't like to do that they like to have new and exciting things. In order to do those things they need to design and go really in depth with those types of things. I agree also that disney doesn't haven't unlimited financial funds especially after the huge cost of buying lucasfilms. I think any new expansions in DHS will cost disney the same or more than new fantasy land has because disney wouldn't do any worse.

disney lover at heart

 

[disney david]

I'm kind of "amused" by the premise of the OP's thread title. "Why you think disney afraid to make any announcement about cars/starwars land".

I'm thinking they aren't "afraid" at all. They recognize that if they announce something big now that there will be some people who will delay a visit to WDW until its ready.

I also wouldn't expect them to announce anything concrete (like details of the new land or opening dates) until they have figured it out for themselves. I'm guessing there is a tug-of-war for construction funds between any future carsland/starwarsland/avatarland/whatever. Disney does not have unlimited financial resources and needs to prioritize any new land. That prioritizing would need to consider several factors; how badly a new land is needed for attendance purposes, how easily it can be constructed, how much money it will take to build, how far they are on ride engineering, and even what the thing is going to look like. Considerations like that. So perhaps there really isn't anything to announce right now.

Thanks glad my title and my opinion amused you

 

[disney david]

Fine Disney my not be afraid but their a reason to more hen they learned a lesson before or they have nothing to say they do have stuff to say they should be saying where not going to let universal gain one more inch on us. They shouldn't be living down like a wounded animal because harry potter doing so good and universal expanse ding it because they understand their response ability to their fans. They should be coming strong at them chewing up universal and spitting them out and well I guess they leave sea world alone. They are using tunnel vision they are just focused on the mine train attraction and not the future they was never like that yes they have made n ounce,net in the past that either has come true or as not as big as they said it was. But that still dose not mean to give up and let universal win and let your hard core and loyal fan down. With the cuts back we seen and raised prices I like to think that the money they saving is going towards projects and not iger pockets. Erroneous my not like Eisner but he took ten years and made a lot of things in wdw that we all like he understood the need to build more resort and theme parks to keep guest on property which lead to more moment for Disney. But know when a guest goes to Disney and has universal building new things faster then you can keep up with their more guest leaving Disney to go to universal.


Again if Disney who lead in innovation and what they done in the past can't come up with at least preliminary plans for Star Wars land or take something they already have in Dca and just rework it to fit dhs then they should just sell the parks to Comcast and call it a day.

 

[doconeill]

I'm sorry David, but that post is so full of assumptions...I'll just go with this for now.

I DON'T think Disney should be making an announcement right now. Universal just announced several things. Last time, when Universal announced WWOHP, Disney countered with FLE, and people were, well...underwhelmed. They reacted and failed. To do it again might again be seen as trying to one-up Universal again.

I think they are better served waiting, getting everything ready, and then make the big announcement, perhaps at D23 - which has also taken heat the past couple years for being rather vacuous and underwhelming.

If Universal then tried to jump the announcement with one beforehand, in front of a long-planned expo, THEY'LL be seen as trying to one-up, and unless they can pull an entire theme park out of thin air with it, the tables will likely have turned.

 

[disney david]

I'm sorry David, but that post is so full of assumptions...I'll just go with this for now.

I DON'T think Disney should be making an announcement right now. Universal just announced several things. Last time, when Universal announced WWOHP, Disney countered with FLE, and people were, well...underwhelmed. They reacted and failed. To do it again might again be seen as trying to one-up Universal again.

I think they are better served waiting, getting everything ready, and then make the big announcement, perhaps at D23 - which has also taken heat the past couple years for being rather vacuous and underwhelming.

If Universal then tried to jump the announcement with one beforehand, in front of a long-planned expo, THEY'LL be seen as trying to one-up, and unless they can pull an entire theme park out of thin air with it, the tables will likely have turned.

Yeah that fine but when Disney takes every step not to even talk about it or cancel things that they could of talked about other things it looks well at least to me in my opinion that they are a little afraid to pull the trigger. That the thing they canceled where they could of made the announcement at d23 even though they could of asked about other project they already announced that why I made this thread. Their was a lot of people expecting them to make some announcement at d23 like they did for fantasyland but they just canceled it. Unless they do a surprise event then we have to see if they just announce cars land which they had to be working on for a while then that fine Star Wars as people pointed out was just bought a year ago. Well right now universal winning and Disney has to start to play catch up they made two announcement avatar land and Disney springs we haven't seen that much progress from either. Disney should just admit avatar land was a mistake and is scale it back and try to rework the deal to something mother can work with.

 

[doconeill]

Yeah that fine but when Disney takes every step not to even talk about it or cancel things that they could of talked about other things it looks well at least to me in my opinion that they are a little afraid to pull the trigger. That the thing they canceled where they could of made the announcement at d23 even though they could of asked about other project they already announced that why I made this thread. Their was a lot of people expecting them to make some announcement at d23 like they did for fantasyland but they just canceled it. Unless they do a surprise event then we have to see if they just announce cars land which they had to be working on for a while then that fine Star Wars as people pointed out was just bought a year ago. Well right now universal winning and Disney has to start to play catch up they made two announcement avatar land and Disney springs we haven't seen that much progress from either. Disney should just admit avatar land was a mistake and is scale it back and try to rework the deal to something mother can work with.

I'm sorry, what did they cancel? D23 hasn't happened yet.

 

[disney david]

I'm sorry, what did they cancel? D23 hasn't happened yet.

They canceled the parks and resort segment not sure why but they had other project they could have talked about. It their event so they could at anytime hold something and announce something but to cancel something they used to announce fantsyland the last time is strange.

 

[OKW Lover]

Thanks glad my title and my opinion amused you

Thank you very much for that. Sometimes on the boards I've seen people take their posts much too seriously.

 

[disney david]

Thank you very much for that. Sometimes on the boards I've seen people take their posts much too seriously.

You have to have a sense of humor sometimes and remember that we are talking about disney so we have to stay magical.

 

[Golf4283]

I really only read the first page but just wanted to weigh in on the "announcement" of a new park or land or whatever.

I really don't understand what is gained by just announcing something. If Iger comes out and says "we're building star wars land" is that really going to stop the rumors and make everyone happy? No probably not but it'll just lead to more speculation as a previous poster said.

If Disney goes through and comes up with sketches, maps, and drawings of a star wars land but it takes another year before they announce it I would personally be happier to have waited because now I can see their ideas and I don't have to guess and speculate for a year.

I guess I just don't understand why people want to rush to the "next big thing" or the what is the the next park, etc. Why can't we just enjoy what is there for now? When they announce something new then that's great but don't just hang on for the next thing or you're gonna miss out on what's there.

It's like with automobile manufacturers or even phones. If apple comes out and tells us "iphone 6 is coming out at somepoint".... Whoop dee doo who cares. But if they wait and develop and test the phone and can show me the actual unit on the day they announce it then I'm going crazy and wanting to buy it. Also to the point where if they jhust say "iphone 6 is coming out at somepoint" then the iphone 5 sales will go down the tubes. Disney has to protect their current investment and keep guests coming.

Just my $.02.

 

[disney david]

I really only read the first page but just wanted to weigh in on the "announcement" of a new park or land or whatever.

I really don't understand what is gained by just announcing something. If Iger comes out and says "we're building star wars land" is that really going to stop the rumors and make everyone happy? No probably not but it'll just lead to more speculation as a previous poster said.

If Disney goes through and comes up with sketches, maps, and drawings of a star wars land but it takes another year before they announce it I would personally be happier to have waited because now I can see their ideas and I don't have to guess and speculate for a year.

I guess I just don't understand why people want to rush to the "next big thing" or the what is the the next park, etc. Why can't we just enjoy what is there for now? When they announce something new then that's great but don't just hang on for the next thing or you're gonna miss out on what's there.

It's like with automobile manufacturers or even phones. If apple comes out and tells us "iphone 6 is coming out at somepoint".... Whoop dee doo who cares. But if they wait and develop and test the phone and can show me the actual unit on the day they announce it then I'm going crazy and wanting to buy it. Also to the point where if they jhust say "iphone 6 is coming out at somepoint" then the iphone 5 sales will go down the tubes. Disney has to protect their current investment and keep guests coming.

Just my $.02.

Your right nothing will be gained but letting rumors go on and on is not gaining anything either maybe announcing something will put the rumor to bed and let Disney dictate what going on and not other web sites.

 

[Golf4283]

but how is letting the rumors go on and on hurting them? Isn't the old addage any PR is good PR?

Maybe to the hardcore Disney Parks fan the rumors will be annoying because they just want to know, but to the average Joe park goer he doesn't even know there are rumors. This board is dedicated to Disney "fanatics" so we're all the hardcore Disney Parks fans most likely.

Tell me this. If Star Wars Land/Cars Land/Avatar Land never get built in Disney World how would the negative opinion holders view Disney after having never succumbed to answering any of the rumors? They would probably move on to being mad about the parks never being built instead of understanding that Disney is telling them the truth. You just can't please everyone I guess.

 

[disney david]

but how is letting the rumors go on and on hurting them? Isn't the old addage any PR is good PR?

Maybe to the hardcore Disney Parks fan the rumors will be annoying because they just want to know, but to the average Joe park goer he doesn't even know there are rumors. This board is dedicated to Disney "fanatics" so we're all the hardcore Disney Parks fans most likely.

Tell me this. If Star Wars Land/Cars Land/Avatar Land never get built in Disney World how would the negative opinion holders view Disney after having never succumbed to answering any of the rumors? They would probably move on to being mad about the parks never being built instead of understanding that Disney is telling them the truth. You just can't please everyone I guess.

yes your right good pr is good but some rumors was saying which attration they was thinking of taking out which then in turn cause anger. your right you can't please everyone but sometimes if they try to please their fan base instead of the shareholders then people wouldn't be so unhappy when things don't get done. and your right the average joe won't know but the diser will the ones that buy aps the ones that go more then once a year the ones that spend tons of money on merchindise will know. i go to disney 3-4 times a year and it be nice to know they have plans to build new things.

This is tom staggs time to shine he wants to be the next ceo what better way to show the hard core fans he has the know how to run this company. and just annouce already it who cares if iger be happy if it wasn't for him the mine cars wouldn't of happened.

 

[Golf4283]

In the 40 years that WDW has been around have they ever stopped building new rides, parks, etc? No. What makes you think they will now. Just because they don't announce it the second they come up with the idea doesn't mean they aren't working on it.

It seems that most people's attitudes nowadays are we want it and we want it now. I think that social media plays a key role in this as we can see by this message board it's a way for you and I to get together from 5-6 states away to discuss something and offer different opinions on it.

How did Disney used to announce expansions? I'm only 28 and can't remember too far back but we would only hear when we were visiting what was the next upcoming expansion or ride etc. I guess they would put out a press release to the A/P or something but back in the early 90's there were no internet announcements or internet anything for that matter. We just waited until ground broke or we listened to bus driver's rumors.

Also if you go 3-4 times a year that's a lot and good for you. Wish I had the time/money to go more often. You should consider yourself very lucky.

 

[Golf4283]

Also if Disney were to have a press conference and just say "to all our hardcore fans out there we have stuff in the works for new rides, resorts, and all kinds of fun stuff" would you be pleased with that? That's like calling oxygen a good thing. We already know it. Like I said above Disney has never stopped expanding and innovating. Why do they have to announce it to us?

 

[disney david]

In the 40 years that WDW has been around have they ever stopped building new rides, parks, etc? No. What makes you think they will now. Just because they don't announce it the second they come up with the idea doesn't mean they aren't working on it.

It seems that most people's attitudes nowadays are we want it and we want it now. I think that social media plays a key role in this as we can see by this message board it's a way for you and I to get together from 5-6 states away to discuss something and offer different opinions on it.

How did Disney used to announce expansions? I'm only 28 and can't remember too far back but we would only hear when we were visiting what was the next upcoming expansion or ride etc. I guess they would put out a press release to the A/P or something but back in the early 90's there were no internet announcements or internet anything for that matter. We just waited until ground broke or we listened to bus driver's rumors.

Also if you go 3-4 times a year that's a lot and good for you. Wish I had the time/money to go more often. You should consider yourself very lucky.

i do now i am lucky and not trying to make people feel bad their small trips most of the time. and if they don't build it then fine don't build it but with every site reporting things and all they say is their nothing to report. If they didn't want to build it or if the rumors are not true then say we are not doing another cars land and right now star wars land is not going to happen. i don't care i still go wheater they build it or not or if they ever build anything new again. yes now a days with twitter and fan sites like this rumor spread quicker and things get leaked out back in the day disney could plan stuff with out people hearing rumors or knowing anything.


i know twitter and fan sites hurt the bus driver rumor mill so they have to try harder to get the juicy stuff. Maybe they should all get a twitter account like @disneybusdrivers and they could all post the rumors on their and regain their power.

 

[disney david]

Also if Disney were to have a press conference and just say "to all our hardcore fans out there we have stuff in the works for new rides, resorts, and all kinds of fun stuff" would you be pleased with that? That's like calling oxygen a good thing. We already know it. Like I said above Disney has never stopped expanding and innovating. Why do they have to announce it to us?

Yes i would be very pleased if IGER and STAGGS would do a press conference and say to "are hard core fans we hear you and have new thing in the works". Instead of IGER saying to the shareholders don't worry we not going to spend money on big projects for awhile after cars land opened.

 

[WIDisneyFan]

After reading over this thread 2 thoughts come to mind....

#1 The DIS is NOT a great sample of the thoughts, concerns, and ideas of the broader general public. We (and I do include myself in the list) tend to be the more obsessive, over the top need to know everything Disney fan, and what we want as far as information on new lands and/or attractions is far more that most people would care to know.

#2 There is no upside for Disney to make an announcement. Any announcement would only server to limit their options moving forward. In addition to that there are still many people that are just learning about the FLE, so still life left in that for the more casual Disney fan.