Why would you choose not to be an organ donor?

If someone really felt strongly about it, one most likely could draw up a directive, just like one that allowed harvesting of only certain organs, that said that you would only donate to another registered donor match or spouse of an organ donor or a child or whatever criteria you want set for your organs. Your organs, your rules. They may choose not to use them then, but at least your organs won't be used by somebody that you would not feel comfortable donating to.

FWIW, I am an organ donor with no stipulations. Would I prefer a child or a family that believes in giving back? Of course. I cannot fathom the mindset having your child dying and accepting an organ and then denying another person the same hope and joy. However, I will be dead, so I will trust the transplant team to determine who is the best recipient for my organs, whether they are donors, drug addicts or whomever.
 
If someone really felt strongly about it, one most likely could draw up a directive, just like one that allowed harvesting of only certain organs, that said that you would only donate to another registered donor match or spouse of an organ donor or a child or whatever criteria you want set for your organs. Your organs, your rules. They may choose not to use them then, but at least your organs won't be used by somebody that you would not feel comfortable donating to.

FWIW, I am an organ donor with no stipulations. Would I prefer a child or a family that believes in giving back? Of course. I cannot fathom the mindset having your child dying and accepting an organ and then denying another person the same hope and joy. However, I will be dead, so I will trust the transplant team to determine who is the best recipient for my organs, whether they are donors, drug addicts or whomever.

Actually, there's an organization that tries to do just that - match organ donors with others willing to donate as well. I don't know if the same criteria applies, for example I don't want to donate heart or eyes, but would donate other organs, so am I excluded from the same? At any rate, here is the link for anyone wishing to stipulate registered organ-donor to another registered organ-donor anatomical gift: http://www.lifesharers.org/howitworks.aspx
 
I'm not arguing anything, I'm discussing the fact that some of you feel that those who don't donate but take are selfish.

I think that while someone is waiting on that table for your organs that you agreed to donate, and you saying sorry not going to happen is all of those things. That person can't be waiting for something that someone never promised to give :confused3

I'm not saying "sorry not going to happen" I'm dead. But the person on the table is most certainly a hypocrite. According to them, organ donation is fine, but only if it doesn't inconvenience them. That is selfish plain and simple.

I can certainly see people having serious objections to it. But its a two way street. If they want to take, they have to get unselfish and give.
 

I'm not saying "sorry not going to happen" I'm dead. But the person on the table is most certainly a hypocrite. According to them, organ donation is fine, but only if it doesn't inconvenience them. That is selfish plain and simple.

I can certainly see people having serious objections to it. But its a two way street. If they want to take, they have to get unselfish and give.

Actually they don't ;)
 
They do if the only match available is part of the organziation that NikitaZee linked to.

That organization makes it possible for those types who donate with stipulations but luckily there are more people who don't feel that its a requirement that you sign up to donate in order to get one of their organs.

How does that organization work, if you sign up and agree to only give to other members does that mean you would only take from members? I sure hope so, it seems a bit hypocritical to take from all but only give to some right?
 
That organization makes it possible for those types who donate with stipulations but luckily there are more people who don't feel that its a requirement that you sign up to donate in order to get one of their organs.

How does that organization work, if you sign up and agree to only give to other members does that mean you would only take from members? I sure hope so, it seems a bit hypocritical to take from all but only give to some right?

From the site, it says that it goes to a non member if their isn't a member high enough on the list to receive or if the transplant center (of the proposed recipient) rejects the organ.

I'd never heard of them before. Not sure if they exist here.
 
New England Organ Bank Frequently Asked Questions (probably typical for most areas).

Question:
How do I become an organ and tissue donor?

Answer
There are a number of ways to become an organ and tissue donor.
The best and easiest way to become a donor is to sign up online. Just go to www.DonateLifeNewEngland.org and register.

Also, if your state's motor vehicle department offers you the option to become a donor, that is another way to make your wishes known and to have them respected after you die as it will include you in that state's Donor Registry - which is legal consent for both organ and tissue donation.

Carrying a signed donor card is another way to indicate your consent for donation. Also, share your decision to donate with your family so that your family knows about your interest in becoming an organ and tissue donor.

If you are from Massachusetts, you can now change the donor designation on your driver's license or ID card at any time. Sign up to be a donor by clicking here. It's fast, free, and easy.

If you are in Connecticut, you can now change your driver's license donor designation in between renewals with a form provided online. Here is a direct link to that form from the CT DMV. NEOB is currently working with other DMV's in the region to offer the ability to sign up to a donor registry in between renewal periods.

Question:
Who can donate?

Answer:
People of all ages may be eligible to donate organs and tissues. Your medical condition at the time of death will determine what organs and tissues can be donated.

People who have died by brain death criteria, cessation of brain function usually due to a traumatic injury or stroke, can often donate organs and tissue unless there are other reasons for a medical rule-out. Patients who die after the cessation of heart and lung function following a family's decision to withdraw ventilatory support can also be considered for organ donation - this is referred to as Donation After Cardiac Death (DCD).

Tissue donation is different from organ donation in that many more people are likely to be eligible for tissue donation. Tissue can be recovered from donors up to 24 hours after death has be determined by either brain death or cardiac death criteria.


Question:
What can be donated?

Answer:
Heart, lungs, kidneys, pancreas, liver, small bowel, bone and associated tendons, blood vessels, heart valves, skin and corneas. Organs are allocated through the United Network for Organ Sharing. Tissues recovered by NEOB are first processed for safety and preservation purposes before they are transplanted. Tissue recovered by NEOB are processed by: LifeNet, Tissue Banks International, LifeCell, and CryoLife.

Question:
What about donating organs and tissues for use in research?

Answer:

Organs and tissues from Donor Registry consented donors are only recovered for the purpose of the transplantation. Should information come to light after the recovery procedure to indicate that an organ or tissue is not suitable for transplantation, an effort will be made to place the organ or tissue in an approved research protocol.


Question:
Why aren't there enough organs to meet the need?

Answer:
Over time, transplants have become more successful and more people have been added to the national waiting list. However, the numbers of donors has not grown as fast as the number of people that need organs and tissue. Every day, 18 people in the United States die waiting for organ transplants. Every 11 minutes another person's name is added to the list of thousands who await lifesaving organ transplants. Currently, there are over 101,000 total patients waiting for a transplant in the United States. Thousands more await life enhancing tissue transplants.



Question:
Where can I get more statistics and data about donation and transplants?

Answer:
The best source for statistics comes from the data section of the Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network.


Question:
If I donate, will my body be disfigured so that I won't be able to have a normal funeral?

Answer:
Donated organs and tissues are removed surgically. Careful attention is made so that an open casket funeral is still an option if that is the person's choice. You can still receive a traditional burial or cremation if you donate.


Question:
Will it cost my family anything to donate?

Answer:
Organ and tissue donation is completely free. A donor's family is not charged for donation.


Question:
Will the quality of my medical care be compromised if I sign a donor card?

Answer:
If you are sick or injured, the number one priority of the medical team is to save your life. Organ and tissue donation can be pursued only after all efforts to save your life have failed, after you are declared dead and after your family has been consulted.


Question:
What major religious organizations in the United States support organ and tissue donation?

Answer:
Religious groups including Protestant, Catholic and Jewish faiths support organ and tissue donation as a charitable gift of life consistent with the basic tenets of their faiths.


Question:
Does a patient who is rich or influential receive special consideration in organ distribution?

Answer:
Although celebrities get most of the media attention, the fact is that thousands of other patients receive donated organs as well. Donor organs are matched to recipients based on blood and tissue type, geographic location and medical urgency. Organ allocation is blind to wealth or social status. Further, factors such as race, gender, age or celebrity status are not considered when determining who receives an organ.


Question:
How long do you have to wait for an organ?

Answer:
There is no set amount of time, and there is no way to know how long a patient must wait to receive a donor organ. Factors that affect waiting times are patient medical status, the availability of donors in the local area and the level of match between the donor and the recipient. Don't forget that listing practices also affect wait times. Some physicians and programs list many patients, even those not yet ready for donation. Others list very conservatively. Organs are usually first made available to the sickest patients in the region where the organ was donated. If there is no medical match in that area, then the organ is offered to patients in a broader geographic area.


Question:
What are organ procurement organizations (OPOs)?

Answer:
OPOs are organizations that coordinate activities relating to organ procurement in a designated service area. Evaluating potential donors, discussing donation with family members, and arranging for the surgical removal of donated organs are some of their primary functions. OPOs are also responsible for making arrangements for the organs' distribution according to national organ sharing policies. In addition, OPOs provide information and education to medical professionals and the general public to encourage organ and tissue donation.


Question:
What are the steps involved in organ donation and transplantation?

Answer:
Hospitals notify the Organ Procurement Organization of the impending death of a patient. The OPO staff makes an initial determination about medical disqualifications for organ and tissue donation, and if there are none immediately apparent a trained donation professional goes to the hospital to further evaluate the patient and offer donation to the next of kin if the patient has not already consented to donation through a donor card or through a motor vehicle office. Using the national computerized waiting list, OPO staff match the donated organs with the most appropriate recipient(s) and arrange for the recovery surgery. They also stay with the donor's family and provide support as long as the family wishes. Immediately after the organ(s) are surgically removed from the donor, the OPO staff transports the organs to the transplant centers, where the recipients have been readied for surgery.


Question:
How are recipients matched to donor organs?

Answer:
Persons waiting for transplants are listed by the transplant center where they plan to have surgery on a national computerized waiting list of potential transplants patients in the United States. Under contract with the Health Resources and Services Administration, the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS) located in Richmond, Virginia maintains a 24-hour telephone service to aid in matching donor organs with patients on the national waiting list and to coordinate efforts with transplant centers. When donor organs become available, the OPO that recovered the organs provides UNOS with information about the medical characteristics of the donor and specific organs, including medical compatibility between the donor and potential recipient(s) on such characteristics as blood type, weight, and age; as well as the recipients' urgency of need; and length of time on waiting list. Also, preference is generally given to recipients from the same geographic area as the donor, because timing is a critical element in the success of transplants.


Question:
Why should minorities be particularly concerned about organ donation?

Answer:
Minorities suffer end-stage renal disease (ESRD), a very serious life-threatening kidney disease, much more frequently than do whites. Asian Americans are three times more likely than whites to develop ESRD; Hispanics are three times as likely; and blacks are twice as likely as whites to develop ESRD. ESRD is treatable with dialysis but dialysis can result in a poor quality of life for the patient. The preferred treatment of ESRD is kidney transplantation. Transplantation offers the patient freedom from dialysis to lead a more normal life and can successfully cure ESRD for many years. As with any transplant procedures, it is very important to assure a close match between donor and recipient blood types and genetic make-up. Members of different racial and ethnic groups are usually more genetically similar to members of their own group than they are to others. (For example, blacks are usually more genetically similar to other blacks than they are to whites.) It is important, therefore, to increase the minority donor pool so that good matches can be made as frequently as possible for minority patients.


Question:
Who pays for transplant surgery?

Answer:
Most transplants are paid for by private health insurance, Medicare or Medicaid programs. Patients can get detailed information from their physicians or health insurers.


Question:
Where can I get more information about organ and tissue donation?

Answer:
If you would like more information about organ and tissue donation and transplantation, please call the New England Organ Bank at (800) 446-6362. You can also visit the website of the United Network for Organ Sharing at www.unos.org This site contains up-to-date statistical information, and links to government agencies and other transplant-related organizations.



Question:
How can I make a monetary donation to New England Organ Bank.

Answer:
Use this form to make a monetary donation.


Contact us for more info or to request a donor card.
 
There's just no way to prove that. Even if everyone around you dropped dead and donated their organs doesn't mean ANY of them would be a match to you. Heck, you might be sick that day, and unable to accept a donation (like what often happens, at least with liver transplants), no matter how good the match was. Would it be more likely? Sure. Is it an absolute? It simply cannot be.
I think you're confusing two aspects of the issue. Nobody's talking about someone they know dying so they or someone they know who needs an organ can get it from that person. The discussion is much more general - if NOBODY who dies is an organ donor, then NOBODY who needs an organ will get one. There are already multi-year waits for organs for a variety of reasons; if there were NO donors, then NO potential recipient would GET a needed organ, and would die.
 
My older family members swear up and down that doctors will choose to kill you JUST TO TAKE your organs. They went crazy when I turned 16 and got that little heart on my license.
 
I friend of mine,a nurse, approved for here mother to be a donor. Her mother died in a car accident.
This was a very big mistake for her. After many years she is still convinced she "killed" her own mother.
Her mother was warm, breathing and "alive" when she was rolled away. This idea is eating her for years.
I'm glad I don't have to decide on that subject.
 
That organization makes it possible for those types who donate with stipulations but luckily there are more people who don't feel that its a requirement that you sign up to donate in order to get one of their organs.
How does that organization work, if you sign up and agree to only give to other members does that mean you would only take from members? I sure hope so, it seems a bit hypocritical to take from all but only give to some right?

Yes, I agree. If someone awaiting a transplant is 'higher up' on the waiting list, they are given first priority for any matching organ, whether they're signed up with that organization or not. Rightly so. Also, the United Network for Organ Sharing does not endorse this organization - they simply do not interfere with them as long as the donor's stipulations don't interfere with state law.
 
Yes, I agree. If someone awaiting a transplant is 'higher up' on the waiting list, they are given first priority for any matching organ, whether they're signed up with that organization or not. Rightly so. Also, the United Network for Organ Sharing does not endorse this organization - they simply do not interfere with them as long as the donor's stipulations don't interfere with state law.

The members of this organization are no better than those who people are calling "selfish". They are willing to take from anyone (and I'm not blaming them) yet they are only willing to donate to a certain few. This is really no different but because its under the guise of helping those like minded its acceptable to them?. :confused3
For those DISer who feel that non-donor/takers are selfish, do you see any difference in what these types of organizations do?
 
I asked DH what he wanted me to do with him when he dies. He is convinced he is going first and medically he has many ailments so it's not unforseeable. He told me he didn't care what I did with him as he was dead and wouldn't give a crap anymore.

So I told DH that when he died I was donating everything on him that they wanted and then his body is going to science. And once I got his ashes back I was taking a Disney Cruise and sprinkling his ashes overboard (of course with their permission first). He wasn't thrilled with my idea. :lmao: I tried to convince him that the cruise would help DD and I get over our grief faster. :rotfl: :rolleyes1
 
I'm not and the only reason I can give you is fear. I am terrified of dying and don't even like to think about it. To me, that's just acknowledging that someday I won't be here, and I prefer the stick-your-head-in-the-sand method.

I do think it's a wonderful thing and would love to do it.

That is exactly how I feel.
 
My husband is a physician and he says they would work hard to save your life whether you're an organ donor or not. Actually, he said they don't even know if you're an organ donor when they're working on you.

My sis is a nurse and has worked in E.R. and as a Surg Tech nurse. She said the exact same thing.

All of our family embraces organ donation. DH and I have already said we want to donate our bodies to science. Actually, we are all very excited about the prospect of helping someone else. It seems to give meaning to our lives, rather than frightening or distressing us. I hope more folks can come to see it in that way, but I try to be understanding if they don't feel comfortable.

I like the question, "would you refuse a donation, yourself?" to those who don't want to donate. I think it's a fair question.
 
Here is another side to a multi-faceted situation.

I was once the sole decision maker on organ donation for a person who was brain dead as a result of a motor vehicle accident. A young, strong person (26 years old) who was not a drug user, not a person who had engaged in any form of high risk (health wise) behavior, etc.

When I asked about organ donation, as the brain dead person did want to be an organ donor, the hospital made no action to have the organs accepted for donation. They actually acted as if it were no big deal, and that it was too much trouble.

So, if you do want to be an organ donor, you'd better hope you are dying in a hospital that cooperates, or your good intentions will not come to fruition.

As an aside, as for the blood donation, and not allowing gay men to donate, that is beyond ridiculous at this point. Promiscuous heterosexuals are not so discriminated against.

Also, it is a commonly held belief that ignorance can be educated away. That is not necessarily true. Any legitimate fear can be educated away, but many people refuse to be educated and instead cling to their beliefs regardless of how wrong or damaging those beliefs are.
 
Here is another side to a multi-faceted situation.

I was once the sole decision maker on organ donation for a person who was brain dead as a result of a motor vehicle accident. A young, strong person (26 years old) who was not a drug user, not a person who had engaged in any form of high risk (health wise) behavior, etc.

When I asked about organ donation, as the brain dead person did want to be an organ donor, the hospital made no action to have the organs accepted for donation. They actually acted as if it were no big deal, and that it was too much trouble.

So, if you do want to be an organ donor, you'd better hope you are dying in a hospital that cooperates, or your good intentions will not come to fruition.

As an aside, as for the blood donation, and not allowing gay men to donate, that is beyond ridiculous at this point. Promiscuous heterosexuals are not so discriminated against.

Also, it is a commonly held belief that ignorance can be educated away. That is not necessarily true. Any legitimate fear can be educated away, but many people refuse to be educated and instead cling to their beliefs regardless of how wrong or damaging those beliefs are.

I haven't donated blood for years, because my veins roll and some nurses have a rule about trying the other arm. Personally, I don't its beyond ridiculous to not allow gay men to donate. But I've always thought that promiscuous straight ppl should be shown the same door. They can get STDs too.

As for the organ donation I'm registered as a donor, what do I care once I'm gone. Now the cremation thing still somewhat creeps me out. As does being buried in the ground. i used to swear I'd only be buried in a Mausoleum because i didn't want to be "buried alive" Now i know that since I'm catholic I don't have to worry about any of that. Still not sure how I want to be laid to rest but the mausoleum has been ruled out due to the expense:rotfl:
 
For those of you who think that "Organ Donation" is a "personal" choice or for those of you who are just simply against donating their organs, PLEASE read this story. This is the reality of the shortage of Organ Donors in our country http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...4/09/youth-finally-rejects-heart.html?sid=101
Why WOULDN'T someone be an ORGAN DONOR???? Other than for selfish reasons.... honestly...if you look up the definition of "selfish" it says " seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others" How is that not true? :confused3 I'm honestly not trying to point fingers and judge...just calling it like it is.


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