Why the extension at OKW only?

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Why did Disney offer an extension on available for OKW only. I under that they are the first and oldest resort, but the expiration date was set at 2042 like the others except SSR and AKV, correct?

Why offer an extension now and not around 2042 and why not offer extensions for the others?

The extension was only $15.00 per point, correct?

At 200-300 points, a 12 year extension would cost you $3,000 - $4,500. That seems pretty cheap for 12 additional years of vacations.
 
Most likely they're 'testing the waters' and are using OKW since it's the earliest resort.

As for the 'value', there has been a number of posts analyzing it every way there is. As to whether it's 'cheap' or not is 100% influenced by how you handle the time-value of money.

Paying $4000 now for something you won't even see for 34 years has it's price. If you put that $4000 into an investment that returned the average of the market for 34 years, then you'd wind up with $55,000.
 
Excellent point!

You could independently vacation pretty nicely for those additional 12 years if you had the 55K that you came up.
 
Personally, I think they think the OKW owners are a bit senile and will bite on anything. ;)
 

Why offer an extension now and not around 2042 and why not offer extensions for the others?

Rumor is that DVC was having to exercise ROFR more and more on OKW contracts, and that there wasn't much of a market to re-sell the points. Now they can sell the points as full 50-year contracts.

Having been around these boards a long time it's fair to say that some owners have expressed an interest in extending. Of course it's hard telling how the numbers were impacted by Disney's price point. As others alluded to, I think most people anticipated paying less for something they can't use for another 34-35 years.

As for the other resorts, I can think of at least two reasons why they have not been similarly extended:

1. BCV, BWV and VWL are all combined DVC and cash resorts. Extending those contracts beyond 2042 would require the cooperation of the Parks and Resorts division. And right now they may be unwilling to commit to keeping the resorts in place beyond 2042.

As much as some of us may consider those locations to be iconic Disney properties, they aren't going to stand forever. Whether it's 40 years from now or 140 years, Disney will eventually demolish and re-build most of their resorts so that they can continue giving guests the sort of fresh, modern accommodations they expect given the premium prices charged.

2. If the primary motivation for the extension was to encourage add-on and new sales at OKW, the other resorts just don't need that boost. DVC typically has to maintain a waiting list for add-on points at BCV, BWV and VWL. If Disney simply lets the contracts expire on 2042 and intends to keep the resorts open as-is for another 50 years, they will have little trouble reselling the points at market prices.

That's not to say that we won't see extensions at the others. It certainly could still happen. But given their popularity, I'm guessing the price point would be even higher than OKW to extend.
 
I think you'll be seeing the same offer to BWV owners soon followed by BCV then WLV ( basicly the same order they were built ).
 
Mike©;23752411 said:
I think you'll be seeing the same offer to BWV owners soon followed by BCV then WLV ( basicly the same order they were built ).

VWL before BCV. VWL came first of the two.
 
Mike© said:
I think you'll be seeing the same offer to BWV owners soon followed by BCV then WLV ( basicly the same order they were built ).

Deb & Bill said:
VWL before BCV. VWL came first of the two.

... and BWV was preceeded by VB and HH.

Stay tuned!
 
Why did Disney offer an extension on available for OKW only. I under that they are the first and oldest resort, but the expiration date was set at 2042 like the others except SSR and AKV, correct?

Why offer an extension now and not around 2042 and why not offer extensions for the others?

The extension was only $15.00 per point, correct?

At 200-300 points, a 12 year extension would cost you $3,000 - $4,500. That seems pretty cheap for 12 additional years of vacations.

Actually I believe it was a 15 year extension, to expire in 2057.
 
I think tjkraz is probably right. OKW could not support a decent price along with its orginal expiration - BWV/BCV and VWL are still managing to sell new contracts with a shorter term for MORE than VAKL and SSR. If Disney was going to support VAKL and SSR sales via ROFR, they had to boost the OKW price. Easiest way to do that, make them competitive in terms of contract length with SSR and VAKL. They'll still ROFR a bunch of original contracts, tack fifteen years on them which they can do for functionally free, and then resell them as new contracts.
 
1. BCV, BWV and VWL are all combined DVC and cash resorts. Extending those contracts beyond 2042 would require the cooperation of the Parks and Resorts division. And right now they may be unwilling to commit to keeping the resorts in place beyond 2042.

This may be the most probable reason that I have come across so far.
 



















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