There most certainly is a way to do a statistical analysis on the room occupancies at the various DVC resorts, it just has not been done by either side of those throwing around the demands for official DVC sanctioned info.Originally posted by SimbaCub
One thing to keep in mind, and yes I do work with statistics on a day to day basis, the largest number of room right now is at OKW. Thus, it doesn't take much if just a "few" members trade out or book rooms at other DVC resorts before a large number of rooms becomes available. PamOKW is correct in her explanation--I don't know if I could have explained quite so well so you deserve a pat on the back!! To state that the resort is underutilized is mixing apples and oranges--a pet peeve of mine when people who do NOT know how to make statistical analysis of an issue try to do this to prove a point--because the cause and effect relationships do not exist. Would that explain why both BWV and BCV still have openings for next May? They too are being underutilized? No, it would not.
As for some of DeePs "issues" with statements about BWV, I have stayed there only 3 times and have never been "near" the elevator but at the end of the hall. When I returned after a long day in the parks that walk did feel like 5 miles--especially right after knee surgery. Then again, on my 4 stays at one of my home resorts of OKW walking up the stairs felt like I was climbing Mt Everest so the same thing can be said about both of those resorts: At the end of the day unless you have a room right by the elevator AND the elevator is not too far away, it will ALWAYS feel like a long walk/hike to your room. Regarding trash in the hallways at BWV, I don't mean any offense so please don't take it this way, BUT I have only seen trash outside the rooms at BWV. NEVER at any of my 3 stays at VWL or my 4 trips to OKW or my 2 trips to HHI. Now, does this mean I won't stay there? No, but given I have stayed only 3 times at BWV out of my 12 visits on points--this amounts to 25% of my visits by the way--I cannot say whether or not this is a normal condition. Given the number of stays members have had in the same number of years I have stayed, I would state I don't have the "statistical" confidence to say that BWV looks "trashy" because of the trash outside the doors even though I have seen it there each visit. It would require a lot of data gathering and to be honest, I don't have the time nor do I have the inclination to gather the right amount of data to provide my fellow DVC owners that statistic--sorry folks but that would be a lot of data!! Still, take it with a grain of salt because only those items we DVC owners see that we don't expect to see due to our high standards makes it on these boards. I have never thought to look at the other resorts but if people feel it's a problem then tell DVC management.
I will be taking friends to BCV next May to see that resort as I have not stayed there yet. I do like to try out the other resorts though most of my trips have been to my 2 home resorts. I bought points there to ensure I could stay there during peak times. In addition, only BWV and OKW were open when I bought OKW so there were no other options for people to stay at hence the reason BWV had been so heavily booked at the beginning--the newness and the sheer number of members who owned at OKW. For those of you who have BWV as your home resort, be happy BWV is booked, it means people like to visit your home resort!! Me, I like the idea that if I make a last minute trip I know I can most likely get into OKW. Shh, it's a little secret a lot of people don't realize!! A trip to WDW is better than no trip at all, right?
And for those who doubt the fact I was told I "stole a room from a BWV owner" by booking at the 7 month point, rest assured this incident did indeed occur in May 02. I still feel this member was the rare one in voicing this opinion but it did and still does sting. Keep in mind that many of us do have strong opinions about our home resorts but that doesn't give us the right to insult each other or make accusations like the one I had.
Please, remember if you are going to use statistics to use them properly because it gives those of us who work in the business a bad name when you brandish numbers all over the place without knowing how to use them. I would never dream of telling people how to put a filling on a tooth when I am not a dentist, I leave that to Doc!!
SimbaCub
2 Days Until VWL
As far as a dentist and getting a tooth filled.......how is that relevant to anything on this board or dealing with a DVC membership???????????????
Thank you for crediting me with all the "issues" from this thread but there were many others who have posted on this thread with "issues" than just me, BUT thank you for remembering me, it makes me feel soooooooo special.
I do not have "issues" with people getting annoyed at finding trash at BWV or any resort, what I do get annoyed with is people referring to BWV owners as slobs, stupid, embarrassed, etc. There is no need for name calling, nor is there any need for blatent lies like: the halls are 5 miles long, the rooms are so small they are essentially useless, etc. etc.
