Why it still acceptable....

From what I can gather from the responses to this thread, it is acceptable to criticize people about being overweight because the pounds are something they can control. They don't control their weight because, among other things, they are lazy and/or they don't have common sense because they aren't adults with functioning brains, etc. Therefore, anyone else can pass judgment, make rude remarks, etc.

Personally, I think it's acceptable because it's a quick and easy way to boost one's own self-esteem by critizing those that are considered different. Or those that aren't perceived to be playing by the rules. And there's never a shortage of "different". It's the never-ending "junior high school cafteria" mentality.
 
I agree with you, I remember once when the whole size 0 thing was happening some media outlet's were saying about how fat Pink was...and she is skinny. Another example is Amanda Palmer, her label asked her to remove a part in her music video where you can see her bellybutton because her belly wasn't marketable (something about it being abit to big) but the woman is extremely skinny and they had no problem when in her last video she was lying with her back to the camera completely naked in another video.

:sad2: That's just crazy - I don't even know what I would say if a record label said my tummy wasn't "marketable" - it's probably not Dis-appropriate. :rotfl:

A few months ago, my aunt bought one of the rag magazines and showed me this unbelievable poll (she said she had to show me, couldn't believe it when she saw it) - there was a picture of Miley Cyrus in a bikini and the poll was "Do you think Miley looks fat?" Thankfully, 100% of the responders said no. Come on people - not even a 15 year old girl is off limits?!
 
S.C.:
What was stated there that you take exception to ?:confused3

Oooh, I can help you with that one. Calling a poster who lost her daughter and finding comfort in food "silly" is the height of heartlessness. Sometimes you might think something, but you just don't SAY it because it is just too awful. I can't imagine anything worse than losing a child and no (legal, morally-responsible) response to that situation warrants the label "silly."

Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong...just keep that little nugget to yourself. Human decency and all.
 
I think it is really easy for someone to critisize others weight and appearance, but then again no one lives that persons life. No one knows their trials and tribulations, the reason why they eat what they eat and feel the way they feel. Even tabloids commenting on a celebrities' weight do not know the mind of that celebrity. To me, if you cannot understand the issues a person has then who are you to judge?

I was considered an overweight teen and child and the comments that I was told hurt a lot. It was a break to my self-esteem and yes I did eat as a way of feeling good. I hated myself for it afterwards but I couldn't stop. I would hear bad put downs about my weight that would make me depressed and I would eat more, the more I ate the more weight I gained and so it was a cycle. I can understand how it feels to be put down over your appearance. It was a hard and long road to understand that the only person I needed to hear from was myself. I am considered healthy now, but I can understand a person's feelings when they comfort eat, because I did the same. I don't understand how someone who knows nothing about that and probably never has done the same can comment about another person's way of comfort. I was once told it is easy to yell at the sidelines then to get in the game yourself and take the tackles.
I think that these celebrities are under pressure and sometimes these tabloids take it too far with their gimmicky titles and "information from sources" stories that seem to be mostly hearsay.
 

Honugirl: I understand and believe that your disease causes cravings. However, you can still crave something salty or sweet without eating something unhealthy. If you crave something sweet an apple or just about any other piece of fruit is full of natural sugar, it doesn't have to be cupcakes. If you crave somthing salty a pickle is not a bad choice. Making a meal with pickled turnips or a nice cod fillet with some capers can get something salty that is better than overly salted canned soups. I would bet, however, that many people who claim to have medical issues don't. Or, if they have medical issues, they can be corrected better with a lifestyle change than drugs. You very well may not fall in that category and there are people who will need to medicate for life. I just know that it is not always the case. Sometimes it really is just lack of will power and laziness.

Never said it had to be cupcakes. I don't eat cupcakes. You don't understand and you never will. You cannot walk a day in my shoes and you know what? It's so freaking horrible, I wouldn't ask you to. I will need to medicate for life. Not medicating is not an option. When you're in a crisis, you don't have time to cook a cod fillet. When I need to balance my electrolytes, I have to do it now.

I'll agree that some things can be changed with lifestyle changes. Diet, etc. I think you need to take a good hard look at yourself and figure out how to get rid of you prejudices against us.




See, I have no problem with being short and don't want to be tall. I am not the one who comes on here and wonders why it is that only tall people can be models and movie stars are supposed to be 6 feet tall just like they are supposed to be thin. I have no issue with not fitting the ideal and don't complain about it on the boards.

I'm not complaining about my situation, I'm trying to educate. Do I like being overweight? NO. Do I wish I could change it? Absolutely. Do I think it stinks that I don't fit the "ideal'? Yup, I do. But that's life.



I'm sorry about your daughter but eating for comfort is just silly. Food is fuel that is used to keep you alive, not a friend. Emotional eating just makes no sense to me. Food is something that is necessary to sustain life. I would rather something healthy that betters my health than something that tastes better but lowers my health thresh hold. My cousin died 4 months after birth and my uncle turned to running. His doctor told him that it is normal to need an outlet for the sorrow and it is better to chose something beneficial than something dangerous like drinking or smoking. And I do feel the same way about alcohol and drugs, just don't do them. No one is a drug addict before they do their first line of coke or first shot of heroin. If you know you have an addictive personality just don't do it. My dad was a gambling addict so I don't gamble period. That way, I know I can't get addicted to it. I also believe that kicking an addiction is just a matter or will power. If one single solitary human being can quite smoking or drinking or whatever than all of us can, we just have to want to bad enough.

I'm so tired of hearing examples of how easy it is to choose something else. For some people, it's not easy. Glad your uncle could turn to running, but that's not realistic for everyone. For many people who turn to drugs and alcohol or gambling, they are doing it to fulfill a physical need. It's called self-medicating. I played hockey because I needed that adrenaline rush. My body wasn't firing on all cylinders, so I was getting what I needed by putting myself in dangerous situations.



The world is full of good and bad information. If you go to trusted sources and use a little common sense an adult with a functioning brain will be able to come to the right conclusions. Fat is bad for you, no fat is good for you. The actual answer, in the correct form and correct amount fat is beneficial. It is usually a matter of scale. Having a fillet of salmon is a better way to get proper fat than eating Crisco with a spoon.

Wow, judgmental at all? Crisco with a spoon? You really think we all eat like that? Wow, I can't say what I'd like to say because I'd end up with points. You want to know what I had for breakfast this morning after karate class? Strawberries and blueberries mixed with lowfat vanilla yogurt. Is that healthy enough for you?

It's really disheartening when I see someone that's a 10-12 being labeled "plus size." What does that make me? Whale size? I hate when the media labels celebrities fat. Like Jack Nicholson for instance. He looks like an average older white guy. Nothing wrong with that, but the media loves to pick on him.
 
Wow, judgmental at all? Crisco with a spoon? You really think we all eat like that? Wow, I can't say what I'd like to say because I'd end up with points. You want to know what I had for breakfast this morning after karate class? Strawberries and blueberries mixed with lowfat vanilla yogurt. Is that healthy enough for you?

It's really disheartening when I see someone that's a 10-12 being labeled "plus size." What does that make me? Whale size? I hate when the media labels celebrities fat. Like Jack Nicholson for instance. He looks like an average older white guy. Nothing wrong with that, but the media loves to pick on him.

Honugirl,

I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible. You are going to have to just ignore people. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO JUSTIFY YOURSELF TO ANYONE least of all anyone on this board. You never should have to explain why you are a specific size one way or the other. It's none of there damned business. Be comfortable with whom you are and ignore what the others say. It takes time and maturity and a whole lot of self esteem. I hope that you can get to that place of contentment sometime soon.

However, you do have to realize that all overweight people aren't overweight because of meidcal conditions. Medical conditions may happen because of it but that's something different. It's still not right to judge and point and anything else some on this thread feel the need to be so superior about.

I can say this all knowing that I'm still overweight but healthy. It really does happen. A fat girl can be happy, loved and healthy. My goodness I was born 9lbs10oz with all this hair and short and I'm sure I'm going to die fat, shorter and still have all this hair. Hey, I like it. It's who I am. Be happy with whom you are and don't let the finger pointers get to you.:hug::hug:
 
OP here -

Just wanted to pop on and say sorry if feelings have been hurt on this thread. Certainly not what I intended when I started it last night.

Have a good evening, everyone!
 
Consider seeing your doctor and have him do a thyroid test called the Free T3 and T4 blood test- make sure it is the free test and not the regular thyroid test. If you're over 34 the chances are higher that you could be suffering from hypothyroidism. One of the signs is it being hard for weight to come off even though you east right and exercise. Here are some other symptoms:

Symptoms of Hypothyroidism

* Fatigue
* Weakness
* Weight gain or increased difficulty losing weight
* Coarse, dry hair
* Dry, rough pale skin
* Hair loss
* Cold intolerance (you can't tolerate cold temperatures like those around you)
* Muscle cramps and frequent muscle aches
* Constipation
* Depression
* Irritability
* Memory loss
* Abnormal menstrual cycles
* Decreased libido

*disclaimer:I'm not a medical professional and I'm not trying to diagnose just giving a suggestion.

Thank you for the suggestion. I do see my endocrinologist (SP?) yearly and I have routine blood work throughout the year. I've had this condition since I was in 6th grade. Then to make the situation worse, I also have PCOS - makes for fun times! I do appreciate your suggestion. :)

No one deserves a twinkie or cake. It is most likely that that kind of thinking got them in the state they are in anyway. When a goal is met, rewarding it with food is the worst thing one can do, especially someone with weight issues.

I will add that I agree with 99% of what firedancer said.

So why do they make Twinkies and treats if no one deserves them? :confused3 I'm not trying to be rude, just curious. I'm not talking about it being used as a reward, I'm basically saying that just because a person is overweight doesn't mean that they eat Twinkies and cake all day long. Are they entitled to have one if they chose to? Absolutely. Even if a person is thin, Twinkies should be eaten in moderation. I do agree with Firedancer when he said that if a person can't eat something in moderation, than it is best to stay away from it all together. My dad used to love sweets but he had a mild heart attack a few years ago so now he doesn't eat any sweets at all. It is better for him that way because he couldn't eat them in moderation.


I think that what we need to teach our kids is that being healthy means eating right, exercising, and maintaining a healthy weight. Being severely underweight can cause just as many problems as being severely overweight. I've battled bulemia for many years now, and even though I'm within the normal limits for my height (5'2 and 130 lbs), I still see myself as being heavy. That's the irrational side of my head though, and because of what I know about medicine and nutrition, I know that I'm a healthy weight. My doctors support me in exercising (within limits) and keeping an eye on my caloric and fat intake. The most important thing with calories is to not take in more than you burn. I eat about 1500-2000 calories a day, depending on my activity levels. I'm one of those people who, when exercising daily (talking cardio and weightlifting daily), cannot keep weight on. I'll drop to dangerously low levels, so I know that if I start working out on that schedule (running 5-7 miles a day, swimming the same, and weightlifting every afternoon) I need to up my calories. Sorry for going on that random tangent, I got off topic. Anyhow, the most important thing to teach kids is that if you're healthy and active, your weight will be manageable and healthy.. if that makes sense

:hug: Just sending you hugs for telling your story. :hug:
 
So why do they make Twinkies and treats if no one deserves them? :confused3 I'm not trying to be rude, just curious. I'm not talking about it being used as a reward, I'm basically saying that just because a person is overweight doesn't mean that they eat Twinkies and cake all day long. Are they entitled to have one if they chose to? Absolutely. Even if a person is thin, Twinkies should be eaten in moderation. I do agree with Firedancer when he said that if a person can't eat something in moderation, than it is best to stay away from it all together. My dad used to love sweets but he had a mild heart attack a few years ago so now he doesn't eat any sweets at all. It is better for him that way because he couldn't eat them in moderation.

They make them because people buy them. Its a business.

Twinkies should NEVER be eaten by anyone, thin or otherwise.

No one is "entitled" to any certain food.

I'm sticking with the analogy I posted upthread about foodies and food and alcoholics and alcohol.

Oh, FTR, I'm am about 35lbs overweight so I'm not some skinny chick bashing the overweight ones. I am overweight!

DBF, DD and I are working on eating more healthy and picking better options to have as snacks. We like our food, love food actually, we are just trying to work on picking the right ones.
 
Oooh, I can help you with that one. Calling a poster who lost her daughter and finding comfort in food "silly" is the height of heartlessness. Sometimes you might think something, but you just don't SAY it because it is just too awful. I can't imagine anything worse than losing a child and no (legal, morally-responsible) response to that situation warrants the label "silly."

Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong...just keep that little nugget to yourself. Human decency and all.

I was just going to come on here with the same response. There are times when "winning" just isn't as important as human compassion. :headache:

SereneOne.... :hug: I'm so sorry for the loss of your child. I cannot even imagine. That is every parents worst nightmare. :guilty:
 


DBF, DD and I are working on eating more healthy and picking better options to have as snacks. We like our food, love food actually, we are just trying to work on picking the right ones.

Good luck. Have you checked out the WISH boards? There is a lot of good information over there and there are biggest looser groups that work for a lot of people.

I like that you are taking responsibility for your health and not trying to find something or someone else to blame. That is the entire crux of everything I stated. I have no issue if someone is overweight, I just don't want to hear the excuses.

Every time anyone has to pick what to eat they have a choice. For some the better choice is easy and for some it is hard, but it is a choice (except for very rare occasions when a disease takes away the choice). The same goes for when it is time to choose what to do for the next hour. Someone can choose to sit on the couch and watch TV or they can choose a run or walk or hike or something more active. If the healthier choices are paired with the more active choices the weight will come off. It may be slow and difficult but it will happen, it just takes time.

Time passes one way or another. Sitting here and looking ahead waiting a year to see any real results might sound unthinkable but in 365 days it will still be a year from now. When the time comes you can look back and be glad you started on the slow road to health or you can look back and with you did. I suppose you can also look back and not care, and that is ok too. If that is you though (the proverbial you of course) just be aware that you are the one who made that choice, not anyone else. This isn't aimed at the minority with a try ailment that prevents them from doing any of this, it is aimed at the majority who chose not to.

To answer the question about self medicating I find any form of it silly, with food, drugs, gambling, or alcohol. The role of food is to nourish, not make us feel better. I understand people have issues in life but to use it as an excuse to abuse anything is just justification. There are much healthier ways to expel energy than to consume more energy, like running, biking, or as a PP did, pick a sport. I'm also not willing to be one of those people who doesn't say what they feel. I would never tell anyone else to hold their tongue if they have an opinion, even on different than mine, this is America and all.
 
Honugirl,

I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible. You are going to have to just ignore people. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO JUSTIFY YOURSELF TO ANYONE least of all anyone on this board. You never should have to explain why you are a specific size one way or the other. It's none of there damned business. Be comfortable with whom you are and ignore what the others say. It takes time and maturity and a whole lot of self esteem. I hope that you can get to that place of contentment sometime soon.

However, you do have to realize that all overweight people aren't overweight because of meidcal conditions. Medical conditions may happen because of it but that's something different. It's still not right to judge and point and anything else some on this thread feel the need to be so superior about.

I can say this all knowing that I'm still overweight but healthy. It really does happen. A fat girl can be happy, loved and healthy. My goodness I was born 9lbs10oz with all this hair and short and I'm sure I'm going to die fat, shorter and still have all this hair. Hey, I like it. It's who I am. Be happy with whom you are and don't let the finger pointers get to you.:hug::hug:

Thanks lovemygoofy! I'm still learning to cope with all the changes I'm going through. I get my hackles up because I'm always having to defend myself to people (doctors included). It's really nice to hear about someone who is my size being healthy, happy and loved. :thumbsup2:hug:

OP here -

Just wanted to pop on and say sorry if feelings have been hurt on this thread. Certainly not what I intended when I started it last night.

Have a good evening, everyone!

OP, don't worry about it. You posted some good stuff. Many people have very strong viewpoints about this subject.

The thing that I have trouble understanding is why it's acceptable for a man to be overweight (in most cases) but us women have to be a size 2 to be accepted?
 
From what I can gather from the responses to this thread, it is acceptable to criticize people about being overweight because the pounds are something they can control. They don't control their weight because, among other things, they are lazy and/or they don't have common sense because they aren't adults with functioning brains, etc. Therefore, anyone else can pass judgment, make rude remarks, etc.

Personally, I think it's acceptable because it's a quick and easy way to boost one's own self-esteem by critizing those that are considered different. Or those that aren't perceived to be playing by the rules. And there's never a shortage of "different". It's the never-ending "junior high school cafeteria" mentality.


I completely agree with you. I wonder how many of those skinny ones have a self esteem problem and making fun of overweight people boosts their self esteem and feeds their ego. :confused3 No ONE has the right to make fun of another person for any reason: it just shows their bigotry (Of course, they would never admit to being bigoted; they are just stating a fact!!!!:scared1:)
 
Where did I state or imply that I'm perfect.

Rewarding an "eater" with food is the same damned thing as rewarding an alcoholic with a beer.

There is absolutely no comparison. People need to eat every day to survive. You can avoid alcohol the rest of your life.

I completely agree with you. I wonder how many of those skinny ones have a self esteem problem and making fun of overweight people boosts their self esteem and feeds their ego. :confused3 No ONE has the right to make fun of another person for any reason: it just shows their bigotry (Of course, they would never admit to being bigoted; they are just stating a fact!!!!:scared1:)

Exactly. It's nothing more than people trying to make themselves feel superior because they aren't fat. But they excuse their rudeness by "stating facts" or saying that they're worried about the health of the obese or they're worried about health care costs (they love pulling that out of their hats when nothing else is working :lmao:).

Just bigotry, plain and simple.
 
I used to be a bulimic. I was so worried about what people would say if I were a few pounds overweight, mostly because I watched and saw how cruel people could be to my overweight friends. I did whatever it took to avoid gaining weight. But then I was struck with several autoimmune disesaes and had to take large amounts of prednisone. Basically, I'm in honugirl's shoes, only in my case it's from synthetic cortisol that I gain wieght and not natural cortisol. This has been such a difficult thing for me that at several points in my life, I considered and sometimes even tried to go off the life saving drug, just so people like FireDancer would be ok being in the room with me.

When I go to Disneyland, I need an ECV. I have rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, interstitial cystitis, and Sjögrens Syndrome (with MS like central nervous system involvement). I mean, I really qualify as somebody disabled who needs one. But I happen to be fat, and because of that, I refuse to use the ECV. Why? Because I have read threads, right here on the DIS, where we are treated to the "fact" that ECVs are full of fat lazy people who use those things because they are too pathetic to walk. I am so afraid of being judged that I would rather compromise my health and wear myself down instead of taking it easy and enjoying my vacations.

I have thought about going to the WISH board to seek support, but the support would be clouded because I now see that there are people there who will cast judgment on me if I eat a piece of chocolate cake on my birthday and admit that to the group.

So to those of you who think you do people "favors" by letting them know they are fat and not eating right....you're not. All you manage to do is make people feel even worse about themselves. Every psychology experiment ever done on this subject will tell you that the way to encourage people to do better, be healthier, or study/work harder is to compliment good behavior and that knocking people down or humiliating people is not only not helpful, it usually has negative affects. But then you already know this, yes FireDancer? You strike me as a well read person. You know you're not helping people. Just out of curiosity, as you read about the hurt feelings you have caused on this thread, including belittling a woman whose child has died....do you feel better about yourself? Are you forgetting your own physical/personality flaws, just for a little while as you smugly watch the affect your words have had on good, decent people?
 
Where did I state or imply that I'm perfect.

Rewarding an "eater" with food is the same damned thing as rewarding an alcoholic with a beer.

I agree with this 100%. You're right, it probably does have the same affect.
 
I used to be a bulimic. I was so worried about what people would say if I were a few pounds overweight, mostly because I watched and saw how cruel people could be to my overweight friends. I did whatever it took to avoid gaining weight. But then I was struck with several autoimmune disesaes and had to take large amounts of prednisone. Basically, I'm in honugirl's shoes, only in my case it's from synthetic cortisol that I gain wieght and not natural cortisol. This has been such a difficult thing for me that at several points in my life, I considered and sometimes even tried to go off the life saving drug, just so people like FireDancer would be ok being in the room with me.

When I go to Disneyland, I need an ECV. I have rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, interstitial cystitis, and Sjögrens Syndrome (with MS like central nervous system involvement). I mean, I really qualify as somebody disabled who needs one. But I happen to be fat, and because of that, I refuse to use the ECV. Why? Because I have read threads, right here on the DIS, where we are treated to the "fact" that ECVs are full of fat lazy people who use those things because they are too pathetic to walk. I am so afraid of being judged that I would rather compromise my health and wear myself down instead of taking it easy and enjoying my vacations.

I have thought about going to the WISH board to seek support, but the support would be clouded because I now see that there are people there who will cast judgment on me if I eat a piece of chocolate cake on my birthday and admit that to the group.

So to those of you who think you do people "favors" by letting them know they are fat and not eating right....you're not. All you manage to do is make people feel even worse about themselves. Every psychology experiment ever done on this subject will tell you that the way to encourage people to do better, be healthier, or study/work harder is to compliment good behavior and that knocking people down or humiliating people is not only not helpful, it usually has negative affects. But then you already know this, yes FireDancer? You strike me as a well read person. You know you're not helping people. Just out of curiosity, as you read about the hurt feelings you have caused on this thread, including belittling a woman whose child has died....do you feel better about yourself? Are you forgetting your own physical/personality flaws, just for a little while as you smugly watch the affect your words have had on good, decent people?

Way to go Orchid! :thumbsup2 :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

I started out my very first full karate class today with other students. Rather than belittle me in front of the class when I did something wrong, the instructor gave me such positive comments! He encouraged me to keep going. In fact, he was so encouraging I'm going back to class again tonight so I can work on more things. Just by his attitude, he has made me want to work even harder.

It's like the old saying, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar!
 
Way to go Orchid! :thumbsup2

I started out my very first full karate class today with other students. Rather than belittle me in front of the class when I did something wrong, the instructor gave me such positive comments! He encouraged me to keep going. In fact, he was so encouraging I'm going back to class again tonight so I can work on more things. Just by his attitude, he has made me want to work even harder.

It's like the old saying, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar!

I think you are awesome for joining that class! And it's wonderful that they are being so supportive to you. I can see your excitement and motivation and that is the affect that positive support can have on a person. :hug: I like that! Much better than the frustration and defensiveness you felt in response to the negative comments made by FireDancer. This is a real life example of how support, compassion and kindness can make a world of difference in a person's life.
 
Honugirl: I understand and believe that your disease causes cravings. However, you can still crave something salty or sweet without eating something unhealthy. If you crave something sweet an apple or just about any other piece of fruit is full of natural sugar, it doesn't have to be cupcakes. If you crave somthing salty a pickle is not a bad choice. Making a meal with pickled turnips or a nice cod fillet with some capers can get something salty that is better than overly salted canned soups. I would bet, however, that many people who claim to have medical issues don't. Or, if they have medical issues, they can be corrected better with a lifestyle change than drugs. You very well may not fall in that category and there are people who will need to medicate for life. I just know that it is not always the case. Sometimes it really is just lack of will power and lazines



I'm sorry about your daughter but eating for comfort is just silly. Food is fuel that is used to keep you alive, not a friend. Emotional eating just makes no sense to me. Food is something that is necessary to sustain life. I would rather something healthy that betters my health than something that tastes better but lowers my health thresh hold. My cousin died 4 months after birth and my uncle turned to running. His doctor told him that it is normal to need an outlet for the sorrow and it is better to chose something beneficial than something dangerous like drinking or smoking. And I do feel the same way about alcohol and drugs, just don't do them. No one is a drug addict before they do their first line of coke or first shot of heroin. If you know you have an addictive personality just don't do it. My dad was a gambling addict so I don't gamble period. That way, I know I can't get addicted to it. I also believe that kicking an addiction is just a matter or will power. If one single solitary human being can quite smoking or drinking or whatever than all of us can, we just have to want to bad enough.



The world is full of good and bad information. If you go to trusted sources and use a little common sense an adult with a functioning brain will be able to come to the right conclusions. Fat is bad for you, no fat is good for you. The actual answer, in the correct form and correct amount fat is beneficial. It is usually a matter of scale. Having a fillet of salmon is a better way to get proper fat than eating Crisco with a spoon.


Just because you are ignorant does not make something silly, "Shortie"

I think you have a complex because of your lack of height and you try to deflect your flaws by making the disgusting comments that you do. Have you gotten that height surgery yet? It is just silly that you are short and no excuse for it. You could just get the surgery and stop making excuses. Who cares if you consider being short not a problem for you, society does, short men are less successful in the workplace and in romance, you need to do something about that, and until you do, I and everyone else can make fun of you...makes as much sense as the crap you are spouting, huh?

And if you know you have an addictive personality? How do you know you have an addictive personality smart one? You say gambling is an addiction in your family, so you do not do it...hmmm...HOW DOES ONE NEVER EAT ANY TYPE OF FOOD, OH BRILLIANT ONE??? And hmmm...I was NEVER overweight until I gained weight when my child died. And no duh that doing something benifical like running would be a better way to grieve...have you buried a child, jackbutt? have you had a child die in your arms? have you felt your child grow cold in your arms? To sit there and say that someone in those circumstances should think to run and be healthy and not succumb to something comforting like the Nestle Tollhouse cookies they offer you in the Ronald McDonald House is absolutely asinine. I wanted to die, you magnanimous idiot! I have never been in the devastating pain that I was in when I lost my child and my other daughter hovered between life and death for several months. My other children were the only thing that kept me alive. When I returned to the Ronald McDonald house at night, I ate what they had which usually was lasagna, lasagna, lasagna (And I thank you volunteers that took time out to think of us and feed us!). Do you have any idea how expensive it is to have to stay away from your family for four months to take care of your baby in NICU and what lovely options (ya right) there are in the hospital?

YOU do not know what you are talking about and need to just shut up! Just because you can't comprehend something does not mean another person does not struggle with something and does not deserve human decency. You are a sad, sad little man and not just in height.
 





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