Why is Eisner so bad for Disney?

KM2004

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I've only been a disney-holic for a few years now so I haven't heeded the change Disney took when Eisner was first in charge (or the evolution the company has been taking since). What has he done in his nearly 20 years at the top of Disney to leave such a bad taste in everyones mouth?

just wondering...thanks :wave2:
 
I asked the same question on another thread. Under his time at Disney more resort rooms have been added, 2 new parks, I think the water parks and DTD, some of the best movies like Toy Story 1&2, the Lion king and the Little Mermaid have come out, and Disney Cruise Line was launched.

The responses I got were mostly gave me the impression that people think he did okay at first, but over the last few years has done too much cost cutting and it is ruining the quality of the parks, and films.

At least that's how I took the responses.

:confused3
 
because Roy said so


and he must be right cause he is a Disney

:rolleyes:
 
I think people agree that Eisner was great when another board member (who's name escape me at the moment) was alive and on the board of directors. Evidently the two worked well together. The one being the creative mind and Eisner being more business minded.

However since this board members death the creative aspect of Disney has become lax. And Eisner replaced making magic to making money. The park maintanence was cut, the rides and ideas for new and inovative things were cut, the animators became overly managed, and it just wasn't the same.

Since this board members death Disney Corp has not done well at all.

~Amanda
 

Having been going to Disney since I was little and being a CM on the college program, I have my own opinon about why Eisner isn't good for Disney. :)

Eisner was great for Disney in the beginning, he brought the company out of the shadows and into the entertainment giant it has become. But over the last few years it's all become dollars and cents of Eisner. He spends too much time worrying about earnings and trying to screw CMs and the guests. He's gotten away from Disney's core areas of animation and the theme parks. His cost cutting moves at the theme parks have become stuff of legend among CMs. He's moved away from some of Walt's core strategies and ignores the philosophy that Walt began so long ago. He hasn't handled things well with Pixar and most of that is because of his massive ego. I could go on and on but I'm sure more DISers will have their opinons as well. :)
 
the 2 posts prior to mine sum it up quite well..
 
I was a huge Eisner supporter until Frank Wells died. Even for the most part until 2001. What really put me over the edge was after 9/11. Disney (meaning Eisner) froze CM pay and laid off thousands because of the downturn in the tourism industry then took a multi-million dollar bonus for himself.

I'm too lazy to go look up the actual facts and figures but they are out there. If I have time this afternoon maybe I will.

After leaving WDW, I became a manager at TDS and the gross mismanagement of the stores at the executative level is what drove them to the state there are in now. Eisner put those people in place, allowed them to sink a division of the company and now it's a division of Children's Place.

Don't even get me started on ABC.
 
I think that the problem is that the Disney Company is floundering under the "leadership" of Eisner. The company's stock has been virtually flat for years when compared to other industies. Like it or not, Disney is a business. And Eisner hasn't been doing a very good job growing the business. His techniques of cost-cutting in order to make the books look better have had the effect of actually hurting the company.

It's about time that someone new take the helm.
 
ABC. I thought the pre game and Pats game last night was awesome. Very entertaining. There was a lot of advertising for "Wife Swap." ABC is in a lot of trouble if that's the best show they have this fall.

Family Channel. Disney bought it out. It could be marketed better or change the format. Loved the ultimate fan special on the Travel Channel, and the channel is not even owned by Disney. Why aren't there any travel specials on channels owned by Disney?

Summer movies Disney put out has been a stinker. Some are saying "Around the World in 80 Days" is the flop of the year.

Pixar deal falling through. Disney needs Pixar. "Home on the Range" doesn't come close to "Finding Nemo."

just my 2 cents.
 
In my opinion, it boils down to a couple of key factors. I think Eisner did a great job in the beginning (the first ten years, which he dubbed "The Disney Decade") with the new park expansion, cementing Disney's place in the entertainment industry, etc. However, I think he has become increasingly money-driven. I realize that all companies must watch the bottom line, but quality must also be taken into account.

--Recently his policies regarding the animators have caused a "creative drain" as I've heard it called. Florida animation was closed, and many of the animators are very disgrunted and leave to work for Dreamworks or Pixar. Since Disney began in animation, I think it is critical to acquire and maintain talented animators.

--He has built some attractions cheaply and/or done nothing with space where attractions have been closed. For instance, closing 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (which I have no problem with in and of itself) about 10 years ago, then leaving it just sitting there to rot. A replacement should have been designed immediately on such a prime spot in Fantasyland. Also, the closing of too many attractions involving audio animatronics. To me, AA's are a large part of what makes Disney Disney so to speak. Yet, so many of these attractions have been closed or are rumored to possibly be getting closed (e.g. Horizons, Spaceship Earth, etc.). To me this just isn't right.

--He is not responsive to the will of the shareholders. After a historical 43% (or was it 46%) vote to remove him from leadership, he refused to step down. Since this many votes against management is unheard of in corporate America, I think he should've listened to the will of the shareholders.

--He doesn't keep important contracts in place. Pixar/Disney animated movies have been wildly successful, and he has allowed that relationship to fall through. I have heard that it has perhaps been rectified now, but he shouldn't just blow Pixar off when they have been so instrumental in making some excellent Disney films in the past few years.

--He has not managed things in the company well outside the theme parks. ABC is floundering (yet other networks seem to be able to find winners in programming).
 
Me what is so Bad about Eisener and I replied: "He is running the Disney Company into the ground.":o Enough said.::yes::
 
Originally posted by ead79

--He has built some attractions cheaply and/or done nothing with space where attractions have been closed. For instance, closing 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (which I have no problem with in and of itself) about 10 years ago, then leaving it just sitting there to rot. A replacement should have been designed immediately on such a prime spot in Fantasyland. Also, the closing of too many attractions involving audio animatronics. To me, AA's are a large part of what makes Disney Disney so to speak. Yet, so many of these attractions have been closed or are rumored to possibly be getting closed (e.g. Horizons, Spaceship Earth, etc.). To me this just isn't right.

Well said. The cost cutting on some of the attractions drives me insane. I thought I was alone in my opinions till I read Jim Hill's website and see that I'm not the only one who notices a lack of quality in the attractions at the parks. Disney needs someone with a new vision and a CEO that regains respect among the CM's. Some of the things Imagineers have come up with would have been amazing if not for Eisner's personal involvment and his cost cutting measures.
 
Starting in the early 90's (right after the death of Frank Wells), Eisner became obsessed with short term profit. Maintenace budgets for the parks were slashed, hours were cut back way back, attractions were closed with no replacements (Tommorowland at Disneyland is a ghosttown these days). Recent parks have been drastically under built (AK, California Adventure, Disney Studios Paris, DL Hong Kong which will have only 4 attractions and 1 e-ticket!!!) are all "half day experiences".

Look at Dino Rama in Animal Kingdom to see everything that is wrong with Eisners philosophy. He calls these carnival ride "lightly themed attractions". Walt would have had a bird if this sort of thing were even considered on his watch. Look at the decaying state of Disneyland and the deaths that resulted from his cutbacks of maintenance and safety, all in the name of the short term dollar.

Eisner also displayed no investment knowledge. He spent over 4 Billion on the Fox Family network. Most Analysts placed is value at around 1 billion at the time, making Eisner the laughing stock of the industry. He bought sports team that have nothing to do with the Disney mission and have been nothing but money sinks ever since. He pushed for the Disney stores to be way over built, then watched as they turned into huge money losers. And dont even talk to me about the fiasco that is the ABC network (though I will admit that the ESPN purchase worked out very well).

I would go into detail about his abondonment of animation (the thing that made the company great to begin with), but I don't want to lose my temper. Suffice it to say that he has ordered the firing of almost all of the company's animators and imagineers. He sold off the company's unique talant pool for the sake of saving a few bucks. He has declared traditional animation to be "dead".

Some would say that it is too much to lay this all at Eisner's door, that he cant be responsible for everything his company does However, I chose my examples careflully. Eisner is a known micro manager and every example I have sited came from either a direct edict from Eisner or resulted from a strict policy that he laid down.

For the last 10 years, Eisner has consistantly cut quality and safety while raising prices. The good news is that in the last year we have seen the trend reversing itself a bit in the parks. There have been some new e-tickets at WDW and the neglect the Disneyland has suffered is finally being repaired, but much more needs to be done. Also, the falling stock price and the failure of the movie, sports and TV (ESPN excepted) divisions of the company speak for themselves. Eisner may have been a good leader once, but its time for him to leave before his leadership damages the company beyond what it can survive.
 
Simply put, Eisner's time has come and gone. He did remarkable things with the company when he first came on board. He helped to save the company from a hostile take over bid and built the company up. He and Frank Wells, who was brought in as President, worked magic with Disney. Many have compared the team of Frank and Micheal to Roy and Walt. One the creative genus, and the other the financial wizard. That is why many attribute the fall of Disney to about the same time Wells died in that helicopter crash. Eisner, instead of replacing Wells, took over his job as well. Many questionable business decisions were made, ones that may have garnered short term profits, but at a cost of long term growth.

Eisner wanted to control a huge media conglomerate, so he began to build one with the companies assets, buying up other companies and spending money that Disney didn't have. Many people questioned, and still do the rationale of buying ABC, ESPN, the sports teams, FOX family and the other large companies he went into debt to buy. To help cover these purchases he began the cycle of raise the prices and lower the product quality. Park maintenance declined, hours were cut, CMs let go. But as far as Eisner was concerned as long as the customers kept coming, so be it. Eisner was lucky in that Disney has a VERY loyal customer base, but even that has begun to errode.

Stock performance for the last 5 or so years, including pre 9/11 has been abysmal. The stock has lost 1/2 it's value and is just recently SLOWLY coming back up but no where near it's high points. As the company value plummeted, as CMs were fired, as things were cut back, Eisner CONTINUED to take 20 million dollar bonuses, further erroding employee moral of the cast members who remained. I can't imaging a boss saying, I need you all to take a pay cut, I need to fire you over there. It is for the good of the company. Then turning around after doing ALL this and more and taking a huge bonus. Eisner was great, once, but that time passed long ago. It has been time for a change for a while, I guess we will still have to wait 1 1/2 years. It is sad to think about the potential damage he can do in that time.
 
Hey, let's not forget the money he spent on Go.com to give Disney a "web presence" whatever that is. Lost bunches and bunches on that and you never hear about it....

That's when I personally started voting against him as a shareholder....

It's a shame - I liked Mike, and I believed in what he was doing at first.
 
I agree. It's time for Eisner to be gone.

I've been hearing about the working conditions in the parks as well. Things like no breaks (even when they are wearing those costumes all day) and some of the staff have colapsed from the heat. There's also things like no benefits, and low wages.

Walt Disney would be losing it right about now.
 
Eisner is more concerned with lining his own wallet than keeping to the basics that made Disney what it was. I will agree that "Finding Nemo" was a great movie, BUT - is it really as magical as a Disney film can be? It was a good moneymaker and sold alot of merchandise - that's what's important to Eisner.

Before Nemo, think about the stinkers that Disney put out - Atlantis, Treasure Planet, hordes of direct-to-video junk sequels, and on and on. It's like the creative engines have all stopped running.:(

And what have we seen since? Hmmm... "Home on the Range" - now there's a good one - I see it's coming to video, how fortunate for Disney, maybe they'll make some money on it now.;)

Theme parks haven't had the attention they deserve in quite a while. Details (which Walt was a stickler for) have been ignored, maintenance has gone down the toilet and all the while, ticket prices are soaring.

Yes, it's time for Eisner to hit the golf course permanently.
 
wow, very informative.

I never knew all this was going on.

Now that you guys mention it, though, AK does lack in rides, the dinosaur carnival thing AK has doesn't seem to fit with Disney's core business model, the improvements/upgrades to all parks seem to have gotten stagnant, and the movies they've been producing have been real duds, to name a few.

I only know Eisner through his weekly appearances on ABC's sunday (or was it saturday?) night movie where he'd introduce the movie with a personal story and a smile. That got me liking him. Oh well :)


Thanks everyone for the info!
 
When Mr Eisner took the Disney company from being driven by creativity, newness and inspiration to greed and money grubbing cutbacks (and accepting HUGE financial packages himself) I lost all faith in what he could do for the company.

I feel his direction changed with the death of Frank Wells or maybe just a wee bit before....

It's more than time for a change and contrary to what everyone is saying, he's not "stepping down"......he's just letting his contract expire. IMHO to step down would mean to walk away BEFORE his contract is done. I suppose that part is just a matter of semantics though. :(
 
Originally posted by totalia
I agree. It's time for Eisner to be gone.

I've been hearing about the working conditions in the parks as well. Things like no breaks (even when they are wearing those costumes all day) and some of the staff have colapsed from the heat. There's also things like no benefits, and low wages.

I haven't heard any of this. DH works at WDW and so you'd think I would have..... yes, the benefits were cut back. All corporations are doing this - that's what the grocery workers union was striking for awhile back in California - and wages are low, but what do you expect for working at a theme park? Staff collapsing from the heat - so are guests - it's 98 degrees with 90 percent humidity! As for the characters in the costumes, they get the best breaks - 20 minutes on and 40 minutes off. When DH doesn't get a break, it's because some bozo forgot!

There is a lot of blame to place at Eisner's feet. Just want to set the record straight about this.
 












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