Why Has Disneyland Stopped fireworks during the week.

[miamimi]

Based on the population of Anaheim and the surrounding cities it's hundreds of thousands of residents, maybe even a million.

What was there when DLR was built? Orange groves.
Regardless of the numbers in the surrounding area, they chose to live there. Just as others have chosen to live near airports or freeways.

 

[miamimi]

ETA- oh, and I'm wondering if the person who said you should spend a ton of time checking out a house before you buy it has ever bought a house in California. Yeah, no. We don't get that luxury out here. Sometimes, there are upwards of 30 people bidding on a single house, going way over asking, and waiving all contingencies, and that happens within hours of the house going on the market. We just bought our house, and there was a couple who put a bid in for it, sight unseen. No way could we have gone multiple times, at different times of day, before bidding. We would never have made it- we had to bid after seeing it once. We were very lucky to get it. California housing markets don't play by the rest of the nation's rules.

I'm sorry, but a hot real estate market doesn't prevent you from investigating the neighborhoods prior buying a house. Can't you investigate neighborhoods and decide which ones are suitable before you start a serious search?

 

[maltdizzy]

Anyone who isn't a California resident doesn't understand the tenacity of long-time California property owners. Prop 13 means that property and homes can be past from generation to generation without a new tax assessment. These can be used for rentals, vacation homes, etc., all while paying less than $100 a year in property taxes (while the next door neighbor pays $3000). And in California, voter referendums can negate corporate campaign contributions and lobbying. In someone wanted to vote a referendum barring fireworks everywhere,

None the less, Disneyland doesn't do year-round fireworks, no have they needed to to draw crowds, and I doubt they are in any rush to start, so this is all moot.

 

[tiffjoy]

I'm sorry, but a hot real estate market doesn't prevent you from investigating the neighborhoods prior buying a house. Can't you investigate neighborhoods and decide which ones are suitable before you start a serious search?

We had to pick a lot of cities and neighborhoods, and most have good and bad points. We ended up buying a house in a town and neighborhood we hadn't even considered. Bid on the house right after seeing it, before it was open to the public, and along with about 10 other people. Your ideas of how to buy a house would result in you not getting one out here.

I've lived in CA for almost 14 years. Please don't try to educate me on the housing market. What you are saying just doesn't hold true out here. Period.

 

[Prose]

Residents don't really have a right to complain about Disneys noise-they have moved into the area knowing Disney is there, that is like moving next to a train track and complaining about the noise from the train.

You know that as recently as 1985 Disneyland was closed completely on Mondays and Tuesday, right? I am sure many of the folks in the surrounding neighborhoods up to 15 miles away have been there longer. Give them a break - As others have said, fireworks are a small part of the experience and this is a residential area. Disney is being considerate - good on them.

 

[Snap Crackle Pop]

They aren't going to make fireworks happen everyday during off season. Anaheim controls when the fireworks are allowed to happen. If you want fireworks everyday go to WDW, DL is doing just fine without fireworks every night.

 

[tiffjoy]

So you couldn't investigate prior to bidding on a home? No, you could've, you just didn't choose to. That was your choice. Please don't act all superior about the California housing market. I'm a 4th generation Southern Californian.

This isn't worth fighting over. The Peninsula market in the Bay Area isn't at all like SoCal. And I'm not acting superior. I'm saying please stop trying to educate me on a system I know about. Also, I DID investigate. I said we couldn't do what you said, which is find a house, then spend days showing up at all different hours of the day and week before we bid on it. That's just fact, not something we "chose" not to do. And it's also why we got a reputable agent who knows the area really well. I'm very happy with my home and our choice.

Your argument is not winnable that Disney should be able to set off fireworks every night, and the surrounding towns must deal with it. That is just not grounded in fact, and that is the point here. Let's stop getting sidetracked. And also, as said, it's a moot point. They aren't going to do it mostly because they don't need to to attract visitors.

 

[GatorChris]

This is one of those points where Disneyland and WDW are different. It was a reason why Walt wanted WDW to be its own place, and not in the middle of a busy area. Until 2005, fireworks had been limited to Fri-Sun during the school year, and daily when school was out. And from 1958-1999, they had Fantasy In The Sky, the 7 minute show. Heck, I've been down in June when school wasn't out yet, and no fireworks during the week. Disney negotiates with Anaheim to get what permits they can for fireworks. They pay, not just for fireworks, but for the permits to be allowed to set them off. But it is set in the middle of SoCal, where families live, and not out in the middle of the desert here. (Swamps there...) I think of it like I would not want the same fireworks going off nightly at John Thurman field.

Yeah, I get it. Doesn't mean I like it. Maybe I need a job with an airline so I can get back to WDW easier. I hear that it's real easy for airline employees to get seats these days.

 

[tlovesdis]

GENTLE REMINDER...

This thread needs to get back to it's original question about the fireworks. No need to debate people's housing purchasing styles. Let's keep focused or we will close the thread!

Thanks everyone!

 

[SMD]

If I'm spending $ 600,000 or more on a house, I think it's my responsibility to investigate the neighborhood. If people don't choose to to do this, it's their fault.

What was there when DLR was built? Orange groves.
Regardless of the numbers in the surrounding area, they chose to live there. Just as others have chosen to live near airports or freeways.

In the current area impacted by fireworks there were over 100,000 people according to the 1950 census. Likely more between when DL was built and even more when they started offering fireworks. Cities, states and airports choose to mitigate impact on surrounding neighborhoods, despite their choice to stay in their homes. They add and increase the height of noise dampening walls all of the time near freeways. Disneyland and Anaheim have chosen not to offer nightly fireworks.

 

[miamimi]

Well, I think the minute Disney decides they want to have nightly fireworks again, it will happen. Just as it did with the 60th anniversary. After all, Disney is generating a lot of tourism revenue that supports a lot of area businesses.

 

[Westcoastwild]

Well, I think the minute Disney decides they want to have nightly fireworks again, it will happen. Just as it did with the 60th anniversary. After all, Disney is generating a lot of tourism revenue that supports a lot of area businesses.

If Disneyland died- I mean completely closed down- Anaheim would still be there. The area is neither inhabited nor valuable solely due to Disney. It did become a boom town industry wise when Disney moved in. But now it's a population of more than 300, 000. And I'd bet a good portion of those people actually work elsewhere. LA traffic is notorious because people do not live where they work.

Disney does probably have a lot of pull but they still have to get permits and approval. As mentioned up thread- Disney doesn't even have final say in whether the existing fireworks go off. Fire Marshall does.

Honestly, I think Disney hasn't got quite as much power as people give them credit for. They would have expanded a lot more in Southern California if they did. They have to follow state employment laws, which cost money. They have to pay for permits for development and other logistical things. They have to be able to purchase land to expand. If Disney disappeared, the hotels might close down, but this is still Southern California. Other industry or developers would move in. Disney COULD expand. They COULD pay for the supplies and permits to do so. But other than special occasions, like the 60th, they don't have much motivation to do so.

 

[SOCALMouseMommy]

I have to say that I'm really surprised how many people are so worked up over fireworks (or the lack thereof). I mean, I like fireworks. They are cool. But I see them on the Fourth of July. If I don't see them at Disneyland I really could care less. Now, if DL shut down all the headliner rides on weekdays or only sold churros and Mickey ice cream bars Friday through Sunday then THAT would get me worked up for sure.

 

[Winnowill]

I have to say that I'm really surprised how many people are so worked up over fireworks (or the lack thereof). I mean, I like fireworks. They are cool. But I see them on the Fourth of July. If I don't see them at Disneyland I really could care less.

Honestly, now that I've seen Disney fireworks, standard run-of-the-mill 4th of July fireworks just leave me cold. I used to go to see the Diamondbacks on the 4th to see the fireworks. I don't any more, because they're just random explosions - there's no style there.

 

[SOCALMouseMommy]

Honestly, now that I've seen Disney fireworks, standard run-of-the-mill 4th of July fireworks just leave me cold. I used to go to see the Diamondbacks on the 4th to see the fireworks. I don't any more, because they're just random explosions - there's no style there.

Oh, I'm not saying they are not awesome. They definitely are. But not seeing fireworks wouldn't ruin my Disney trip.