Who thinks the retail deals over the last 2 yrs are getting to be be to good?

I was going to post something similar. We can't afford free dining!

We stay off-site and eat a lot of our own food. Our Disney trips are quite inexpensive.

"Free" dining would mean a much higher cost.

Dawn

True. I have never done "free dining". I always think it's cheaper to stay off site or even stay on site with a code and pay for my meals as I eat them.
 
My appliances are almost 10 years old and doing fairly well (knock on wood). I really don't think it pays to get all of the bells and whistles, as those things can break. I want a reliable, good quality base model that's ready to work for me. I told that to my car salesman, and he said, "you don't want that model." Why, yes, we do, and that's what we bought.
We just replaced all our kitchen appliances.

It started with the oven—it was 10 years old, a floor model, and the internal temperatures were no longer accurate and could not be regulated. We had research for at least 6 months to find out what we needed and wanted. We knew the exact model we wanted and had visited several stores to look at it (and other models) to get a feel for it.

Then we waited for it to comedown to a reasonable price. Lowes had a sale in June, and we grabbed the oven. Now the oven lists for $300 more.

Same thing for our refrigerator—it was also 10 years old, a floor, and had electric problems (not to mention, 10 year old fridges cost a lot more to keep cool). Did our research, comparison shopped in various stores, found exactly the model we wanted. And finally, on the Independence Day weekend, Lowes had an unbeatable deal, which, combined with free haul away and an extra 5% off because we used our Lowes card, sealed the deal. We walked away with it for only $1800. The same fridge lists for $3000 right now.

If you want deals, know exactly what you want. And then wait.

P.S. The new microwave was a combined b-day gift from the in-laws. And the last piece, the dishwasher, was the most rushed... we had to buy something before the end of the year, as new energy law go into effect that cause all new dishwashers to have ridiculously long cycles, and they all have manual filters, which we hate with a passion. Still got a good deal, once we figured out exactly what we needed.
 
We just replaced all our kitchen appliances.

It started with the oven—it was 10 years old, a floor model, and the internal temperatures were no longer accurate and could not be regulated. We had research for at least 6 months to find out what we needed and wanted. We knew the exact model we wanted and had visited several stores to look at it (and other models) to get a feel for it.

Then we waited for it to comedown to a reasonable price. Lowes had a sale in June, and we grabbed the oven. Now the oven lists for $300 more.

Same thing for our refrigerator—it was also 10 years old, a floor, and had electric problems (not to mention, 10 year old fridges cost a lot more to keep cool). Did our research, comparison shopped in various stores, found exactly the model we wanted. And finally, on the Independence Day weekend, Lowes had an unbeatable deal, which, combined with free haul away and an extra 5% off because we used our Lowes card, sealed the deal. We walked away with it for only $1800. The same fridge lists for $3000 right now.

If you want deals, know exactly what you want. And then wait.

P.S. The new microwave was a combined b-day gift from the in-laws. And the last piece, the dishwasher, was the most rushed... we had to buy something before the end of the year, as new energy law go into effect that cause all new dishwashers to have ridiculously long cycles, and they all have manual filters, which we hate with a passion. Still got a good deal, once we figured out exactly what we needed.

I've essentially been using the same shopping technique. Granted I've been buying a bit more then I would normally. But I also went from a 1 bedroom to a 4 bedroom and really need furniture. I've been trying to keep my style very minimalist and clean so I'm having some built-ins put in. But I've also been buying some antique pieces. I just feel the quality is far better then what I'm seeing in the higher end shops. They just don't make furniture like they used to and when they do its just so ridiculously priced that is way out of my budget. Honestly I find a lot of mid-century modern pieces that look almost the same as what I'm tempted to buy to keep me happy. Ah did I mention I dig estate sales lol.

I've really been trying to think long term on my purchases though I have to admit as a bit of a geek I have a soft spot for the tech stuff. I do pass everything I don't use down to nieces and such so it never goes to waste. At least not without some good usage. I think for clothes I'm a bit conservative and like timeless pieces so I don't mind spending more for better quality stuff. I think it makes a big difference. Where I do find myself frustrated is with shoes why did everyone have to send there companies to china. The quality is just not the same as it was 10 years ago and if you want real quality you have to pay a small fortune for it. Something I can't always justify. So the cobbler is my friend.
 
I have always shopped for deals vs paying retail. My husband says I comparison shop things to death. To me a great deal has to be a whole lot better than retail.

The 100.00 tablet would have been a great deal for me because I have an actual need for a portable device right now (long story) but hey it doesn't matter since I missed out. Instead I guess I will be price shopping for a cheap net book.

"Free Dinning" was actually a great deal for us when it first came out. We are a bit commando, so we stay at a value. Since at first, full table service meals were included even on value stays, ( and no rental car is needed when staying on site) that was, IMO, a great deal. We went twice on that deal and the second time talked another couple into going too.
 

We just replaced all our kitchen appliances.

It started with the oven—it was 10 years old, a floor model, and the internal temperatures were no longer accurate and could not be regulated. We had research for at least 6 months to find out what we needed and wanted. We knew the exact model we wanted and had visited several stores to look at it (and other models) to get a feel for it.

Then we waited for it to comedown to a reasonable price. Lowes had a sale in June, and we grabbed the oven. Now the oven lists for $300 more.

Same thing for our refrigerator—it was also 10 years old, a floor, and had electric problems (not to mention, 10 year old fridges cost a lot more to keep cool). Did our research, comparison shopped in various stores, found exactly the model we wanted. And finally, on the Independence Day weekend, Lowes had an unbeatable deal, which, combined with free haul away and an extra 5% off because we used our Lowes card, sealed the deal. We walked away with it for only $1800. The same fridge lists for $3000 right now.

If you want deals, know exactly what you want. And then wait.

P.S. The new microwave was a combined b-day gift from the in-laws. And the last piece, the dishwasher, was the most rushed... we had to buy something before the end of the year, as new energy law go into effect that cause all new dishwashers to have ridiculously long cycles, and they all have manual filters, which we hate with a passion. Still got a good deal, once we figured out exactly what we needed.

My microwave and dishwasher (and washing machine) went at the exact same time. The washing machine was a month or so before warranty expired so that got fixed right away (no cost to me), but I lived without a micro and a dishwasher for several months until the prices dropped to where I felt comfortable buying. (the dishwasher has an automatic filter...there were plenty of models that did)
 
(the dishwasher has an automatic filter...there were plenty of models that did)
Not for long... you can expect that little feature to disappear next year as manufacturers move to comply with new Energy Star requirements. That's one reason we jumped on getting the new dishwasher so soon.
 
Personally, had I been able to get in on the $99 Touchpad (assuming I had the extra disposable cash to do so), I wouldn't have considered that a waste, since I'd have been able to get good use out of it, or use it as a present for Christmas, etc. Key point also though, is if I had the disposable cash to do it. So, in a way, you can definitely still stick to a budget, and include a few impulsive items every now and again, for the rare occasion that such a good deal comes up.

My local grocery store always circles the "savings" line on the receipt and the cashier always comments "you saved $50 (or whatever) this trip." I am always quick to point out, "No, I SPENT $40 this trip." :laughing:

THIS! The stores that do this--there's really only one chain in particular near me that does-- is typically the highest priced stuff normally; I only ever go there for any substantial amount of shopping if I find a particularly good deal, or know they have something on sale, etc. The "savings" they quote is just what made the price comparable or slightly better than the place up the road that's usually cheaper to begin with.
 
Your average joe doesn't bother to look at where there items are manufactured and don't care where something comes from.
That's a pretty broad statement to make. How many of us average Joe's have you been shopping with to know if we look at where the items are manufactured at or to know if we care?
 
That's a pretty broad statement to make. How many of us average Joe's have you been shopping with to know if we look at where the items are manufactured at or to know if we care?


Really??? Obviously you need something to pick on out of everything I said... Anyhow...Next time you go shopping see how many people flip an item over to see where its made. If the average American cared where stuff was made they wouldn't purchase items not made in USA. Also the Megalomarts wouldn't be popping up on every corner everywhere including small town USA. So yeah the average Joe doesn't care where there stuff comes from. They care how much it costs them. Ask big business if you don't believe me.

Actually I don't care what you believe. Have a nice day.....
 
I am finding some pretty decent deals on stuff but I don't need anything so I don't buy it. I am trying to get rid of stuff. I wish more people would focus on buying American products. I do make an effort but it is really hard to find anything that is anymore.

I would prefer for my computer parts, car batteries and appliances to be made in the US, unfortunately companies have to respond to shareholders and they want to see the biggest profits for the least amount of money.
 
I am finding some pretty decent deals on stuff but I don't need anything so I don't buy it. I am trying to get rid of stuff. I wish more people would focus on buying American products. I do make an effort but it is really hard to find anything that is anymore.

I would prefer for my computer parts, car batteries and appliances to be made in the US, unfortunately companies have to respond to shareholders and they want to see the biggest profits for the least amount of money.

I just want shoes that aren't made in China. Worst quality possible. I have some good Italian shoes that have lasted me FOR YEARS. I have a pair of boots (Canadian made) that I bought the year I got married and they are still going strong. Chinese shoes tend not to make it through a single season.
 
Reading this thread is depressing. My oven and refrigerator are 20 years old this year and I know they will need replacement. I don't want to buy items that only last half as long. It's not good for their environment or my wallet.

I do shop at KOHL's from time to time but I don't think they have quality clothing and it's really the only items that ever wore out before my daughter grew out of them. Who, in their right minds, buys items at full price at KOHL's? I don't think anyone does.
 
I am Canadian, and in my area, we don't really have many coupons, and our prices coupled with our 13% tax are high. We don't see great prices on goods like the OP is referencing.

Many people pick up stuff in US while on vacation or shopping trips, as some of it is cheaper priced, and more selection. We don't do it regularly, but some of our friends/family do, as there are deals on groceries and gas that we don't see over here.

That being said, I have noticed that your prices are getting higher. Electronics, computers & cameras are all priced pretty close, the same or higher than our items over here. I'm not noticing huge sales like the OP is speaking about, as we don't buy that kind of stuff in the US, but we have friends/family who buy furniture, cars, computers and appliances over there all of the time.

That being said, we don't buy much because most items are horrible quality. We have done exact same clothing comparisons between Canadian vs. US. For example, have purchased the exact same clothing items from Gymboree, Old Navy and Sears, and the Canadian ones last way longer than the same US item. We do shop at Kohl's, but are very picky about what we buy - kids' clothes like Mudd brand are garbage, but Sonoma is pretty good, and Ralph Lauren suits for my hubby are $160 instead of $500 over here, and so far, they are wearing very well.

It is interesting to see the differences between our countries. As mentioned already, most Americans seem to want cheap products, because they want to replace them very often. We are a bit different over here, but the Walmart mentality is creeping in over here as well. But for us, we spend thousands of dollars more for products that are made in Canada and US, as we find it's important to us, and the quality is better, but those items are getting harder and harder to find.

I'm seeing some better deals over here, in regards to bigger items, such as appliances, vacuums, furniture, etc., but it really depends upon what you are buying. We buy more expensive, high quality stuff, and that doesn't go on sale as much. Shoes for the kids are still $40-$50/pair, but I'd rather buy them in Canada, as the same shoes in the US may cost less, but they don't last as long.

This is an interesting thread, Tiger :)
 
The exchange rate is practically 1:1, FYI, not a huge difference.:)

It fluctuates between the same or more, not a big deal. You missed my point. It took retailers over here, years before they lowered prices - they are just starting to do non-stop sales in order to match US prices at places like Gymboree, Old Navy and Gap. But I've been told, as soon as your dollar gains more ground, the sales/promos will stop.

Our products cost more, and a big part of that is because they are sourced from different places, and the goods seem to be of a bit better quality. This is what we have found, as we have clothing from Canada and US.

When our dollar was worth more, prices were still high, but we are now seeing some price differences. So, I wonder if your items reflected better quality and prices rose like here, how would American consumers take that?

Thanks, Tiger :)
 
To eeyorethegreat,

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Do you also care about me? We just spent $300 to repair our Maytag Bravos washing machine that we purchased in June 2010 from Sears.

It conveniently stopped working a month after the warranty expired. Sears didn't care about us and was happy to take our $ to repair it.

I never thought a 1 year old washing machine could be such a lemon and I will never buy an appliance from Sears or the Maytag brand again.

Upon inspection- every part was stamped with a "Made in Mexico" label. We should have known better than to expect a company like Sears to actually sell well made appliances (NO washing machine should stop working after only 1 year of normal use, especially one so expensive as the Maytag Bravos).

Disappointed is an understatement.
 
Do you also care about me? We just spent $300 to repair our Maytag Bravos washing machine that we purchased in June 2010 from Sears.

It conveniently stopped working a month after the warranty expired. Sears didn't care about us and was happy to take our $ to repair it.

I never thought a 1 year old washing machine could be such a lemon and I will never buy an appliance from Sears or the Maytag brand again.

Upon inspection- every part was stamped with a "Made in Mexico" label. We should have known better than to expect a company like Sears to actually sell well made appliances (NO washing machine should stop working after only 1 year of normal use, especially one so expensive as the Maytag Bravos).

Disappointed is an understatement.

I am sorry you experienced that.

I seem to remember that Bravo were recalled, and there might be a class action suit?

Maytag has slipped immensely, as most, if not all of their stuff is not made in the USA anymore.

So sorry about that - the only extended warranty we pay for (we get it with our GOLD VISA), is for our HE machine, and it has been so worth it, as they come and clean for free, check seals, etc.

Maybe look into that for your next machine, as HE machines are a bit fickle.

Best of luck, Tiger
 
If you read boards like The Consumerist, you would already be aware that Sears' name is basically mud now.

Avoid, avoid, avoid. Save yourself major headaches.
 
Why else would a reputable American name like Sears be bought out from a bankrupt company like Kmart?

I though Kmart was crappier than Walmart for a long time. I still don't shop at that store. They've only brought it over to Sears stores.


I love watching American Pickers. It makes me appreciate the old stuff so much more. And to see the amount of people that go to great length to restore these items.

On another note, I was talking to a guy on one of my flights to Texas. He said even as there are advances in technology, every one else expects some one else to do it. Sure your teenage kid can use every gadget made, but few are willing to go the lengths to create it. In the 70's it was people in their garages, now it's large manufacturing companies. Schools are also failing the new inventors by not opening up new avenues. And more kids failing out of school, so there's fewer people to take those positions.


It will be interesting to see if China's new law will take place. Effecting mostly technology industry. They pretty much are trying to get patent rights to anything that is made there. They're pretty good at replicating already, this will give them the opprotunity to replicate even cheaper.

At the same time is this going to push companies to bring back production to America?
 












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