Who else has banned their child from watching...........

[Alicnwondrln]

well i only read the 1st post then scrolled up to read sherrys i think ill have to start at the beginning and read it all
wow

 

[niks81]

Wow. Just...wow. That has to be the nastiest, most uncalled for thing I have ever read on the DIS.

So you're 24 and you make a lot more money (as you quite frequently mention on the boards) than most of us will ever make. So what?

Should all my friends who are teachers and social workers quit their jobs so they can be CEO millionaires before they have kids?? They seem pretty happy. Mrs.Kreamer seems pretty happy.

I almost did not respond but I have to say, that was just rude, uncalled for and arrogant. And I think when Mrs. Kreamer told you to wait until you have your own kids to comment, she simply meant, it might be different when it's YOUR child watching something meant for adults. Her post did not sound rude at all.

Going away from this thread before it gets shut down...

Dana's mom is a teacher, so the answer to your question is NO.

Perhaps you find it rude, but on CB we find it rude everyday when just because we're twentysomethings we just aren't as experienced or smart. No, we're not mothers, and no we can't speak as though we are, but that's ok. For some odd reason on the DIS, if you get pregnant at 16 and work at McDonald's you're somehow glorified because you're a mother. What about for those of us that made different choices, decided to work hard and try to be in a good position before we have kids so that we can provide for them in the manner we'd like? Is there nothing to say for that kind of responsibility? Yes, I do give all of you mothers a great amount of credit for taking full responsibility for your child and offering him/her unconditional love, but let's face it--there is something to be said for Dana's notion of being in a solid financial position for her children, and I'm trying to figure out WHY people are so threatened by her decision to make sure that when her time is here to be a mother she is ready in every sense of the word--it stumps me. Everyone wants to have other members bowing down and singing Kumbaya because you are a parent no matter how prepared or unprepared you were. Don't hound us for being honest about our opinions when you all are so straightforward with yours about us "twentysomethings" that just are sooooo inexperienced and just couldn't possibly know what we are talking about. PLEASE.

Just as a sidenote, yes the condescending tone is frequent on this boards to the childless crew. In this thread alone.....

Speak AFTER you have kids, then you can all you want.

gotta agree with MrsKreamer, it's really easy to be opinionated based on no life experiences. I hope I and the boards are still around in another few years when some of the "twenty-somethings" become parents

Dana likes to talk big. That is all she is....talk. So an immature 24 y/o insulting me...I really couldn't care less.

Wow, Dana...that's quite an ego you have on you. I hope it serves you well.

So sorry, but excuse Dana for having a good job, being well educated, saving money for her children. Good for her. Yes, she does mention her stance on that often, just as many of you mention often how you are mothers and doesn't that just make you queen of the universe.

 

[Alicnwondrln]

Come on everyone cant we just get along
LOL

 

[danacara]

Hey, having driven home and eaten dinner, I'm sorry I phrased that post as harshly as I did, and MrsKreamer does deserve credit for her classy response.

I usually try not to drop to the same level of condescension that I'm shown; I failed here. When a mom who's 30 or 40 tells me that I'll "understand when I have a kid", I'll usually buy that their extra life experience has granted them insight over me. But when someone younger than me tries it ... and a mental review of significant decisions suggests to me that we should be at minimum viewed as equal on the wisdom scale ... I blew up. Very uncharacteristic for me, and I'm sorry if anyone's feelings were genuine.

I want you all to know something. (shhh .. I'm whispering ... lean in to hear) I know that the way I portray myself on this board lends itself to the lashout. I know that my life is very extreme, one end of the continuum. I know that many, many of you regard me as arrogant and egotistical and materialistic ... and I'm OK with it. I am a little bit arrogant, a little bit egotistical, a little bit materialistic. I'm also a little bit right, occasionally ... maybe not in this case ... and I'm a little bit of an example of an interesting fact: women today can have kids and stay home at 22 if they want, and it's a beautiful thing for that kid ... but they can also live it up and enjoy the fruits of all that labor your generation and the one before you did in crashing through those glass ceilings. Your daughter can live a life where she is only dependent on a man for love and not for money, travel the world over, go to grad school, where she can buy the house she wants ... where she can have any job she wants, do anything she wants, unencumbered ... where she can have your grandchild and never worry about food and money and shelter and "what if my husband gets laid off or leaves me." if that's not what she wants, if she wants to be a wife and a mother more than any of that? Cool. But the option is open to her in a way that it wasn't open to women in 1970. And if I'm going to be the vilified figure who represents that ... I'm completely cool with that too. It's not 1970 anymore.
I also realize that the way I talk is intimidating as heck to some.

Again, sorry for my phrasing, which was over the line and offensive to women who faced circumstances or made choices which are different from my own; I'm sorry.

 

[MrsKreamer]

Hey, having driven home and eaten dinner, I'm sorry I phrased that post as harshly as I did, and MrsKreamer does deserve credit for her classy response.

I usually try not to drop to the same level of condescension that I'm shown; I failed here. When a mom who's 30 or 40 tells me that I'll "understand when I have a kid", I'll usually buy that their extra life experience has granted them insight over me. But when someone younger than me tries it ... and a mental review of significant decisions suggests to me that we should be at minimum viewed as equal on the wisdom scale ... I blew up. Very uncharacteristic for me, and I'm sorry if anyone's feelings were genuine.

I want you all to know something. (shhh .. I'm whispering ... lean in to hear) I know that the way I portray myself on this board lends itself to the lashout. I know that my life is very extreme, one end of the continuum. I know that many, many of you regard me as arrogant and egotistical and materialistic ... and I'm OK with it. I am a little bit arrogant, a little bit egotistical, a little bit materialistic. I'm also a little bit right, occasionally ... maybe not in this case ... and I'm a little bit of an example of an interesting fact: women today can have kids and stay home at 22 if they want, and it's a beautiful thing for that kid ... but they can also live it up and enjoy the fruits of all that labor your generation and the one before you did in crashing through those glass ceilings. Your daughter can live a life where she is only dependent on a man for love and not for money, travel the world over, go to grad school, where she can buy the house she wants ... where she can have any job she wants, do anything she wants, unencumbered ... where she can have your grandchild and never worry about food and money and shelter and "what if my husband gets laid off or leaves me." if that's not what she wants, if she wants to be a wife and a mother more than any of that? Cool. But the option is open to her in a way that it wasn't open to women in 1970. And if I'm going to be the vilified figure who represents that ... I'm completely cool with that too. It's not 1970 anymore.
I also realize that the way I talk is intimidating as heck to some.

Again, sorry for my phrasing, which was over the line and offensive to women who faced circumstances or made choices which are different from my own; I'm sorry.

I am sorry too. I really didn't mean to highjack the thread, or even to talk down to you. I really didn't. As to my reponse, I too get defensive. Especially since I feel like I have to defend my choices in life. I think you lead a great life, it's just not for me....well not right now anyway(I plan on living for a very long time)! Look can we just exchange and call it a draw. I don't think that I am wiser or better....but can we be equals?

 

[transparant]

edited to erase my post. Dana - that post was very nice of you.

 

[grlpwrd]

I don't know what's worse...

bratty 16yo rich girls or women who hate on other women.

 

[niks81]

Ok I fold

Obviously, we "twentysomethings" without children get a leeetle bit defensive too

 

[danacara]

I don't know what's worse...

bratty 16yo rich girls or women who hate on other women.

Dude, when I was 16, we were functionally homeless. I'm verging on my twenty-fifth birthday. And I got to the DIS where I was 19, so hey, I practically grew up here. So I am a snot or a hater now?

 

[pirateofthecarolinas]

I understand completely how these young women feel. I was 31 before I had my first child. When I taught 2nd grade I had parents that wouldn't help their children do homework. I can't tell you how many times I heard, "you'll be a different teacher when you have children." I had high standards before children and I had high standards after having children. I didn't change.

I enjoy hearing from these young woman that chose the same path that I chose so many years ago. I see myself in many of them. I wouldn't trade my life experiences for anything. Let's all try to be more respectful of one another.

Lori

 

[crazelion]

Banning MTV from the home is downright silly to me. TV does not make kids bad. It's the parents that is not take respondability for the kids. Teach them right from wrong.

I don't buy that TV, video games, and music is bad influnce on kids. It's the parents always trying to be there friend always trying to talk things out but it's obvoius not getting through to kids. That just makes some kids grow up crazy get help from a head doctor. Some kids is to sheltered in life.

Parents of the surbrubs please teach your kids some street smarts before sending out in the real world. So they won't get shock and have a nervous breakdown because when they come out there sheltered world.

 

[danacara]

I enjoy hearing from these young woman that chose the same path that I chose so many years ago. I see myself in many of them. I wouldn't trade my life experiences for anything. Let's all try to be more respectful of one another.

Lori

Hey Lori - sweet thought, and you'd be amazed at the PMs I get from women who share your opinion, or who say: "I chose path A, but I'd really like my daughter to know that she can choose path B." It's really cool, a big reason why I like the DIS. And maybe a big reason why I'm as extreme as I am. I'm representin'!

- Dana (who is wearing her Manolos, all you Dana Hatas. And they look quite delectable on these feet! Trying on outfits for Friday charity ball!) Hahahaha ... kidding ... I swear I'm kidding

 

[transparant]

I don't buy that TV, video games, and music is bad influnce on kids. It's the parents always trying to be there friend always trying to talk things out but it's obvoius not getting through to kids. That just makes some kids grow up crazy get help from a head doctor. Some kids is to sheltered in life.

Parents of the surbrubs please teach your kids some street smarts before sending out in the real world. So they won't get shock and have a nervous breakdown because when they come out there sheltered world.

Ok....thanks for your advice. Not.

 

[septbride2002]

- Dana (who is wearing her Manolos, all you Dana Hatas. And they look quite delectable on these feet! Trying on outfits for Friday charity ball!) Hahahaha ... kidding ... I swear I'm kidding

Bragger
Hey niks81 - you , Dana, and I should start our own club.
~Amanda

 

[pirateofthecarolinas]

I have 3 children under the age of 11 and we have MTV. I remember being 18 and we got MTV on cable. Remember the ad campaign for areas that didn't receive MTV? I WANT MY MTV!

Anyhow, I don't let my children watch it. It is for mommy and daddy. They don't even know what channel it is on. I do enjoy watching the Sweet 16 show for it's comic relief.

Also, I saw my share of freshmen at Chapel Hill that couldn't handle being away from home. They went buck wild or they about had a nervous breakdown. NO JOKE!

I hope that my children will grow up to be independent. Right now, my mother says I baby them too much! It's a hard and difficult task to raise the perfect child.

Lori

 

[MUFFYCAT]

My 13 DD watches it. I just tell her you can watch want you never going to have! I told her she can have very nice party at a McDonalds party room.
I think it's funny to see such spoiled brats on that show.

 

[danacara]

Bragger
Hey niks81 - you , Dana, and I should start our own club.
~Amanda

Amanda, you are too cute. Hnd me a tissue? I have to wipe some of my snot off the Manolos.

 

[septbride2002]

Amanda, you are too cute. Hnd me a tissue? I have to wipe some of my snot off the Manolos.

You wound me!!! Meanwhile I'm sitting here in the ugliest socks you have ever seen in your life - but they are WARM!!! I vow to go on a shopping spree in April. My DH thinks I have a shoe obsession I told him that I will have reached the obsession point when I own a pair of Manolo's and can't wear them with anything

To keep the thread somewhat on topic - DH and I have seen the show and think it is just another perfect of over indulgence by the baby boomer generation to bratty children who grow up feeling they are entitled to everything.

~Amanda
wearing the black, white, green, and blue socks that my DH got me for Christmas.

 

[Dan Murphy]

I don't know that show, never watch the station. My kids are adultsm both still at home. They have it on at times, seem to enjoy it. If I could have our televison programming without that station, I would opt out tomorrow in a heartbeat, same as we did when HBO got too trashy for out family tastes. As mtv can not be opted off, it is there. I am certainly not going to tell my two kids what too watch, but both sem to know when I am around to turn to something else. Smart kids, LOL.

 

[goofygirl]

Ok I fold

Obviously, we "twentysomethings" without children get a leeetle bit defensive too

Not to mention the "thirtysomethings"!