Whitney Houston dead

[HonnyDipp]

I'm hearing that the 9 people in Bobby Brown's entourage were his kids. They were inside the church, but had to move several times to accommodate guests who had actual invitations. He then got angry when he was told his group couldn't stay because there was no where for them to sit.

 

[happygirl]

I'm hearing that the 9 people in Bobby Brown's entourage were his kids. They were inside the church, but had to move several times to accommodate guests who had actual invitations. He then got angry when he was told his group couldn't stay because there was no where for them to sit.

If that true, I think that sad, they were Whitney step kids, They should have been invited as well.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I loved it and thought it was well done.

Does anyone know if there was a private wake last night, and/or why the burial will be tomorrow?

The nurse in white uniform and cap was working hard at the service! I would like to know more about her.

I thought the speakers and performers did a great job.

I didn't see it as a showpiece, but as a nice sendoff.

More about Bobby Brown:

Bobby Brown leaves Houston funeral after a spat

By the CNN Wire Staff

updated 4:29 PM EST, Sat February 18, 2012

Newark, New Jersey (CNN) -- Singer Bobby Brown made a brief and dramatic appearance at ex-wife Whitney Houston's memorial service on Saturday, leaving abruptly after being told that his entourage couldn't sit together, police sources told CNN.

He arrived with several people and was apparently emotionally distraught, with red eyes and head hanging as he walked up the aisle of the New Hope Baptist Church in Newark, New Jersey. He approached Houston's casket, past it and back down the aisle.

On CNN's live video feed, Brown was shown standing out front of the church soon after the service began. He was not seated with family, friends or other celebrities at the front of the church.

"My children and I were invited to the funeral of my ex-wife Whitney Houston," Brown later said in a news statement. "We were seated by security and then subsequently asked to move on three separate occasions. I fail to understand why security treated my family this way and continue to ask us and no one else to move. Security then prevented me from attempting to see my daughter Bobbi Kristina.

"In light of the events, I gave a kiss to the casket of my ex-wife and departed as I refused to create a scene. ... I will continue to pay my respects to my ex-wife the best way I know how," the statement said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/18/showbiz/houston-funeral-bobby-brown/index.html

 

[DebbieB]

I loved it and thought it was well done.

Does anyone know if there was a private wake last night, and/or why the burial will be tomorrow?

The nurse in white uniform and cap was working hard at the service! I would like to know more about her.

I thought the speakers and performers did a great job.

I didn't see it as a showpiece, but as a nice sendoff.

More about Bobby Brown:

I read online that there was a viewing at the funeral home yesterday. On CNN they said the tradition in this church is to have a private burial the next day, with the family remaining as long as they wish after lowering the casket.

According to wiki (I know, not the most reliable), he had 3 children before Whitney and 1 after (only 2 1/2 years old). So that would be 3 additional people assuming he didn't bring the toddler.

 

[TLSnell1981]

He said he was going to be there for his daughter.

He was, but supposedly left. Mama Houston wanted his "entourage" to leave and refused to allow him to sit with his daughter.

TMZ is reporting that Bobby Brown left the Home-going because Whitney's family wouldn't allow his entourage to come with him. They allowed him to bring 2 guests, but he showed up with 9. Unbelievable.

It's being reported, the "entourage" were family members.

Here my opininon. She choose to sit her grandmother and her mother friends and family. She made her decision. She okay with him not being there. Then we should all be okay with it.
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I don't think, Bobbi Kristina has any control, over anything right now. The Houston family refused to allow Bobby to sit with her.

Here's the rest of Rev. Sharpton's comment:

Rev. Al Sharpton spoke of the incident with Bobby as he left the church, saying, "He showed nothing but love and respect for Whitney. I wish people would leave Bobby alone"

 

[SouthJersey]

For those of you who have an issue with the post title, sorry, but it is what it is. If you take away her singing ability, this woman is nothing above any other drug addict in the world. Take away her voice and she's the same drug user that allows their addiction to come before being a parent. Go spend as much time as you can researching her past attempts at overcoming her addiction, she barely made ANY effort to overcome it. She remained famous, top of charts, wealthy and had everything. In her eyes she didn't 'need' help. I believe CNN had said all of her '3' previous attempts were outpatient programs besides a rehabilitation effort for a crack addiction years ago. There was no real effort for her to beat her addiction. Twenty years of drug use, that's what, an average of 1 rehab attempt ever 7 years? I'm sorry, but to me that classifies as a junkie who CHOSE drugs.

 

[CPT Tripss]

I loved it and thought it was well done.

Does anyone know if there was a private wake last night, and/or why the burial will be tomorrow?

The nurse in white uniform and cap was working hard at the service! I would like to know more about her.

I thought the speakers and performers did a great job.

I didn't see it as a showpiece, but as a nice sendoff.

More about Bobby Brown:

Nurses are very common at funerals in black churches. They are there attend to people that are overcome by emotions. I was surprised to see only one (of course others may have been present off screen).

 

[CPT Tripss]

South Jersey . . . pretty freakin' offensive post.

I appreciate your service to your country, but you get no R E S P E C T for your post.

 

[hereyago]

Ok, does anyone know or recognize if Ray J was there? I thought I saw him as the pallbearers were taking the casket down the aisle. There was a guy stood up and kind of tried to touch it, then he sat back down and kind of crouched to the side.

 

[HonnyDipp]

Ok, does anyone know or recognize if Ray J was there? I thought I saw him as the pallbearers were taking the casket down the aisle. There was a guy stood up and kind of tried to touch it, then he sat back down and kind of crouched to the side.

CNN said Brandi and her brother Ray J was there.

 

[SouthJersey]

South Jersey . . . pretty freakin' offensive post.

I appreciate your service to your country, but you get no R E S P E C T for your post.

I've grown up around a lot of drug addictions first-hand. I've seen people never overcome them and I've seen people beat out addictions of over 10+ years and end up with six figure salaries. I have no pity for them, nor do I have any respect for someone who cannot overcome it for their child. Sadly, regardless of how much people want to call it a sickness, we as people ALL have freewill. She's been an addict for what, 20+ years? She's never gone to a true program, she's been into out-patient rehab what, 3 times in 20 years? I have ZERO respect for that. She never seeked true help. How do you REJECT your child's WISHES of you to go into rehab? It's been stated by her close reps. that she was begged to go into rehab weeks prior to her death.

I have no respect for people who turn to drugs recreationally in the first place, let alone for a drug addict who doesn't seek help. It's one thing if your truly trying and can't overcome it. Out-patient rehab 3 times in 20 years is NOT trying. Fact of the matter is she remained a star, remained in the upperclass of society and wealthly, best of everything, hotels, clothes, resorts, cars. She never wanted help because she was able to 'have it all' while doing whatever drugs she wanted. Therefore, dead or not, my label of her being a 'junkie', will not change. She put drugs before her daughter. If she had battles with rehab and interventions and lost the fight, then I'd give her credit. Junkies don't seek help and drugs remain their must.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

I've grown up around a lot of drug addictions first-hand. I've seen people never overcome them and I've seen people beat out addictions of over 10+ years and end up with six figure salaries. I have no pity for them, nor do I have any respect for someone who cannot overcome it for their child. Sadly, regardless of how much people want to call it a sickness, we as people ALL have freewill. She's been an addict for what, 20+ years? She's never gone to a true program, she's been into out-patient rehab what, 3 times in 20 years? I have ZERO respect for that. She never seeked true help. How do you REJECT your child's WISHES of you to go into rehab? It's been stated by her close reps. that she was begged to go into rehab weeks prior to her death.

I have no respect for people who turn to drugs recreationally in the first place, let alone for a drug addict who doesn't seek help. It's one thing if your truly trying and can't overcome it. Out-patient rehab 3 times in 20 years is NOT trying.

You DO know that there is a high percentage of alcoholism and drug use with our soldiers and vets...Young and old right?

Do you have respect for them.

I don't disagree with the opinion that is shown in the pic you posted...I just don't think this is the right thread for it. Just like the Whitney thing shouldn't have been brought up in another post going on right now.

 

[SouthJersey]

You DO know that there is a high percentage of alcoholism and drug use with our soldiers and vets...Young and old right?

Do you have respect for them.

I don't disagree with the opinion that is shown in the pic you posted...I just don't think this is the right thread for it. Just like the Whitney thing shouldn't have been brought up in another post going on right now.

Yeah, many vets are driven to drug and alcohol use. Whitney's party and hollywood lifestyle choices led to her problems, not night terrors, sprawling to the ground when a kid in your neighborhood lights off fireworks, seeing people literally turn to peices from a .50bmg. So you can't compare soldiers turning to drugs out of the things they've seen vs. partying getting the best of her.

But to answer your question, no I don't have respect for them either. I pity them slightly, but considering me and countless military friends are fine and in school, I don't respect them either for turning to drugs. And as far as the proper thread, I just saw the title as 'Whitney Houston dead' so I thought it was a general thread about her death.

 

[diz8297]

OK....I GET IT! She was a drug addict. She didn't fit some people's standards of conduct. She didn't "try hard enough" to overcome the drugs. Gotcha. But you know what? I loved her music. Espcially her early stuff. I was a fat, white girl who loved to sing and I loved her music. Her song the Greatest Love of All got me through some dark hours. During my parent's divorce, my Mom took me to her concert when she couldn't afford it because she knew that her music made me happy. I respected that she wore a cross and spoke of her love of Jesus. So yes, I feel bad that she died. I know she wasted her talent and abused her body. But she also brought a lot of joy and she brought light to some dark days of mine. And yes, I shed more than one tear as they carried her casket out of the church to the sound of her voice. I appreciate that soldiers sacrifice their lives and that innocent people die every day, but those facts don't mean that people can't mourn what a famous person may have meant to them in some small way.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Yeah, many vets are driven to drug and alcohol use. Whitney's party and hollywood lifestyle choices led to her problems, not night terrors, sprawling to the ground when a kid in your neighborhood lights off fireworks, seeing people literally turn to peices from a .50bmg. So you can't compare soldiers turning to drugs out of the things they've seen vs. partying getting the best of her.

But to answer your question, no I don't have respect for them either. I pity them slightly, but considering me and countless military friends are fine and in school, I don't respect them either for turning to drugs. And as far as the proper thread, I just saw the title as 'Whitney Houston dead' so I thought it was a general thread about her death.

Well consider you and your friends some of the lucky ones.

It doesn't give you the right to judge other people for their issues nor does it make you better than them.

 

[SouthJersey]

OK....I GET IT! She was a drug addict. She didn't fit some people's standards of conduct. She didn't "try hard enough" to overcome the drugs. Gotcha. But you know what? I loved her music. Espcially her early stuff. I was a fat, white girl who loved to sing and I loved her music. Her song the Greatest Love of All got me through some dark hours. During my parent's divorce, my Mom took me to her concert when she couldn't afford it because she knew that her music made me happy. I respected that she wore a cross and spoke of her love of Jesus. So yes, I feel bad that she died. I know she wasted her talent and abused her body. But she also brought a lot of joy and she brought light to some dark days of mine. And yes, I shed more than one tear as they carried her casket out of the church to the sound of her voice. I appreciate that soldiers sacrifice their lives and that innocent people die every day, but those facts don't mean that people can't mourn what a famous person may have meant to them in some small way.

No, I'm more annoyed toward people all out like deeply upset over her death. It's one thing to find something sad, but people who are distraught over her death, that don't know her, is just rediculous.

My post isn't about soldiers etc., if I was a janitor in Europe somewhere I would still feel the same way toward the response towards her death. For example, here in Jersey, Governor Christie is lowering flags to half staff for her. That is INSANE.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

It should be explained that whatever trouble Brown had at the funeral with security would have come from Pat Houston’s brother’s detail.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfr...xplains-leaving-funeral-but-riff-raff-stayed/

My children and I were invited to the funeral of my ex-wife Whitney Houston," he said, referring to his three kids from previous relationships Landon, 26, La'princia, 11, Robert Jr., 10, plus Cassius, his two-year-old with wife Alicia Etheridge. "

Earlier this week, a source told Us that there is still underlying tension between Houston's relatives and Brown, who married Houston in 1992. Their divorce was finalized in 2007.

"There are family members who felt Bobby drove Whitney into drugs," one source explained. "But now Bobby is clean and Whitney has unfortunately passed. So there's resentment."

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity...hitney-houstons-funeral-2012182#ixzz1mmHs7GOe

Brown's friends and family, from the projects of Boston, also felt an element of when he hooked up with WH. The tensions among them are longstanding.

Children:

Bobby and Whitney have one daughter. Whitney had a miscarriage on December 19, 1996 in New York.

•Bobby Kristina Houston Brown: Born in 1993.

Bobby has other children. In 2004, he spent a brief time in jail for missing child support payments.

•Landon Brown: Born in 1985. His mother is Melika Williams.
•LaPrincia Brown: Born in 1990. Her mother is Kim Ward.
•Robert (Bobby) Brown Jr: Born in 1991. His mother is Kim Ward.
•Cassius Brown: Born in 2009. His mother is Alicia Etheridge. Bobby and Alicia became engaged in May 2010.

http://marriage.about.com/od/entertainmen1/a/whitneyhouston.htm

The strained relationship between Kim Ward-Bobby Brown probably just got a little more awkward. The two have two teenage children together, though they are no longer a couple. A warrant was issued for Bobby Brown 's arrest, after he had fallen $45,000 behind on child support payments. He was scheduled to appear in a Massachusetts court, but failed to appear. A judge ordered that Brown be arrested the next time his is Massachusetts.

http://www.zimbio.com/Kim+Ward+Bobby+Brown

 

[DebbieB]

No, I'm more annoyed toward people all out like deeply upset over her death. It's one thing to find something sad, but people who are distraught over her death, that don't know her, is just rediculous.

My post isn't about soldiers etc., if I was a janitor in Europe somewhere I would still feel the same way toward the response towards her death. For example, here in Jersey, Governor Christie is lowering flags to half staff for her. That is INSANE.

I'm not sure who is "deeply upset" or "distraught", at least on this board. Anytime I see a funeral on TV it may bring a tear to my eye but it's not because I'm "distraught". The media grabs a story like this and runs with it, talking non-stop about it for ratings. It becomes more of a gossip or curiosity thing.

 

[SouthJersey]

Well consider you and your friends some of the lucky ones.

It doesn't give you the right to judge other people for their issues nor does it make you better than them.

As long as human's have thought processes, we'll always judge. When you go to a car dealership and get a maroon honda because you don't like the blue, you judged. If you don't want your daughter to date a guy with full sleeve tattoos, you've judged. Judging is judging and one scenario being more sad than another, doesn't make it wrong.

Anyone who turns to drugs by recreational use and succumbs to the addiction, is lesser than me and you. She's better than a child abusing non-drug addict, but she is lesser than a good parent who's not on drugs.

Here's an example; two obese children are made fun of for their weight. Neither one has a medical condition and they have perfect home lives, they just are very sedentary and eat in extreme excess. One decides to start dieting, riding his bike around the neighborhood everyday after school and loses the weight. Both grow up, the still obese child now has diabetes and cholesterol problems. Do you pity him? He had the same choice as the other child who is now currently healthy and in shape, it's his fault, he never seeked help, he should be blamed for his current ailments

Whitney Houston deserves to be judged. She had a problem and sought NO. I will judge a person ALL day that will not seek help for their child, if for nothing else. I wouldn't judge her if she kept losing battles against drug addiction, that's NOT her case. She was content with her life and to her the drugs weren't holding her back. That's nothing to pity, it's her fault.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

As long as human's have thought processes, we'll always judge. When you go to a car dealership and get a maroon honda because you don't like the blue, you judged. If you don't want your daughter to date a guy with full sleeve tattoos, you've judged. Judging is judging and one scenario being more sad than another, doesn't make it wrong.

Anyone who turns to drugs by recreational use and succumbs to the addiction, is lesser than me and you. She's better than a child abusing non-drug addict, but she is lesser than a good parent who's not on drugs.

Here's an example; two obese children are made fun of for their weight. Neither one has a medical condition and they have perfect home lives, they just are very sedentary and eat in extreme excess. One decides to start dieting, riding his bike around the neighborhood everyday after school and loses the weight. Both grow up, the still obese child now has diabetes and cholesterol problems. Do you pity him? He had the same choice as the other child who is now currently healthy and in shape, it's his fault, he never seeked help, he should be blamed for his current ailments

Whitney Houston deserves to be judged. She had a problem and sought NO. I will judge a person ALL day that will not seek help for their child, if for nothing else. I wouldn't judge her if she kept losing battles against drug addiction, that's NOT her case. She was content with her life and to her the drugs weren't holding her back. That's nothing to pity, it's her fault.

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