White NAACP Leader Who Passed As Black

[AnAmericanInDisney]

I have no problem with that but why did she have to disguise herself to do that? Or did she?

Disguise herself how? She made herself to appear the way she wanted to appear. She wore darker make up, permed her hair, and used different product on it. Is Caitlyn Jenner disguising herself?

 

[Planogirl]

Disguise herself how? She made herself to appear the way she wanted to appear. She wore darker make up, permed her hair, and used different product on it. Is Caitlyn Jenner disguising herself?

She made herself appear black. I've seen her earlier pictures.

Now you can argue that she felt like she should look this way. But she did alter her appearance no matter what the reason was. Could a blond haired, blue eyes individual do what she did? That to me is kind of sad when you think about that.

 

[JanaDee]

She's a liar with zero integrity and possibly mentally ill.

 

[minkydog]

She was trying to help people who were discriminated against- and apparently doing a good job.

Indeed, everything I've read about her indicates that she is very good at what she does, advocating for the AA community. So why did she need to lie and deceive people? That's the part I don't get. She couldn't advocate for AA community as a white person?

 

[AnAmericanInDisney]

She's a liar with zero integrity and possibly mentally ill.

I think she's brave. She lived who she felt she was. She looks better now than before. What if on her deathbed she looked back wishing she could have been black like her brothers and shared their experiences? Now, she's done it. She doesn't have to regret living a lie.

 

[DisneyLuver2013]

Plus how does one "feel" black when one isn't? I can see sexual confusion but I don't get racial confusion. You aren't really different IMO except for your skin tone and often sadly your experiences.

You took the thoughts right out of my head. Everyone (sorry, I should say most people) says that there is no difference in humans besides the color of our skin or our skin tone. What does "feeling black" even mean? Perhaps I really like the Hispanic culture, language, and food, but I don't feel that I was actually supposed to be born Hispanic or try to make myself "appear" to be Hispanic or "act" Hispanic (whatever that is supposed to mean).

 

[AnAmericanInDisney]

Indeed, everything I've read about her indicates that she is very good at what she does, advocating for the AA community. So why did she need to lie and deceive people? That's the part I don't get. She couldn't advocate for AA community as a white person?

She wanted people to know her as "black," like transgender people want to be known as their chosen gender. You know as a white person, lots of black people would not have listened to or heard her message.

 

[AnAmericanInDisney]

You took the thoughts right out of my head. Everyone (sorry, I should say most people) says that there is no difference in humans besides the color of our skin or our skin tone. What does "feeling black" even mean? Perhaps I really like the Hispanic culture, language, and food, but I don't feel that I was actually supposed to be born Hispanic or try to make myself "appear" to be Hispanic or "act" Hispanic (whatever that is supposed to mean).

She grew up with a lot of black people, including her brothers. She wants to be one of them. How does that hurt anyone?

 

[Disneylover99]

She grew up with a lot of black people, including her brothers. She wants to be one of them. How does that hurt anyone?

Her lies have affected her family. She asked her brothers to lie and say they were related by blood.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Why should she pay back scholarships? She felt black and has declared herself black. Should transgender boy-to-girls not be able to apply for scholarships meant for girls?

If a D student feels like and declares herself an A student, should she able to apply for and receive scholarships intended for A students?

 

[Bluestars]

If she took funds or scholarships meant for minority's then she should be prosecuted for fraud. There is a way to fight for civil rights without lying about her race .. She went as far as to " disguise " herself and that's not ok it's weird.If she is so good at her job she could have done the same as " white" .

The only issue I have with what she has done is if she lied on any applications and received acceptance or funds because of her lies. That is not ok. I am fine with her wanting to be black and relating to certain cultures. However, lying on applications is not acceptable and is illegal.

 

[AnAmericanInDisney]

The only issue I have with what she has done is if she lied on any applications and received acceptance of funds because of her lies. That is not ok. I am fine with her wanting to be black and relating to certain cultures. However, lying on applications is not acceptable and illegal.

Would Caitlyn be lying if she put on her Driver's License that she is a woman? What's the difference?

 

[AnAmericanInDisney]

The only issue I have with what she has done is if she lied on any applications and received acceptance or funds because of her lies. That is not ok. I am fine with her wanting to be black and relating to certain cultures. However, lying on applications is not acceptable and is illegal.

I'm not sure that grade identity is as relevant an issue as gender and or race identity.

 

[fly girl]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnash...ays-she-warned-dont-blow-my-cover#.tr8Kx9p87j

Do you think this is wrong?

Should she be given an award for bravery like Caitlyn Jenner?

I'm going to get flamed but my big mouth can't resist.

I have no problem with her identifying with a culture and wanting to be a part of it. But she lied numerous times about her background and about her life experiences. She even made claims about hate crimes against her that the authorities said never happened. I don't fault her for wanting to be anything if she did so with honesty.


*puts on my flame suit*

I am happy for Caitlyn Jenner. No doubt it was a difficult choice. Being truly happy in your own skin is something she now has. But the Arthur Ashe Bravery Award should've been given to Lauren Hill. Facing terminal cancer she raised millions of dollars for others. She didn't do it for herself -- at 19 she showed what true bravery looks like.

 

[Mizzoufan]

Would Caitlyn be lying if she put on her Driver's License that she is a woman? What's the difference?

I don't think Caitlyn thing is the same thing at all. Two totally different subjects.

 

[Planogirl]

So what does it mean to feel black? No one is answering that.

In my view, someone who is black isn't different from me except as an individual of course and their look. Is this all about how someone looks? Aren't we supposed to move beyond that?

I also don't think that the Caitlyn transformation is anything like this. You are talking about how someone looks versus how someone feels in their mind. I don't really understand the feels like a woman part either but I can see that it could happen. I don't at all understand the feels like a black individual bit at all. What does that mean?

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

Sounds like it's an issue of deception versus being open. Seems pretty easy to see the difference to me.

 

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

I don't understand how you can equate the gender identity and the race identity as the same thing.What she did was not brave. She was deceiving people making them believe that she was black when in reality she was white. If she wanted to be an advocate, and fight for peoples rights she could have easily done it but she also took scholarship falsely.

If believe I am 5'11, but in reality I am 4'10. Can I tell other people that I am 5'11 because I feel like I am that? If I believe that I am 80 years old but in reality I am in my 20s, can I do my make up to make me look significantly older and get all the benefits of a senior?

 

[Mizzoufan]

So what does it mean to feel black? No one is answering that.

In my view, someone who is black isn't different from me except as an individual of course and their look. Is this all about how someone looks? Aren't we supposed to move beyond that?

I also don't think that the Caitlyn transformation is anything like this. You are talking about how someone looks versus how feels in their mind. I don't really understand the feels like a woman part either but I can see that it could happen. I don't at all understand the feels like a black individual at all. What does that mean?

To me it seems like saying you feel black/white would divide people instead of bring people together.

 

[DisneyLuver2013]

I'm thinking about going fishing later today. Does anyone know where I can find some bait?

Sounds like it's an issue of deception versus being open. Seems pretty easy to see the difference to me.

Aren't you supposed to be fishing right now?!