White NAACP Leader Who Passed As Black

[barkley]

I am in a kooky mood, but I would love to see Tyler Perry dress up as Madea and interview her and tell her she is crazy as heck ,lol

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Disclaimer--eyes for lies had a perfect track record until she fell for the Balloon Boy story a few years back. I think she got one other case wrong as well.

But here is what she says a it Rachel.

I would love for Rachel to take a lie detector test.

http://www.eyesforlies.com/blog/2015/06/rachel-dolezal/

 

[barkley]

hopefully the final local update-

the city council of Spokane held a meeting today and voted on the 3 ombudsman panel members (including Rachel) who had been the subject of a whistleblower complaint and investigation of the last couple of months (the investigation had 8 findings of behavioral misconduct). all 3 had been given the opportunity to resign earlier in the week-1 resigned, 1 requested and was given an extension to respond to the city's request for resignation, and Rachel was voted out (the city reported that while she released comments to the national media about the situation she never contacted the city in regards to the letter she was sent requesting her resignation).

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

hopefully the final local update-

the city council of Spokane held a meeting today and voted on the 3 ombudsman panel members (including Rachel) who had been the subject of a whistleblower complaint and investigation of the last couple of months (the investigation had 8 findings of behavioral misconduct). all 3 had been given the opportunity to resign earlier in the week-1 resigned, 1 requested and was given an extension to respond to the city's request for resignation, and Rachel was voted out (the city reported that while she released comments to the national media about the situation she never contacted the city in regards to the letter she was sent requesting her resignation).

Wait. What? Was this something separate or is this linked to her recent troubles?

 

[barkley]

separate-

on April 16th a whistleblower complaint was filed with the city against 3 members of the ombudsman commission including Rachel (who was the chair). the city of Spokane hired a law firm to investigate-and that investigation went from May 4th to June 5th.

 

[DizBelle]

I saw an awesome article posted. (Maybe here a few pages back.)

Basically ripping her. She, a white girl posing as a black girl is stealing one of the few coveted positions that black people have the best chance for. A poster here called the article racist, but I think it has credence.

If a member of a majority race passes themselves off as a minority member and garners a position where their appearance as a minority is most beneficial, then they did not help the minority. They hindered them. Someone lost that job to her. Was she given an extra edge because of a spray tan? If so, then she did nothing for equality. She stole a position.

Unfortunately, evidence would not be available so hard to prove or disprove.

I are that Al Sharpton has shamed the parents for outing her.

I missed the memo that parents should
Validate the lies of their children.

It is illegal in this country to discriminate based on race. You cannot deny someone a job because of their race. By the same token, you cannot require someone to be of a certain race to hire them for a job. So, Rachel didn't steal anything. All applicants of all races had equal chance at the job. If they hired her, they must have thought she had some merit over the other applicants. If they didn't verify her claims or qualifications for the job, that's their fault.

 

[Geoff_M]

OK, for all of the "Race is determined by your DNA, period!" absolutists on this thread, should this genetically "white" woman be allowed to continue to call herself "African-American"?

A woman who thought she was black found out after 70 years that she was actually white.

Verda Byrd on Converse tells KENS-TV that she found out she was white when she started searching for her biological parents in 2013.

“My adoptive mother, Edwinna Wagner, never told me that she had adopted a white baby,” Byrd explained. “She took it to her grave that she had a white daughter.”

...

Despite discovering she was white, Byrd still identifies as African-American.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

It is illegal in this country to discriminate based on race. You cannot deny someone a job because of their race. By the same token, you cannot require someone to be of a certain race to hire them for a job. So, Rachel didn't steal anything. All applicants of all races had equal chance at the job. If they hired her, they must have thought she had some merit over the other applicants. If they didn't verify her claims or qualifications for the job, that's their fault.

I've been denied a job because of my race. Told so straight to my face.

 

[mom2rtk]

OK, for all of the "Race is determined by your DNA, period!" absolutists on this thread, should this genetically "white" woman be allowed to continue to call herself "African-American"?

How is she "genetically" white if she's adopted?

I can't imagine what a shock it is to find such secrets and misinformation in your past. But that doesn't change reality.

 

[Geoff_M]

How is she "genetically" white if she's adopted?

Because both of Ms. Byrd's biological parents were of the white race. It's been posited on this thread by many that race is solely a function of one's DNA and one cannot be born of one race and then be considered a member of another race. The only real difference between Ms. Dolezal and Ms. Byrd is the identity of the deceiver. In the case of Dolezal it was herself, and with Byrd is was her adoptive mother. While I completely understand people's visceral reaction to Dolezal's deceptive "back stories" to support her "self-identified" race, most of these same people also declared that DNA alone barred Dolezal from calling herself "black" and being accepted as such. But I wonder if these same people will require Byrd, now that she knows the truth, to also stop calling herself "African-American" or "black" for the same reason.

 

[Art 1]

I've been denied a job because of my race. Told so straight to my face.

I was too and also told to my face. That was a long time ago. That's when I knew that I could never work for anyone else and have my fate decided by others.

 

[BillBrasky]

Haven't read the thread but just to throw in my 2 cents on the topic. I support anyone's right to identify as anything: black, white, gay, straight, trans, cabbage, banana, stitch fan, whatever. My only issue is did her perceived race help her career? Did she fool the NAACP members who made her a leader? Or the people who hired her at her university may have seen her as more qualified to teach African studies as a black woman... and how did this effect others?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

It is illegal in this country to discriminate based on race. You cannot deny someone a job because of their race. By the same token, you cannot require someone to be of a certain race to hire them for a job. So, Rachel didn't steal anything. All applicants of all races had equal chance at the job. If they hired her, they must have thought she had some merit over the other applicants. If they didn't verify her claims or qualifications for the job, that's their fault.

Since race is a visible characteristic, you cannot prove nor disprove its part in her hiring.

 

[barkley]

Haven't read the thread but just to throw in my 2 cents on the topic. I support anyone's right to identify as anything: black, white, gay, straight, trans, cabbage, banana, stitch fan, whatever. My only issue is did her perceived race help her career? Did she fool the NAACP members who made her a leader? Or the people who hired her at her university may have seen her as more qualified to teach African studies as a black woman... and how did this effect others?

I can speak from the perspective of having a child who is a student at the university where she taught.

there is a tremendous feeling among many of the students who took Rachel's classes of being defrauded because a large portion of her teaching methodology was based on sharing/integrating her life experiences into the subjects she taught (her now known to be fraudulent life experiences). Rachel would take subject matter within a class and relate it to some experience she supposedly had to give 'real life' examples which the students were led to believe were authentic examples.

when a student is taking a course on the black student experience on a predominantly white campus, and the instructor is repeatedly integrating stories of her own personal struggles and experiences as a black student on a white campus but is later proven to have falsified all she's told-it calls into question the entirety of the courses she's taught and the quality of education her students have received.


as for her perceived race helping her career-the police ombudsman committee on which she was chair was formed with the following as a qualification for appointment-

"the following characteristics shall be considered during the appointment process...

...the makeup of the commission reflects the diversity of the people most likely to have contact with members of the police department including geographic, racial and disability diversity...".

Rachel attested on her application that she was diverse by virtue of being African American, Caucasian and Native American which certainly helped her appear more culturally diverse and therefore more desirable as a candidate for appointment than if she had been honest.