Which new resort/construction will begin sales first?

[maui22]

Disney has announced two DVC projects will open in 2024. Cabins at Fort Wilderness aka Fort Wilderness Cabins and Polynesian tower.
They have referred to Cabins at Fort Wilderness as the 17th association, but that doesn't mean it will go on sale first.
Polynesian tower could be same association as PVB, thus no new association. Or it could start sales after CFW/FWC making it the 18th association.

Regardless, if timelines provided by Disney are correct we should be getting close.

When do you think Disney will start sales for each project?

 

[Sandisw]

I think the cabins will open first and then the Poly tower, which could explain why it was deemed 17th as Poy tower could then still be new and the 18th.

But, regardless, the cabins seem to be something that can be up and running for sales sooner since they don’t have to have all of them done before they open it since they are stand along units.

 

[maui22]

I think the cabins will open first and then the Poly tower, which could explain why it was deemed 17th as Poy tower could then still be new and the 18th.

But, regardless, the cabins seem to be something that can be up and running for sales sooner since they don’t have to have all of them done before they open it since they are stand along units.

What is your guess on when CFW sales will start?

I thought maybe they rushed to sell out BPK/VGF because CFW sales would start December/January timeline. Perhaps they announce at the DVC annual meeting?

 

[Sandisw]

My guess is sales start Feb/March. I can see them starting Poly tower sales at a similar time, even if it opens later in the year.

 

[Hoppy-tn]

Cabins with restrictions first so that no one can complain about riviera being the only one with them (at Disney world) when the Polynesian tower goes on sale as same association.

 

[Sandisw]

Cabins with restrictions first so that no one can complain about riviera being the only one with them (at Disney world) when the Polynesian tower goes on sale as same association.

Oh, I’m positive that we will know the decision of Poly tower before FW cabins start sales.

Last year, DVD updated the POS to include VDH end of year…so my guess it will do the same with These two.

 

[Robbie Cottam]

Oh, I’m positive that we will know the decision of Poly tower before FW cabins start sales.

Last year, DVD updated the POS to include VDH end of year…so my guess it will do the same with These two.

Not saying you’re wrong, but I would like to know why you think that….
it would seem like that could hurt sales at CFW ….

 

[Sandisw]

Not saying you’re wrong, but I would like to know why you think that….
it would seem like that could hurt sales at CFW ….

The two are going to be selling pretty much the same time regardless. So, the decision as to whether Poly tower will or will not be new or carry restrictions is going to have the same impact on sales, whether they announce at the end of the year or wait a bit.

Updating the POS year end to update the budgets always happens. It just makes sense that they will do it for all of 2024 changes at once. It’s also why I believe we will find out about it this way, via filings, then DVC making a big announcement.

They slipped in the resale restrictions for VDH that way.

Which is why I lean new because for me, I just think it will be easier to sell both with the same expiration and same rules.

 

[Robbie Cottam]

The two are going to be selling pretty much the same time regardless. So, the decision as to whether Poly tower will or will not be new or carry restrictions is going to have the same impact on sales, whether they announce at the end of the year or wait a bit.

Updating the POS year end to update the budgets always happens. It just makes sense that they will do it for all of 2024 changes at once. It’s also why I believe we will find out about it this way, via filings, then DVC making a big announcement.

They slipped in the resale restrictions for VDH that way.

Which is why I lean new because for me, I just think it will be easier to sell both with the same expiration and same rules.

That would also explain why they dumped VGF this summer …

I like it

 

[TheDailyMoo]

We haven't talked about CFW pricing in any of the threads have we? Like the hundreds of pages of Poly 2 speculation.

 

[Robbie Cottam]

We haven't talked about CFW pricing in any of the threads have we? Like the hundreds of pages of Poly 2 speculation.

Do you think that means sales will be slow at CFW?

 

[TheDailyMoo]

Do you think that means sales will be slow at CFW?

I garner interest in DVC mainly from these pages and I haven't seen much spoken about the cabins. Considering many think they'll be online first before Poly yet no one is really talking about them then yes I'd have to say there is less interest...as of now anyway. If they come out with a beautiful cabin and/or direct pricing in the $140s let's say then I think there's going to be quite an influx of interest.

 

[maui22]

My guess is sales start Feb/March. I can see them starting Poly tower sales at a similar time, even if it opens later in the year.

If they start sales around the same time, wouldn’t they miss some revenue. Seems they always raise the base price for direct resorts right before each new resort starts selling. If they wait some number of months between the two, they can have two price increases. It could make any incentives look good compared to the other properties. Add on CFW as opposed to __ at the new price. Then add on at tower as opposed to __ now priced at even higher price.

Only the small percentage of us who watch DVC closely notice. For most buyers, the emails, Disney advertising, and guides are all they know about prices.

 

[Robbie Cottam]

I garner interest in DVC mainly from these pages and I haven't seen much spoken about the cabins. Considering many think they'll be online first before Poly yet no one is really talking about them then yes I'd have to say there is less interest...as of now anyway. If they come out with a beautiful cabin and/or direct pricing in the $140s let's say then I think there's going to be quite an influx of interest.

I would rather see them build reflections …
anyone know anything about what happened there

 

[Jwaire]

Do you think that means sales will be slow at CFW?

I garner interest in DVC mainly from these pages and I haven't seen much spoken about the cabins. Considering many think they'll be online first before Poly yet no one is really talking about them then yes I'd have to say there is less interest...as of now anyway. If they come out with a beautiful cabin and/or direct pricing in the $140s let's say then I think there's going to be quite an influx of interest.

Of all the new DVC resorts, I feel like the CFW are the most risky. It's a timeshare glamping trailer. You may win over some Fort Wilderness loyalists, but that's a tough sell to me.

It will start where all current selling properties start—at least at $230 per point. The question becomes how many points per night? I would say it needs to be priced around a 1-bedroom at some place like CCV and not a point more or it's not worth it.

Prior to DVC, the cabins have always been heavily discounted especially to cast members because they were never full.

For example, next summer you could stay at the Cabins for $455/night or Wilderness Lodge (Standard View Hotel Side) for $576/night.

The transportation there is pretty bad with an internal bus system that takes you to bus stop that takes you to a park, so better keep those maintenance fees well under RIV too.

 

[Ruttangel]

direct pricing in the $140s let's say then I think there's going to be quite an influx of interest.

They can generate interest by it being the cheapest way to get 6 people in a DVC property via the point charts.
No way it will be lower than $200pp

 

[BeachClub2014]

Of all the new DVC resorts, I feel like the CFW are the most risky. It's a timeshare glamping trailer. You may win over some Fort Wilderness loyalists, but that's a tough sell to me.

It will start where all current selling properties start—at least at $230 per point. The question becomes how many points per night? I would say it needs to be priced around a 1-bedroom at some place like CCV and not a point more or it's not worth it.

Prior to DVC, the cabins have always been heavily discounted especially to cast members because they were never full.

For example, next summer you could stay at the Cabins for $455/night or Wilderness Lodge (Standard View Hotel Side) for $576/night.

The transportation there is pretty bad with an internal bus system that takes you to bus stop that takes you to a park, so better keep those maintenance fees well under RIV too.

Totally agree. I just don't see these trailers appealing to folks to the extent that you'd want to buy there as your home resort.

 

[we"reofftoneverland]

I think $240 a point because there are not that many of them and all the dog owners. Gross if you ask me. We have a dog and love dogs but I don’t want to stay in a resort with dogs or a resort where people let their dogs hang out on the sofas etc. Also Disneyland is $230 a point but you have to pay taxes, other wise Disneyland would be higher.

 

[Yankee626]

The minimum buy in may present a problem for sales. If the point charts start between 250-400 per week it will be a tough sale to perspective buyers at 55K to 70K. For the people who have that amount of cash for a timeshare they may want something more user friendly and closer to the parks. Thats a lot of money to Glamp for a week a year. Be cheaper to buy an RV. In my opinion the only way this works is to include Golf carts and have a pool along the lines of the Beach Club with a lake theme. Maybe a nice clubhouse with a top restaurant.

 

[Wendysofftoneverland]

When I called right before the VGF price increase, they said spring 2024 for Poly and fall 2024 for cabins. As simple as it would have been to add more VGF since we already have a small contract there, or as much as I love the original Poly, we are probably most likely to buy at Fort Wilderness. My parents could care less about the parks, and they'd rather not pull their trailer all the way to Florida, so it's probably the only way we will have any multigenerational DVC trips. I am just hoping for a reasonable point chart. Expecting the point price to be between $207 and $230.