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What site?4/13 update
newly posted resale contracts at about 50% of average
What site?4/13 update
newly posted resale contracts at about 50% of average
I use 5 sites that I can time or sequence trackWhat site?
I'm curious for your opinion and reasoning because I have appreciated your postsI use 5 sites that I can time or sequence track
I think that the fact that there has not been a flood of new contracts come on the market has kept the market orderly in as much as there are adequate buyers at a moderately reduced price.I'm curious for your opinion and reasoning because I have appreciated your postsDo you think less contracts being listed plays into the theory prices might drop, go against the theory, or just an observance with no real indication?
Thanks! That makes a lot of sense =)I think that the fact that there has not been a flood of new contracts come on the market has kept the market orderly in as much as there are adequate buyers at a moderately reduced price.
While there are individual resort variations from my original guesses the rate of drop is in line so far. If buyers back away or wait and or more need to sell the price decline could accelerate, but as of now I do not see anything in the short term indicate that will happen.
My perception is that the economic impact has been less of a factor than I expected with the frustration of point loss and not knowing when DVC will re-open and how bad the point overload and reservation challenges will be causing the greater impact on the sellers side
On the buying side I am still trying to figure out how much direct sales being shut down which I did not expect and resale being the only game in town is having on the number of buyers
Luxury items like sports cars and timeshares are always going to be a lagging item that people only sell when they have to. Then you have to exhaust the buyers that have cash and will jump on something slightly cheaper than it was a month ago.My perception is that the economic impact has been less of a factor than I expected with the frustration of point loss and not knowing when DVC will re-open and how bad the point overload and reservation challenges will be causing the greater impact on the sellers side
That's exactly what my husband said today when we were discussing resale prices. I am seeing some slight decrease in prices on newly listed contracts... but he keeps telling me to be patient and wait.... it will drop much lower in a year or so.Luxury items like sports cars and timeshares are always going to be a lagging item that people only sell when they have to. Then you have to exhaust the buyers that have cash and will jump on something slightly cheaper than it was a month ago.
If this turns into a real recession you won't see the bottom of prices for a while. I think it has been mentioned that resale prices bottomed in 2012 during the last recession? That was a couple years after the stock market hit it's lowest point.
Curious too about what’s listed and what’s selling. Fidelity shows several OKW “sale pendings” in the high $70s, but everything still listed is much, much higher. It’s going to take some time for people to drop their asking price, in most cases it’s not like they owe anything for the next 7 months.That's exactly what my husband said today when we were discussing resale prices. I am seeing some slight decrease in prices on newly listed contracts... but he keeps telling me to be patient and wait.... it will drop much lower in a year or so.
Curious too about what’s listed and what’s selling. Fidelity shows several OKW “sale pendings” in the high $70s, but everything still listed is much, much higher. It’s going to take some time for people to drop their asking price, in most cases it’s not like they owe anything for the next 7 months.
Fidelity's website isn't the most up to date website most days. Some of those listings could be from months ago.Curious too about what’s listed and what’s selling. Fidelity shows several OKW “sale pendings” in the high $70s, but everything still listed is much, much higher. It’s going to take some time for people to drop their asking price, in most cases it’s not like they owe anything for the next 7 months.
We're going to be patient too and watch the next 6 months, then in the fall decide whether to wait longer or not.That's exactly what my husband said today when we were discussing resale prices. I am seeing some slight decrease in prices on newly listed contracts... but he keeps telling me to be patient and wait.... it will drop much lower in a year or so.
Luxury items like sports cars and timeshares are always going to be a lagging item that people only sell when they have to. Then you have to exhaust the buyers that have cash and will jump on something slightly cheaper than it was a month ago.
If this turns into a real recession you won't see the bottom of prices for a while. I think it has been mentioned that resale prices bottomed in 2012 during the last recession? That was a couple years after the stock market hit it's lowest point.
4/13 update
newly posted resale contracts at about 50% of average
The baseline is what I was seeing over the 6 months before C-19
4/14 update
newly posted resale contracts at about 140% of average
It is interesting though understandable that while most months are reasonably distributed, there are a lot less September and October contracts entering the market
I am sure this is obvious, but if you don't mind telling me, why is that? Thank you.I think this is always the case. I have an Oct UY and they are hard to come by.
I think I've read Sept may be even slightly harder to find.
At a lot of resorts there just aren’t that many fall UYs:
https://dvcnews.com/index.php/dvc-p...ear-distribution-charts-updated-february-2018