When did the tipping % increase?

[RMulieri]

That is at Disney in the real world we don't make anything close to 40.00 a hour. At Ihop I get 3 tables to rotate on and depending on turn over and how the tables tip I can make 8-12 dollars a hour on average. People will sit for hours drinking coffee, having meetings and tip on their bill not on how many hours they have taken your table. But I tell you one thing, when I get home I feel like I have been beaten with twenty bats and that is no lie. The thing with serving, you CAN make good money but depends on how good of a server you are. When you leave serving tables, its usually not to make more money its just to get out of the business there is only so much one can put up with.

The service industry is tough.I was once an Customer Service clerk at a Large NJ grocery chain.I made $7.oo/hr, had to work evenings, weekends and holidays.I received more abuse from people then you could possibly imagine.I was verbally abused, bashed and physically assaulted 2x in 8 yrs of working there.I would leave work after 8 1/2 hrs wanting to crawl in a hole and DIE.I finally quit.There really is only so much abuse one person can handle.

 

[ssawka]

I often wondered the same thing as the OP, the Irealized that when my DW and I tip, we generally tip 15% on the total bill. When a tip is added or suggested, it is ussually 18% of the pre-tax bill. This works out to be roughly the same thing.

Actually, how we tip is that we figure out what 15% is of the toal bill and then round up. For example, if the total bill is $50, 15% would be $7.50, so generally we will tip $8.

 

[Sandy321]

The Chicago Tribune did a large story on tipping and where the money goes - naturally I'm at work, so forgive my mistakes... they took a food bill of $100 and the tip of $20 - some going to the hostess, some going to the busboys, some going to the runner, and some ($5?) going to the waiter -

I'll check when I get home, but I believe over the years when this question pops up a waiter CM adds to the discussion...

also in the article it stated that some restaurants make the waiter pay the credit card charges - a friend I knew that waited said they have to wait 1-2 months before getting any tips that were put on the cc - so from then on, we tip cash...

 

[OneTreeHillAddict]

If each waiter has 4 tables/per hour and only gets $10 per table, that would be $40/hr. plus whatever they get hourly. It's serving...not rocket science. That's good money for that kind of work. Heck, check out people at grocery stores have to work hard and they make....maybe $8 or $9/hr.

The servers at WDW are making a LOT MORE than that!!!! I spoke with a fella from my hometown that works at WCC and he said the money was phenominal! (this was in '06) and he said he disliked the grat being in the DDP because he actually made "more" without it! So I'm guessing they walk with a good $300-$500+ per shift!!!! In some places a waitress works hard and only makes $40-$50 a day in tips but WDW is DIFFERENT! They make a TON of money and have some of the best jobs in the World.

 

[mom2my3kids]

The Chicago Tribune did a large story on tipping and where the money goes - naturally I'm at work, so forgive my mistakes... they took a food bill of $100 and the tip of $20 - some going to the hostess, some going to the busboys, some going to the runner, and some ($5?) going to the waiter -

I'll check when I get home, but I believe over the years when this question pops up a waiter CM adds to the discussion...

also in the article it stated that some restaurants make the waiter pay the credit card charges - a friend I knew that waited said they have to wait 1-2 months before getting any tips that were put on the cc - so from then on, we tip cash...

My friend who works at cheeseburgers in paradise told me they tip out 3% of their sales to the bus boy, runner and hostess!! I was shocked they are getting away with taking money out of the servers pockets to pay other employees??

 

[OneTreeHillAddict]

The Chicago Tribune did a large story on tipping and where the money goes - naturally I'm at work, so forgive my mistakes... they took a food bill of $100 and the tip of $20 - some going to the hostess, some going to the busboys, some going to the runner, and some ($5?) going to the waiter -

I'll check when I get home, but I believe over the years when this question pops up a waiter CM adds to the discussion...

also in the article it stated that some restaurants make the waiter pay the credit card charges - a friend I knew that waited said they have to wait 1-2 months before getting any tips that were put on the cc - so from then on, we tip cash...

Hard Rock Cafe was a 4% (of your total sales) tip out. 2% to the bussers, 1% to your expo, and 1% to the bartender. In most places you have to tip your bartender and busser if nothing else. However, when you accept the job as a server you know this ahead of time. All of those other people you tip make an hourly wage plus your tip. If you choose to get in the industry you take the good with the bad. You deal with idiots, but you deal with that in any field of work! In the end, in a busy tourist filled restuarant you are going to make a lot of money! Disney is probably the BEST place in the World to have a serving job! They may not want the World to know and they will probably deny it at all costs but you can bet they walk with a minimum of $300 a day! (Probably more like $500!!!) Not bad at all!!!!

 

[sarcasticblonde]

I posted this in a different "Tipping" thread and find it relevant here....

I am a server in a high end restaurant and I know what it is like to tip out 3% of my sales to my server assistant (busser), 1% to my bartender, 1% to my sommelier (wine salesman) and 2% to my food runner.

Let's say that I had $2000 in sales in a night. If I receive 20% tips (which I usually do) then you can assume I made $400 in tips. Here is the breakdown for tipping out my support staff:

$60 to my server assistant
$20 to my bartender
$20 to my sommelier
$40 to my food runner

That equals $140 that I have to tip out. That leaves me with $260 of my original $400.

Now lets say that I had that same $2000 in sales but I was only left 15% tips all night. That would only give me $300 in tips. How much do I have to tip out to my support staff? That exact same $140. Then I get only $160 out of my $300. Does that make sense?

So that is my point. 20% is the standard going rate for tips in Chicago, even at buffets. Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the US so I doubt that 6 million people in the Chicago area are over tipping even at buffets.

For me, I tip 20%. I will tip 22% for great service. I NEVER tip less than 15%.

 

[acourtwdw]

I posted this in a different "Tipping" thread and find it relevant here....






For me, I tip 20%. I will tip 22% for great service. I NEVER tip less than 15%.

If I figured out that post correctly, assuming the server worked 8 hours the server would make over $32 per hour in the first part or $20 per hour in the second part. That doesn't include the hourly wage paid by the resturant.

That is a lot more than most people who work in a service job make esp. retail where no one tips for services. I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire, but that is an interesting post. I will still tip based on service received.

 

[sarcasticblonde]

If I figured out that post correctly, assuming the server worked 8 hours the server would make over $32 per hour in the first part or $20 per hour in the second part. That doesn't include the hourly wage paid by the resturant.

That is a lot more than most people who work in a service job make esp. retail where no one tips for services. I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire, but that is an interesting post. I will still tip based on service received.

Yes, but that is what I make in a night working at a high end Chicago restaurant, not WDW.

 

[acourtwdw]

Yes, but that is what I make in a night working at a high end Chicago restaurant, not WDW.

That makes more sense. I was a little confused. Not unusual for me
Now that I think about it, how many WDW places have a wine steward? DUH !

 

[caroline1851]

Based on the calculations that a lot of people are making, many wdw servers are making more than many teachers...I think servers make plenty. I will not tip 18-20 because a server expects me to. If a steak is $30, 20% would mean $6 just for asking me what i want and carrying it to my table. Sorry, that's not $6 worth of work. What did that whole process take? 3 minutes?

 

[mousehouselover]

I have NEVER made $20 an hr and most likely will not ever make that much. I used to monitor anestesia; where if I made a mistake, it could be fatal and still only made half that. My current job pays a bit better but I'm still in the medical field and my mistakes can cause great harm or death if they are not caught. (It's a great job for a perfectioninst........ )

I usually tip around 15% for 30-60 mins of someone's time and attention. If they have 3-6 other tables doing the same, I know they are making more $$ that I do an hour. Personally, I think it's rather sad when service people get paid more than people in support positions in the health care industry.

Just for the record; I waited tables about 10 yrs ago, after my divorce. It was not unusual for me to leave with $25 for a lunch service (4 hrs) and $50 or more for dinner service (8hrs) This is in a small town in GA, right off I-95; in fact many of you may have stooped there if you drive down from the north. I had my share of days when things didn't go right and as hard as I tried, the customers weren't happy and left little or no tip. I was at the bottom of the hill if we ran out of something or if the kitchen got backed up or if the customer just wasn't having a good day. (Like GA losing to FL in the annual FL/GA game and the fans who were so angry about it, they just threw bills on the table instead of paying the cashier and I wound up having to cover the unpaid balance out of my tips. It was a table of 15 who left a mess. Oh, I bussed my own tables BTW.) If you've got a decent memory, are organized and have some people skills; serving tables is not a bad gig.... there were nights that I came home pretty exhauseted but nothing any more than I did working anywhere else.

 

[kaytieeldr]

The servers at WDW are making a LOT MORE than that!!!!

So what?
Persons dining in a table/buffet restaurant in the United States are (or should be, and lack of knowledge is no defense) aware that it is customary to tip the server; and
It is not the diner's concern how much any person not employed by them (or who is not them) earns. If a server can earn $300 during a single shift - never mind that the server may only GET one or two shifts a week in a Disney restaurant - good for them.

 

[mom2my3kids]

So what?
Persons dining in a table/buffet restaurant in the United States are (or should be, and lack of knowledge is no defense) aware that it is customary to tip the server; and
It is not the diner's concern how much any person not employed by them (or who is not them) earns. If a server can earn $300 during a single shift - never mind that the server may only GET one or two shifts a week in a Disney restaurant - good for them.

Thank You!!! people just don't understand that, yes you can make good money but they don't know how much. It all depends on the table rotation, how good tippers they are and how many days or hours they work a week..I don't think a lawyer should charge what he charges but if I needed his services I would pay them..(sorry lawyers out there just a example)

 

[Disney8704]

Good point! DH and I tip 15% of the bill. It usually doesnt come out to be no more then $5. HOWEVER, in WDW - we will be eating at some pretty nice places. Chefs de France - for the same amount of service we would get at Applebees and tip about $5, we're gonna be tipping $10 at chefs de france. Maybe DH and I need to rethink how we tip. Why should someone work at chefs de france get more money then someone at applebees just because the bill is more? Their both serving the same amount of people. We always just order a entree and MAYBE dessert. We never give the waiter a hard time. We're not messy eaters, etc. Yes, yes I know..waiters have to fork over some money for other people (buss boy, etc) and pay a certain % for each bill, just doesnt make any sense why we have to give a waiter more money just because our meal cost more then another place. Im gonna have to talk to DH and see what he thinks about the whole tipping issue. Either continue on with the 15% of the bill or start doing a set amount regardless how much the bill is.

Based on the calculations that a lot of people are making, many wdw servers are making more than many teachers...I think servers make plenty. I will not tip 18-20 because a server expects me to. If a steak is $30, 20% would mean $6 just for asking me what i want and carrying it to my table. Sorry, that's not $6 worth of work. What did that whole process take? 3 minutes?

 

[danny25]

sorry but we tip from 10 to 15 percent for a goood service, I respect everybody that tip more bur I tip that and i fell good with that amount

 

[kaytieeldr]

Why should someone work at chefs de france get more money then someone at applebees just because the bill is more?

Because tipping a percent of the total order is customary. Diners who choose to tip a certain dollar amount, instead of a percent, should note that 15% is standard and order accordingly. Planning to tip $5? The total food/beverage order should be no more than $33.

That's just the way tipping IS in this country.

Even Disney has many options for diners who choose not to tip the standard amount, or not tip at all, or who don't agree with the whole tipping mechanism. Counter service.

 

[Disney8704]

Yeah but I bet you any money, just because there is CS, doesnt mean non-tippers stay away from TS. I bet there is at least 1 person every day in each TS place in WDW that doesnt tip. It maybe because of how they were served, or where they come from tipping isnt customary, or maybe just for the fact that they dont like to tip. Theres MANY factors why 1 doesnt tip and to me I feel its pretty rude to judge those people. If they dont wanna tip, thats their thing. And no one can MAKE them tip or change their minds on the topic.

Because tipping a percent of the total order is customary. Diners who choose to tip a certain dollar amount, instead of a percent, should note that 15% is standard and order accordingly. Planning to tip $5? The total food/beverage order should be no more than $33.

That's just the way tipping IS in this country.

Even Disney has many options for diners who choose not to tip the standard amount, or not tip at all, or who don't agree with the whole tipping mechanism. Counter service.

 

[mom2my3kids]

Yeah but I bet you any money, just because there is CS, doesnt mean non-tippers stay away from TS. I bet there is at least 1 person every day in each TS place in WDW that doesnt tip. It maybe because of how they were served, or where they come from tipping isnt customary, or maybe just for the fact that they dont like to tip. Theres MANY factors why 1 doesnt tip and to me I feel its pretty rude to judge those people. If they dont wanna tip, thats their thing. And no one can MAKE them tip or change their minds on the topic.

There are lots of ignorant people in the world, but I just hope these people are not regulars at any one restaraunt..

 

[kaytieeldr]

To intentionally avail oneself of a service in which one KNOWS tipping is standard/required to bring the person providing the service to a level at least equal to the minimum wage that locale (i.e. country, in this case) with the predetermined decision not to tip, for whatever reason, is, yeah, incredibly tacky and selfish.