What's the problem with multiple ADR's at the same time?

[TDC Nala]

Wouldn't be an issue if not for the extreme popularity of dining at WDW.

Some restaurants now routinely fill up with just ADR guests, leaving no room for walkins at all. Those with multiple ADRS who do not cancel them have effectively precluded someone else from booking the ADRs - and those precluded may not have the ability to get into the restaurant of their choice at all. A walk-in customer will not get that table - the next party on the ADR list that can be accommodated will get it.

Even knowing this, there will always be some parties to whom their own convenience is more important that the ability of other guests to book dining, and they won't be dissuaded unless Disney chooses to use some form of rule and enforcement about how many simultaneous ADRs one party can book.

 

[NMW]

I didn't get all the ADR's I wanted. I don't have Le Cellier or California Grill. I am also not crying about it.

The point I am making is that no shows open up tables at restaurants. That lets walk-ins sit down (unless WDW overbooks, but no evidence of that. yet).

I still don't see the big deal.

I also don't see the point of asking me to get rid of my ADR's and prove my point. My point isn't that you don't need ADR's. My point is that people with multiple ADR's at the same time aren't evil.

Have you even been to WDW recently? Lots and lots of restaurants were not taking walk-ups in Oct 06. I saw people turned away everywhere and most of our ADR times were on the later side- 7:30-8:30. I suppose if restaurants DID take walk-ups, then your arguement would hold true, but none I saw were taking them.

 

[disneyfav4ever]

Because it's rude, selfish, and unfair to others.

 

[Allison]

The point I am making is that no shows open up tables at restaurants. That lets walk-ins sit down (unless WDW overbooks, but no evidence of that. yet).

This is where your information is flawed. No shows do not open up tables at restaurants for walk-ins.

 

[lustergirl]

ooohhh!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Nancyg56]

I didn't get all the ADR's I wanted. I don't have Le Cellier or California Grill. I am also not crying about it.

The point I am making is that no shows open up tables at restaurants. That lets walk-ins sit down (unless WDW overbooks, but no evidence of that. yet).

I still don't see the big deal.

I also don't see the point of asking me to get rid of my ADR's and prove my point. My point isn't that you don't need ADR's. My point is that people with multiple ADR's at the same time aren't evil.

Perhaps not evil but very inconsiderate, I would say. You did not get the ADR's you wanted and are fine with that.You might have gotten Le Cellier is someone was not hedging their bets. Yes a walk up might get the unused SDR, but that does not help the family who is trying to plans their meals to coincide with their plans for the day all the while pleasing their kids, who have their heart set on CP and the Pooh gang. But they can't get that ADR because some overplanner has several ADR's so that they can choose the one that is convenient for them when the time comes.

 

[bentleygirl22]

Please, Please, Please, no one else respond to nikjd68 anymore . . . quite obviously has issues none of us would understand.

agree

 

[cdrn1]

I don't see the issue. (As a disclaimer, just so people don't think I'm rationalizing my own "bad" behavior, check out entry #131 on the official adr cancellation thread, i.e., my entry)

If a person has multiple ADR's and doesn't cancel them, all that happens is that walk-ins will be able to get a table. No one seems to be able to properly explain why that is such a bad thing.

Just go over the trade/cancellation thread and see all the people looking for reservations...knowing that there are tons of people holding multiple ADR's that they won't use. Then say you don't see the issue. It's just really thoughtless.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Please, Please, Please, no one else respond to nikjd68 anymore . . . quite obviously has issues none of us would understand.

Sigh... Oh, okay, fine... I had a perfectly-written, intelligent, eloquent, Nobel-worthy response all ready to post - but I see your point. Please don't feel guilty that you have deprived the DIS - nay, the world - of my work of art... when you're right, you're right.

 

[Luv2Roam]

I was at DTD Guest Relations last night. Next to me was a guest looking for a place for the family to dine in DTD.
The CM was trying, but the only options were to wait until 9:00+ pm at one restaurant or 11:30 at another.
As an eavesdropper, I piped in and told the guest about the RFC Safari Club membership and FOTL. I mentioned at least they could eat! So off they trotted there. (I don't think the CM was too happy with me. But hey -- they needed to some place decent to eat before bed time.)
They were on the DDP, so they would have to pay OOP. And the CM did tell them that. Depending on where in their stay they were I figured they could easily use up an extra TS credit. (Even for breakfast or a signature restaurant.)
I just hope they made some remaining ADRs.
When someone is hot, tired, and hungry, and has a family in tow, I imagine they would use most any means for a decent meal. No one wants to settle for what they have to work around, rather than what they would really choose.
For everyne cancelling an ADR, I imgine there are a dozen others wanting that ADR.

 

[antmaril]

IMO it's rude and selfish to make mutiple ADRs just so you have "options." It's not fair to other guests who try and make ADRs and are told the restaurants are booked, because other people have made several.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[poohbear7]

If you have more than one dining reservation at different restaurants for around the same time Disney will cancel the extra reservations.
When I called to make a reservation the Cm told me I had 2 reservations for around the same time and I needed to cancel one. The 2nd reservation was my daughters with the same phone number but it was 2 seperate reservations. She let her keep her reservation I used my daughters cell phone # to seperate her reservation from mine. Mine was for my DH and myself hers was for her and her family two different restaurants. They will cancel extra reservations and you may not know till you are at the restaurant.
Last May they cancelled my daughters because our phone # is the same but my DH and I were eating by ourselves at one restaurant and her family at another at different times as my DH and I wanted to eat later.
I would cancel the one's you don't want so you can eat where you want.

 

[Lady V]

I don't see the issue. (As a disclaimer, just so people don't think I'm rationalizing my own "bad" behavior, check out entry #131 on the official adr cancellation thread, i.e., my entry)

If a person has multiple ADR's and doesn't cancel them, all that happens is that walk-ins will be able to get a table. No one seems to be able to properly explain why that is such a bad thing.

The problem is that it is rude and inconsiderate. The problem is that maybe some other family wanted to eat there and now is told there are no openings. Is that second family suppossed to show up just in case family one doesn't show? It is rude and wrong and I personally think if you make a reservation and don't show then you should lose credits for that meal. I think I might email disney about this very idea. (not as if they will care but maybe it will get them talking about possible ways to rectify this problem) Now I have read that they are cancelling double reservations which I applaud.

 

[JimMIA]

The problem is that it is rude and inconsiderate. The problem is that maybe some other family wanted to eat there and now is told there are no openings.

"But this isn't about that family! This is ALL ABOUT ME!!!"

 

[castleri]

I canceled my ADR's because I thought it was the right thing to do.

But, if someone doesn't cancel theirs and is a no show, then someone will get to use the table. A walk-in. My point, at its most basic level is that there is no difference between someone canceling--assume at the last minute--and some getting the last-minute ADR and someone not canceling and a walk-in getting the table.

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There is a difference - Jan 2 of this year I called and was able to get an ADR at MM for about 40 minutes from my call - after a mad dash and luckily finding an MGM bus almost immediately at SSR and then walking rapidly through the park we made it just about on time. At that point people were being told there were no walk ins being taken. During the meal I noted that there were a number of empty tables but they still did not take any walk ins. The no walk in policy was also in effect the previous April when we were there. We ran into the two ADR thing last year also when 3 of us were eating at Japan and the rest were eating at CP. Fortunately they just changed the phone number or we would have been out one of the ADRs.

Just do the right thing

 

[ZuZugal]

I don't see the issue. (As a disclaimer, just so people don't think I'm rationalizing my own "bad" behavior, check out entry #131 on the official adr cancellation thread, i.e., my entry)

If a person has multiple ADR's and doesn't cancel them, all that happens is that walk-ins will be able to get a table. No one seems to be able to properly explain why that is such a bad thing.

The only way I can properly explain it is that you think it is okay in your mind and you will probably defend your actions no matter what anyone else posts here.

To the rest of us, it is selfish, rude behavior. Period.

 

[Markstudy]

I don't see the issue. ....No one seems to be able to properly explain why that is such a bad thing.

Okay... are you ready to learn?

Right now, we get a few Scammers making double ADR's.
(not calling the OP a Scammer, just wanted to stick-a-point....and "rude" is not a strong enough word for people who do do this, you know who you are )

If Disney didn't crack down on these people.... you know what whould happen?
What if 250,000 people all made double ADR's? Why not triple ADR's

See, if you leave a loop-hole open for long enough...the average Joe starts having to stoop to the level of the Scammers...and then YOU won't even be able to get a ADR at
180 days-out at 7:10am

Maybe calling someone a scammer is harsh. But what is a scam?
Scams only work when 99% do the "right thing" and only 1% or 2% of the people try to do the wrong thing (at everyone else expenses). With ADR's this could get out of hand very fast. Cutting in line, takes a very rude person. Double booking a ADR from your home is an act anyone can do... the ADR system could be wrecked very easy...if double booking continues to get attention.

If you don't know- right-from-wrong on a topic....try this little test we give to kids- If everyone did it? would it still work? No! So why are you special and think that you should get something that no one else should have? (just because you might not get caught...doesn't mean its not wrong)

 

[disneyfan55]

This is my first post on these boards. I came to this site to check on the meal plan. We will be using the free meal plan the end of Sept. and had a hard time making reservations in June when we booked the trip. I remember either reading or hearing that if reservations aren't kept, some type of charge may be made. When making all of our reservations, I kept having to switch nights/restaurants to try to get some of the times/places we wanted. When doing this the person making the reservation was making sure that duplicate dates were not kept at 2 different restaurants. I, too, kept making sure of not double booking. This was 3 months prior to our trip. I couldn't even imagine trying to book now. This will be our about 30th trip to WDW, the first with so much planning. I never had to plan so much for a WDW trip!! I really hope that anyone having duplicate reservations, please keep only one. I think with all the free dining offered and just the meal plan alone has caused the "problem". I'm looking forward to this trip but not to some of the dining times we have. As an aside, we were booked in Japan and WDW reservations called the other day stating that the restaurant wouldn't be ready for our reservation on Sept 26 and rescheduled at 9 Dragons. They did also give a reservation for a VIP viewing of Illuminations. Never did this so I hope it's good. We did end up with a more normal time for dinner 6 pm instead of 8:30. Hopefully double bookers will see the problem this is causing and pick the one they really want and open up times for others. Thanks.

 

[septbaby]

ooohhh!!!!!!!!!!

That's just wrong!

 

[stepdisney]

I just want to say that there is a difference between not canceling and canceling even if you do it late. Friends of ours had to cancel suddenly and I went over to the cancel thread and was able to help those looking for ADR's get in because our friends were considerate and cancelled . It DID open up ADR's for others. To the OP, I know you don't think that canceling opens up space because Disney over books but it really does. You are looking for proof and the proof is that I cancelled for my friends and rebooked for DISers and the spot was there . I hope this is proof enough to encourage other "busy" people who "forget" to cancel to do so. It really does open up space for those who are new or have a surprise trip sprung on them to make ADR's (which is the policy recommended by Disney EVERY TIME I CALL for ANYTHING.