What's the problem with multiple ADR's at the same time?

[jenins121681]

I don't see the issue. (As a disclaimer, just so people don't think I'm rationalizing my own "bad" behavior, check out entry #131 on the official adr cancellation thread, i.e., my entry)

If a person has multiple ADR's and doesn't cancel them, all that happens is that walk-ins will be able to get a table. No one seems to be able to properly explain why that is such a bad thing.

The issue is that holding multiple ADR's so that you have options is just un-ethical and selfish. Some people are having trouble getting any ADR's at all and are faced with probably having to eat all CS meals. That is why it is extremely necessary for people to cancel ADR's that they know they cannot make. Gone are the days of walk ups @ WDW...unless you are extremely lucky and get that once and a blue moon walk up slot.

 

[septbaby]

If a person has multiple ADR's and doesn't cancel them, all that happens is that walk-ins will be able to get a table. No one seems to be able to properly explain why that is such a bad thing.

If really believe your own theory is correct then don't make any ADRs, let alone multiple. Just show up since someone else will have double booked leaving an opening for you.

 

[rlduvall]

You know, I'd really love to eat at Coral Reef with my party of three. I'd love to know a couple of weeks ahead of time that I'll have a place to eat with my family. I've called repeatedly to make a reservation but they never have availability for me. And do you know why? Because you have a reservation there that you might use. That is, if you decide not to use the reservation you're holding for Chefs de France or Le Cellier or Chef Mickey's.

You are so right. You know, I never jump into threads that have the potential to get ugly . . . BUT please, the OP deserves it. This is my biggest pet peeve with visitors to Disney. Book the ONE TS you desire and LEAVE IT ALONE. Let others have a chance.

 

[rlduvall]

If really believe your own theory is correct then don't make any ADRs, let alone multiple. Just show up since someone else will have double booked leaving an opening for you.

 

[keys2kingdom]

Bad form, as Captain Hook would say!!

Down with multiple ADR bookings, it's just rude.

 

[aubriee]

Every TS restaurant at WDW takes walk-ins.

I assure that is not true. I don't know how many times, in the last two years especially, we've heard the hostess at numerous WDW resorts say they are not taking walk ups. We've seen people turned away at Crystal Palace, CRT, Liberty Tree Tavern, Chef Mickey's, 'Ohanas, Coral Reef, Mama Melrose, Hollywood & Vine, Le Cellier, etc. Walking up and trying to wait for a table was not option. People were simply told that they were not taking walk ups, period. Now again, I've dined in those same restaurants and seen empty tables waiting for those rude people who made multiple ADRs and didn't show up, while the people trying to get walkups outside are turned away. We've also had to wait long past our ADR time, because more people that had ADRs showed up than the restaurant was expecting (and yes we were told this by a CM). Restauraunts overbook even with ADRs, knowing some peole will not be showing up. If everyone with an ADR shows up, the restaurant is in trouble and runs WAY behind. A walk up wouldn't stand a chance.

Funny thing is, you can step away, call WDW dining on your cell phone, and may be able to get an ADR there for within just a few minutes. I did this at Sci Fi last Dec. I tried for a walk up, was told rather rudely that they weren't talking walkups, stepped around the corner, called WDW dining, and had an ADR for Sci Fi for 20 minutes later. As I walked up, the CM started to frown and I told him I had an ADR now. He asked how I did that and I told him 'It's who you know, young man.' Le Cellier stays booked up for months in advance and I'd love to see the look on the CM's face if you tried to walk into CRT or PCT.

 

[MNWDWMANIAC]

If really believe your own theory is correct then don't make any ADRs, let alone multiple. Just show up since someone else will have double booked leaving an opening for you.

As I was reading though this thread I was heading to this exact idea .

If the OP believes their multiple ADR's aren't hurting anyone and we will all be able to walk up anyway then why set ADR's in the first place?

OP - cancel them all and just walk in. No need to explain yourself any further as you have already made the point crystal clear for everyone. Prove your point and show me the money......

 

[Allison]

All the people in Epcot on February 17 who were told NO restaurants in Epcot were taking walkups that evening might disagree with you. I was certainly glad I had my LeCellier ADR.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I think it is inconsiderate to retain multiple ADR's for the same time. My family has been trying for months to get into WCC before the nightly campfire and movie. It has been booked solid before 9:30 pm. If one of those people who has an ADR there and also has one elsewhere that they use instead, it is impossible for my family to get to eat there. When I spoke with a CM, I was told the only way to find out about walk up availability is to go all the way to FW and ask. I can't call the restaurant directly and Dining won't know if someone just doesn't show up. So if my family is at Epcot or MGM or wherever, it is a waste to go all the way to FW on the chance that someone may have overbooked or not shown up.

Okay, just so you know - WCC is at the Wilderness Lodge, not Fort Wilderness. If you want to be close to the Campfire site, you want to make a reservation for Trail's End Buffeteria AT Fort Wilderness. While you could take a boat from WL to FW after dinner, being at FW already is wayyyyyyyyy more convenient. Plus, it's probably easier to get reservations at Trail's End.

Now, a general theory about this whole issue: Conservation/consideration. Take what you want, but use what you take. You can't have dinner tonight at Boma and Chef Mickey's and Le Cellier and 50's Prime Time. Don't make ADRs for all four of them. Pick ONE.

 

[DznyDreamz]

I think the point people are trying to make is that if you know you have more ADR's then you are going to use, is it so difficult to cancel what you won't use? In doing so you give someone else the comfort of knowing that they have a guaranteed spot for dinner and can plan their trip accordingly.

If you are so so steadfast that not having an ADR is no problem, then why do you need to hold so many "just in case". You should be walking around with the comfort of knowing you can get into any restaurant at any time since walk ups are so readily accepted.

Do you also hold an entire row of seats in a crowded movie theater just because you like extra space?

Perhaps you would see this differently if the tables were turned and you were the one unable to get an ADR.

 

[nikjd68]

I didn't get all the ADR's I wanted. I don't have Le Cellier or California Grill. I am also not crying about it.

The point I am making is that no shows open up tables at restaurants. That lets walk-ins sit down (unless WDW overbooks, but no evidence of that. yet).

I still don't see the big deal.

I also don't see the point of asking me to get rid of my ADR's and prove my point. My point isn't that you don't need ADR's. My point is that people with multiple ADR's at the same time aren't evil.

 

[global_mom]

Hey guys - I cant imagine that anyone really thinks that the multiple ADR issue is OK, maybe the OP just had nothing better to do with his time and decided to get on the DIS and stir up some stuff.

If the OP really thinks that multiple ADRs are okee dokee then the above post sums it up and we can all move on to more worthwhile topics!!

Got to go call Dininig to finish lining up my ADRs for the next 3 trips.....wish me luck!

 

[DznyDreamz]

I didn't get all the ADR's I wanted. I don't have Le Cellier or California Grill. I am also not crying about it.

The point I am making is that no shows open up tables at restaurants. That lets walk-ins sit down (unless WDW overbooks, but no evidence of that. yet).

I still don't see the big deal.

I also don't see the point of asking me to get rid of my ADR's and prove my point. My point isn't that you don't need ADR's. My point is that people with multiple ADR's at the same time aren't evil.

I am not crying about my unattainable ADR's. You asked what was wrong with holding multiple so you should have been prepared for the response. You couldn't possibly believe you are in the majority on this topic.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I personally don't agree with your point of view. I think it is rude and selfish, but thats just me.

 

[pumba]

First of all........Please everyone....just calm down and no name calling......this is a good post and we would hate to lock it because of people being rude to each others opinions..

When we went to Disney in APril....we had reservations for two at Le Cellier.....we were not able to add two people to our reservation so we gave it up.....the cm told us that they were booked solid thru the last of July. When we went there we also were told no walkins for the whole night....so that means from five pm when we arrived until they closed.......they have no idea who will or wont show up for their reservations.....SO NO WALK INS that night.....or the two other nights we stopped by......

Please everyone be kind and careful what we say

 

[kaytieeldr]

The point I am making is that no shows open up tables at restaurants. That lets walk-ins sit down (unless WDW overbooks, but no evidence of that. yet).

I still don't see the big deal.

I'm not sure I see why you don't see the big deal. In your original post you said:

(As a disclaimer, just so people don't think I'm rationalizing my own "bad" behavior, check out entry #131 on the official adr cancellation thread, i.e., my entry)

If Guests were not making multiple reservations in advance, there would likely not be a need for threads like the official adr cancellation thread.
While no-shows may open up tables for walk-ins (and as has been stated multiple times in this thread, and proven by aubriee's experience, even though reservations are booked with the expectation of a certain percentage of no-shows, many locations STILL do not accept walk-ins), making reservations for which one cannot show up prevents others from making ADVANCE dining reservations (aka ADRs) for those same locations.

My point is that people with multiple ADR's at the same time aren't evil.

I feel relatively safe in saying that the point of many others in this threas is that people with multiple ADRs at the same time ARE self-centered and inconsiderate. And if anybody on the anti-multi-reservation side is offended by my assumption of your opinion, I apologize in advance!!!

You couldn't possibly believe you are in the majority on this topic.

Yep. Even (especially?) Disney - which owns the restaurants*, the system, the policies, and the reservations - is anti-multiple-reservation!

*Well, most of 'em

 

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[nikjd68]

I canceled my ADR's because I thought it was the right thing to do.

But, if someone doesn't cancel theirs and is a no show, then someone will get to use the table. A walk-in. My point, at its most basic level is that there is no difference between someone canceling--assume at the last minute--and some getting the last-minute ADR and someone not canceling and a walk-in getting the table.

I guess my biggest problem with the "evil" crowd is that it seems that on these boards, with a lot of topics, including this one, if you are one degree removed from the party-line, you get crucified.

 

[PrincessTiffany]

Please, Please, Please, no one else respond to nikjd68 anymore . . . quite obviously has issues none of us would understand.

 

[global_mom]

Please, Please, Please, no one else respond to nikjd68 anymore . . . quite obviously has issues none of us would understand.

 

[jenins121681]

Please, Please, Please, no one else respond to nikjd68 anymore . . . quite obviously has issues none of us would understand.