Whatever.

[kevschickee]

Lets take the OP as an example some weird guy is constantly taking pics of the same little girl who he does not know from a hole in the wall why do you think he is taking the pics? IMO he is a perv and is into little girls period.

 

[MariDisney]

Actually, if she was made up @ BBB, the costumes wouldn't be available if it weren't okay, would they?

From the Disney site describing clothes not allowed in the parks:
What is the best way to dress for a day at the parks? Is there any clothing that isn't permissible?


The parks are a casual, family-oriented environment. We suggest you dress comfortably, wear good walking shoes and check the local weather report before you leave for the parks.

Ensuring that the parks are family friendly is an important part of the Disney experience. In that spirit, we ask you to use your discretion and common sense. Attire that is not appropriate for the theme parks (and which may result in refusal of admittance) includes but is not limited to:

Adult costumes or clothing that can be viewed as representative of an actual Disney character
Masks (unless you are dressing up for a particular event)
Clothing with objectionable material, including obscene language or graphics
Excessively torn clothing
Clothing which, by nature, exposes excessive portions of the skin that may be viewed as inappropriate for a family environment
Objectionable tattoos
A Guest is allowed into the parks if her or his hair (or make-up, if applicable) has been made to resemble a Disney Princess or character (for example, after a Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique makeover) provided the Guest is not also wearing a costume or clothed to look like the character.



So, even after BBB an adult would not be allowed in wearing a costume. I also think that if I recall correctly BBB only goes to size 12 or something.

 

[princessmom29]

She was aware of her surroundings hence why she spotted some sick **** taking her child's picture.

I'm astonished that a parent would be a-okay with this, but whatever....

It's not so much that I am ok with it. I think it is totally wrong and if someone sees it they should stop it, but my point is that I cannot spend all day every day looking for someone to take advantage of my kid from afar. Yes if i see it I would make a stink about it, but i just cannot invest time in worrying about all the what ifs, and looking over my shoulder constantly.

 

[jlovesee]

For the last several years my husband and I have ran a magazine covering amusement parks across the country. We visit the park, take sometimes thousands of photos of people on rides, people walking down walkways, people doing everything they do at amusement parks. We have in many cases taken photos non stop for DAYS. In that time we have had one adult ask us why we were taking photos of their kids. Now they did not ask us to stop, or of course we would have, they were just curious. This was at Holiday World in Indiana.

These photos are printed in a magazine that is distributed across the world.

By entering a park you are agreeing to have your photo taken by anyone there, which can be published without your knowledge. We have always contacted the park ahead of time.

Actually we will be at Typhoon Lagoon in about two weeks for this same reason. I am kind of worried with these "pedophile" stories in the news and that people may think we are there for that reason! Rest assured if you see a guy walking around with a huge camera at the end of august it is for strictly professional reasons!

Jennifer

 

[jerenaud]

It's not so much that I am ok with it. I think it is totally wrong and if someone sees it they should stop it, but my point is that I cannot spend all day every day looking for someone to take advantage of my kid from afar. Yes if i see it I would make a stink about it, but i just cannot invest time in worrying about all the what ifs, and looking over my shoulder constantly.

Exactly. (And yes, I have three daughters)

Erica

 

[jodifla]

For the last several years my husband and I have ran a magazine covering amusement parks across the country. We visit the park, take sometimes thousands of photos of people on rides, people walking down walkways, people doing everything they do at amusement parks. We have in many cases taken photos non stop for DAYS. In that time we have had one adult ask us why we were taking photos of their kids. Now they did not ask us to stop, or of course we would have, they were just curious. This was at Holiday World in Indiana.

These photos are printed in a magazine that is distributed across the world.

By entering a park you are agreeing to have your photo taken by anyone there, which can be published without your knowledge. We have always contacted the park ahead of time.

Actually we will be at Typhoon Lagoon in about two weeks for this same reason. I am kind of worried with these "pedophile" stories in the news and that people may think we are there for that reason! Rest assured if you see a guy walking around with a huge camera at the end of august it is for strictly professional reasons!

Jennifer

Yep. Legally, if you are out in public, people have a right to take your photo. There's often a big billboard saying that they are filming something, and you may be in the picture / on the film.

You have the right for other people NOT to profit from your image, but that doesn't include news coverage or similar endeavors.

 

[brergnat]

This topic always boggles my mind. I have to seriously wonder what planet some of you are living on sometimes.

I have to think that the parents here who are going off the deep end about pictures of kids being taken at Disney World ending up in sex chat rooms and such is just SO far into left field. I mean, seriously.

Yes, child molesters and perverts exist. Unfortunately. However, they are not lurking around every corner, just waiting with baited breath for YOUR child to walk by so they can snatch her/him up.

Yes, sometimes pictures do end up on the internet and are used for nefarious purposes. HOWEVER, unless your child is naked, why would you care? If someone is going to get off on an image of your child fully clothed, having fun at Disney World, what's to say he/she is not going to get off WATCHING your child fully clothed, having fun at Disney World? These people don't need to be behind a computer, in their own homes, to get their rocks off, if you know what I mean...and a picture of your child is hardly considered child porn unless, like I said, he/she is naked...

If someone wants to take a picture of my child, so be it. My boys are extremely cute (if I do say so myself). They do a lot of funny things. I have seen kids do some really funny things too, when I've been on vacation without my boys and have been missing them, and I've taken pictures of strangers' kids before, because I thought they were doing something cute, and I was missing my boys. The parents never cared (maybe because I'm a "mom", who knows).

What I pride myself on is my OWN vigilance about my own kids personal safety. I am always aware of where they are at ALL times, EVERY single day (they are little still, and one has special needs, so I worry more about him). I do the best I can to protect them, WITHIN MY ABILITY. This world is dangerous, and my job as a parent is to teach them that, and give them the tools to navigate it safely. Dangerous people have always existed. WE are all here as adults, though. We made it just fine. The odds are always in our children's favor. The chances of a tragedy are extremely slim.

Live your lives and stop sweating this stuff.

 

[kevschickee]

I care if pictures of my children are being passed on the internet because it CAN hurt them in the long run. I totally agree with you about not being able to stop it you just can't all of the time but the OP saw it and could have told someone. If I was her I would have but thats hindsight. I think with technology today the perverts are getting worse and worse you can see it if you follow the child porn stings all over the US. What bothered me about this whole post is that it isn't hurting anyone when indeed it can hurt people.

 

[Hannathy]

Thank you brergnat! I agree.

And to all those asking yes I do have children and I still don't understand the big deal with someone taking a picture. My children don't go to Disney naked or provocatively dressed so if a picture of a child dressed normally is going to land up in child porn i would be very surprised and not much that can be done about it. I prefer to worry about real problems and things I can do something about.

 

[wifisker]

I don't really see the big deal with it either, and actually kind of feel bad for the guy who, in all likelihood, was just taking photos of the sights and the OP's DD happened to be there twice or - horrors - he actually did think she made a good photography subject. I know a lot of photographers who love getting candid snapshots of people they don't know in certain settings where it really fits. In Disney, that just happens to be cute kids. Now suddenly he's a perverted pedophile circulating the photos on the internet? Weird.

DD has had her photo taken by others a handful of times when we're out and about. By a local reporter to run with a feature article, by strangers at the farmers market who spot her with a tulip we just bought and thought it was a great photo op, by a guy downtown walking around with a camera who saw her sneaking up to a squirrel at just the right time...

As long as I'm with her and keeping an eye on her I'm not terribly concerned.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Thank you brergnat! I agree.

And to all those asking yes I do have children and I still don't understand the big deal with someone taking a picture. My children don't go to Disney naked or provocatively dressed so if a picture of a child dressed normally is going to land up in child porn i would be very surprised and not much that can be done about it. I prefer to worry about real problems and things I can do something about.

I agree. A child's picture from a school playground, classroom, boy scouts/girl scouts or Sunday School class can be used for the same purpose. It stinks, but that is the fact. You can either choose to be freaked out about it and paranoid, or go on with life and enjoy it to its fullest.

 

[MSB123]

You can't be too careful these days... of course you should be wary of strangers so I'm not trying to downplay it.

But there are a lot of freelance photographers who are into street photography or portraits, he might have just been inspired by your daughter as a subject.

I've worked as a photographer, both in portraits and selling photos to magazines. I admit, it's bad form to just try to take a picture of someone else's kid without permission. I will generally never just snap a pic of a child I don't know, I'll ask the parents so I don't freak them out. Often they will consent, I'll even offer to take their e-mail so I can send them a file for free.

But some people are amatures or just plain shy, or they are more interested in a candid shot and asking will blow that chance.

 

[NHdisneylover]

OP-- I can see why the guy freaked you out. I would have kept an even sloer than normal eye on my kids after that and (because my kdis aer old enough for this) pointed him out to my kids and told them why I was freaked out by him and had them also keep an eye out.

I can't understand those of you who would tell a CM. Tell them what? There is a person here at Disney World taking photos? Even if your kid is in them--he doid not touch you, say anything innappropriate to you, etc. Nothing they can do or say to him. I CAN see taking a photo of him in case later he DOES do something actually wrong--though I doubt I would go so far; I would just worry about watching my kids.

If it happened locally I would be more concerened because then the odd sthat this person has an obcession with MY child and might actually follow us home and do someting becomes much greater. I would keep a very sharp lookout for a quite a while then.

This topic always boggles my mind. I have to seriously wonder what planet some of you are living on sometimes. ...
Live your lives and stop sweating this stuff.

I also don't get what the big deal is unless they come up and ask for your name or address what difference does it make to your child if they have her photo? They may be "sick" but it isn't hurting you.

Do you have kids?

I compltely agree with these posters-and yes I do have kids; two of them whom I adore.
How is it really any different if the perv takes the photo himself or gets a hold of the photo some otehr way? What about the PPs daughter whose photo was taken for publicity purposes at the water park? Some perv could get off on the brochure that ends up in. Maybe the relative of someone at DS's dance studio is a perv and buys the group dance photo shots to get off on the kids dressed in their dance outfits and make-up--or comes to the recital to get his jollies. Maybe someone has taken the photo of my DD reading on a library website and put it somewhere I don't visit and do not want to think about. Maybe the school photo we send out with holiday cards ended up in the "wrong" hands. Who knows. It is an icky thought. Lots of ick factor there. But, it doesn't actually hurt me or my kids. Even if we found out it is out there--or got an email or showed up on craigs list the worst aht happens there is we are upset or annoyed about seeing it. My child has not actually been fondled or sold, or whatever. I CANNOT control people's reactions to seeing my kids (or myself) (in real life or in photos). The best I can do in that regard is to make sure when we are out in public I am okay with how we are dressed/acting and keep an eye out for people who might actually harm them.

 

[gymboqueenkaylee]

Oh how scary. I would have definately said something and alerted security.

 

[crisi]

I care if pictures of my children are being passed on the internet because it CAN hurt them in the long run. I totally agree with you about not being able to stop it you just can't all of the time but the OP saw it and could have told someone. If I was her I would have but thats hindsight. I think with technology today the perverts are getting worse and worse you can see it if you follow the child porn stings all over the US. What bothered me about this whole post is that it isn't hurting anyone when indeed it can hurt people.

How is the picture going to hurt them in the long run? How is that picture going to hurt them anymore than the picture your sister posts on Facebook, or one a DISer attaches to her post to show how cute her kids are after BBB?

There are reasons this could be perfectly innocent, yet most people posting to this thread have condemned this guy as a pedophile because he gave off a creepy vibe. We are in danger of entering a witch hunt for pedophiles - women who made charms and cast spells certainly existed in the Middle Ages - but we burned perhaps millions of people at the stake or otherwise killed them because they gave off a creepy vibe, because their neighbors didn't like them, because they engaged in behavior we didn't like, because they had the misfortune to be born with red hair.

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

The way this particular guy acted definitely seems a bit creepy but, in general, I see no problem in taking pictures of random people in public...as long as it's done without the "creep factor."

I've done this all over the world.Just sitting,people watching, and taking pictures of people that look interesting, or are doing interesting things. Not posed pictures,but candid shots - they don't even know I'm taking. Not for any nefarious purposes. Also, it's young and old, male and female...that part is not relevant.

Of course, I say this as someone without kids, so it's a different perspective.

Cheers.

Photography is my hobby and I always take picture of cute or interesting moments. Some of them include kids.
Cannot see what the problem is?

 

[RMulieri]

Actually, if she was made up @ BBB, the costumes wouldn't be available if it weren't okay, would they?

Actually not true. Official Disney policy is adults are not permitted into the parks in costume UNLESS it is a special party like Pirates and Princesses or MNSSHP. I saw a woman in a full snow white costume that she got at BBB in DTD, not allowed into the parks.They also would not allow my SIL to wear a costume after she was done up in the MK BBB.

 

[RMulieri]

As others have stated, there is really no way to control who takes pictures of what while at the parks.If the guy was creeping you that much, security needed to know about it.I saw in a prior post someone brought up the issues at the waterparks with pedophiles and "shady looking people"The fact is , that Pedophiles and child predators go where there is the biggest concentration of kids.Schools, playgrounds, pools, waterparks, THEMEPARKS. There will always be nefarious people around, most of whom you would never know were pedophiles.They may be ordinary people, look normal, have kids of their own and respectable jobs, and can be a raging pedophile. Be mindful, be watchful but not ridiculous.

 

[pixiewings71]

Actually, if she was made up @ BBB, the costumes wouldn't be available if it weren't okay, would they?

I know at BBB in DL sizes only go up to 12, that said my DD13 could easily fit into a size 10. No she doesn't dress up in the parks, the only time she ever does that is for the ToT party in DCA, otherwise she's just in "regular" day clothes. Same for DD9, neither of them have wanted to dress up. We have done BBB hair but we are just wearing normal clothes after that.

Thank you brergnat! I agree.

And to all those asking yes I do have children and I still don't understand the big deal with someone taking a picture. My children don't go to Disney naked or provocatively dressed so if a picture of a child dressed normally is going to land up in child porn i would be very surprised and not much that can be done about it. I prefer to worry about real problems and things I can do something about.

Honestly, if your kids did dress provocatively you probably wouldn't mine even more. My kids don't dress provocatively either but I still don't want random people taking obvious photos of them, so yes, I would have tried to talk to him to see why he was doing it.

I don't really see the big deal with it either, and actually kind of feel bad for the guy who, in all likelihood, was just taking photos of the sights and the OP's DD happened to be there twice or - horrors - he actually did think she made a good photography subject. I know a lot of photographers who love getting candid snapshots of people they don't know in certain settings where it really fits. In Disney, that just happens to be cute kids. Now suddenly he's a perverted pedophile circulating the photos on the internet? Weird.

DD has had her photo taken by others a handful of times when we're out and about. By a local reporter to run with a feature article, by strangers at the farmers market who spot her with a tulip we just bought and thought it was a great photo op, by a guy downtown walking around with a camera who saw her sneaking up to a squirrel at just the right time...

As long as I'm with her and keeping an eye on her I'm not terribly concerned.

But did any of those people creep you out? That's a big deal, and if someone wants to take a photo of my kids like that then they can let me know why they are taking it, or they can get close enough for me to ask them about it and not run off when they see me looking at them.

Photography is my hobby and I always take picture of cute or interesting moments. Some of them include kids.
Cannot see what the problem is?

No problem, I would just want you to ask me first, or to talk to me about why you're taking photos of my kids. That way if I don't feel right about it I can ask you to stop, or if I like the photos maybe you can send them to me via email.

As others have stated, there is really no way to control who takes pictures of what while at the parks.If the guy was creeping you that much, security needed to know about it.I saw in a prior post someone brought up the issues at the waterparks with pedophiles and "shady looking people"The fact is , that Pedophiles and child predators go where there is the biggest concentration of kids.Schools, playgrounds, pools, waterparks, THEMEPARKS. There will always be nefarious people around, most of whom you would never know were pedophiles.They may be ordinary people, look normal, have kids of their own and respectable jobs, and can be a raging pedophile. Be mindful, be watchful but not ridiculous.

Exactly, ITA with that last sentence. I don't flip out on people wanting to photograph my kids at all, my girls are very photogenic and don't mind either but please, have a good reason and don't run off when you see me looking at you....that's why I'm creeped out by the OP's description, she said he ran off after he caught her watching him....if his picture taking was innocent why did he run???? I can tell you this, if he had been taking pics of the girls, we noticed and he ran, I would have beelined to a CM while DBF would have beelined after the guy to see where he went. Just to see what the deal was, not to cause problems. But yes, as parents when we see things like that it is our job to go with our gut feelings and to put an end to whatever is going on. No, I don't shadow my kids everywhere and yes I understand that photos can and will be taken but it's the creepo vibe that I'm commenting on, not the random photos that I know are out there. With all our DL trips there is no way they aren't is someone's pictures. LOL

 

[star sweeper]

I would have mentioned it to a CM. I know you didn't have much to go on for a description, but it could have helped if he tried snapping pics of other young girls, and those families complained as well.

My children are Guatemalan, and I get comments on how beautiful they are all the time, especially my DD. I've had several older couples want to take their pictures to show how beautiful they are to friends and family, but politely refuse. Sure they are probably just well-meaning people, but you can never be sure in today's world.