What would Dissers do - Teens & drugs

[goofy!]

What complete bunk. So, if I have a beer then I look like a fool for not supporting the use of heroin? Sorry, the one who looks like a fool is the one who thinks that all drugs are equally dangerous.

I give my kids robitussin when they have a cold.

I don't worry that they will immediately move to robotripping.

OP, it sounds like your friend is going to handle this in a calm and moderate way. And all parents worry, that is part of our job description

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

My kid would not be allowed to hang out with the girls at their house. If they wanted to be together, they'd be at our house or not at all. Phone conversations would be okay. There's no reason to encourage the behavior of drugs.

Yes, if they really want to smoke, they will, but the parent doesn't need to make it easy.

 

[mjkacmom]

There are many people who smoke cigarettes or drink for 40 years, and don't get cancer either, yet it doesn't make it right. And I would say just because your husband has an MBA it still doesn't make his decision to smoke drugs each day a good one. Why stop once you have a child - if it's ok before, it should be ok after? He's lucky he didn't have any adverse effects - do kids really need to hear these stories though? All this does is encourage the behaviour. Like I said, I can show you hundreds of teens where the marijuana does affect them negatively, as well as a few adults who smoked so much, that it resulted in special needs children (it had a serious effect on their sperm). There are always exceptions, but kids don't need to know this...

If you are smoking each and everyday, you are addicted to the way it makes you feel, or, the act itself. You can get addicted to marijuana - we have lots of research, as well as workshops from police and drug counsellors that shows us that it is indeed addictive. There is physical addiction and emotional addiction, and that is what is at play here. If a young child is smoking each and everyday, then she is emotionally addicted and invested in that drug - something is working for her, because if it wasn't, she more than likely wouldn't continue the behaviour at that age. It is not social use or experimentation at that point.

This is all a moot point anyway, since I'm assuming your husband was in his 20s, whereas the OP's friends' daughter is in junior high - maybe 11 or 12 years old? Totally different as she is developing and growing, so putting drugs into an already confused brain and body, is not the greatest of choices. Your husband made the choice to consume drugs as an adult...totally different perspective.

Tiger

You really need to re-read the OP - the girl is a junior in high school, not in junior high. She's done growing. DH didn't smoke pot after we had children - there is no smoking of any substance in this house. He usually has a beer, though - same thing to me, but doesn't smell up the house. There is a big difference between having a beer after work (or a little pot), than having an addiction. After all those years of smoking pot, he didn't miss it at all. Having been a cigarette smoker for many years, I know what addiction feels like - quiting is a nighmare.

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

I talked to her again and she has been talking to her daughter about it and will continue to. I guess her DD just seems to feel that everything is just funnier (her words) when her and her friends are high. And I do think that maybe boredom might factor into it also.

They need something to do. If they can only be entertained when they are high, they are not really good friends. Friends don't need to "make" themselves funny - the fun should come naturally. It sounds like they are looking for entertainment, and that's not the right reason to get high!

Friend said DD told her that they aren't always smoking pot. Sometimes they smoke something called Posh?? which apparently is a smoking spice that has the same affects as pot without the ability to show up on drug tests and apparently you can buy it legally in some stores. I have never even heard of it.

They need to watch that stuff. There is a legal version sold around here called Spice. A local guy smoked so much of it (because he could) that he got sick, and I believe is now paralyzed because of the chemical effects on his system. Let me see if I can find the news story. Just because it is "legal" doesn't make it safe. Granted, this guy went WAY overboard with the usage, but still...

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-spice-paralysis-lafayette-082410,0,4730288.story

For those who don't want to open the link:
Lafayette, Ind. —
A Lafayette man is in the hospital suffering from paralysis after smoking the popular new drug known as "Spice." The very thing that gave 27-year-old Terry Clingerman so much pleasure is now what's causing him inexplicable pain.

"It feels like every muscle in my body has been torn," says Clingerman, laying on his hospital bed.

Wednesday night Clingerman did what he always did before going to bed. He smoked spice.
But he never expected what would happen next.

"I woke up early one night, fell to the floor, couldn't move my legs, couldn't move my hips. All I could do was drag myself by my forearms and that wasn't making it anyway so I laid on the floor for 13 hours, screaming, pounding on the floor asking for help. Nobody ever came," he remembers.

When help finally did arrive, it was too late.

Clingerman had suffered from severe muscle deterioration in his legs and abdomen.
A week later, he's still barely able to move his legs or torso, and can't even make a fist.

"Doctors say another two hours and I would have been dead."

Clingerman says over the course of two months, he smoked the brand called "Spike Max" three times a day.

"Over the span of two months I actually spent over $ 2,000," he admits.

And since it was legal, he didn't think it was dangerous. Now, Clingerman and his family want everyone to know the truth.

"He hurts all the time," his mother Bonnie Hurst says through tears. "He tries so hard to move his legs but they won't move."

Clingerman hopes his story will prevent others from ending up like him. His future remains uncertain, his prognosis grim.

"I'm going to be in here for a long time to come."

Tippecanoe County officials are in the process of drafting an ordinance prohibiting the sale of Spice. It's expected to be voted on next month.

 

[Tink888]

They need something to do. If they can only be entertained when they are high, they are not really good friends. Friends don't need to "make" themselves funny - the fun should come naturally. It sounds like they are looking for entertainment, and that's not the right reason to get high!


They need to watch that stuff. There is a legal version sold around here called Spice. A local guy smoked so much of it (because he could) that he got sick, and I believe is now paralyzed because of the chemical effects on his system. Let me see if I can find the news story. Just because it is "legal" doesn't make it safe. Granted, this guy went WAY overboard with the usage, but still...

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-spice-paralysis-lafayette-082410,0,4730288.story

For those who don't want to open the link:
Lafayette, Ind. —
A Lafayette man is in the hospital suffering from paralysis after smoking the popular new drug known as "Spice." The very thing that gave 27-year-old Terry Clingerman so much pleasure is now what's causing him inexplicable pain.

"It feels like every muscle in my body has been torn," says Clingerman, laying on his hospital bed.

Wednesday night Clingerman did what he always did before going to bed. He smoked spice.
But he never expected what would happen next.

"I woke up early one night, fell to the floor, couldn't move my legs, couldn't move my hips. All I could do was drag myself by my forearms and that wasn't making it anyway so I laid on the floor for 13 hours, screaming, pounding on the floor asking for help. Nobody ever came," he remembers.

When help finally did arrive, it was too late.

Clingerman had suffered from severe muscle deterioration in his legs and abdomen.
A week later, he's still barely able to move his legs or torso, and can't even make a fist.

"Doctors say another two hours and I would have been dead."

Clingerman says over the course of two months, he smoked the brand called "Spike Max" three times a day.

"Over the span of two months I actually spent over $ 2,000," he admits.

And since it was legal, he didn't think it was dangerous. Now, Clingerman and his family want everyone to know the truth.

"He hurts all the time," his mother Bonnie Hurst says through tears. "He tries so hard to move his legs but they won't move."

Clingerman hopes his story will prevent others from ending up like him. His future remains uncertain, his prognosis grim.

"I'm going to be in here for a long time to come."

Tippecanoe County officials are in the process of drafting an ordinance prohibiting the sale of Spice. It's expected to be voted on next month.

Thank you for posting this article!!! I will forward this to my friend to show her DD.

 

[Pikester]

They need something to do. If they can only be entertained when they are high, they are not really good friends. Friends don't need to "make" themselves funny - the fun should come naturally. It sounds like they are looking for entertainment, and that's not the right reason to get high!


They need to watch that stuff. There is a legal version sold around here called Spice. A local guy smoked so much of it (because he could) that he got sick, and I believe is now paralyzed because of the chemical effects on his system. Let me see if I can find the news story. Just because it is "legal" doesn't make it safe. Granted, this guy went WAY overboard with the usage, but still...

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-spice-paralysis-lafayette-082410,0,4730288.story

For those who don't want to open the link:
Lafayette, Ind. —
A Lafayette man is in the hospital suffering from paralysis after smoking the popular new drug known as "Spice." The very thing that gave 27-year-old Terry Clingerman so much pleasure is now what's causing him inexplicable pain.

"It feels like every muscle in my body has been torn," says Clingerman, laying on his hospital bed.

Wednesday night Clingerman did what he always did before going to bed. He smoked spice.
But he never expected what would happen next.

"I woke up early one night, fell to the floor, couldn't move my legs, couldn't move my hips. All I could do was drag myself by my forearms and that wasn't making it anyway so I laid on the floor for 13 hours, screaming, pounding on the floor asking for help. Nobody ever came," he remembers.

When help finally did arrive, it was too late.

Clingerman had suffered from severe muscle deterioration in his legs and abdomen.
A week later, he's still barely able to move his legs or torso, and can't even make a fist.

"Doctors say another two hours and I would have been dead."

Clingerman says over the course of two months, he smoked the brand called "Spike Max" three times a day.

"Over the span of two months I actually spent over $ 2,000," he admits.

And since it was legal, he didn't think it was dangerous. Now, Clingerman and his family want everyone to know the truth.

"He hurts all the time," his mother Bonnie Hurst says through tears. "He tries so hard to move his legs but they won't move."

Clingerman hopes his story will prevent others from ending up like him. His future remains uncertain, his prognosis grim.

"I'm going to be in here for a long time to come."

Tippecanoe County officials are in the process of drafting an ordinance prohibiting the sale of Spice. It's expected to be voted on next month.

That is an interesting article. Just last night on the news here in NH there was a story about that but they called it K2. My DS13 who is a 7th grader saw the story and mentioned to me that he had heard of K2 and that some high schoolers on the bus were talking about it. He has a friend that is addicted to chew tobacco and heard another kid on the bus ride home from school asking if anyone had a cigerette. Let's just say we had another talk about the dangers of those things.

 

[Tiger926]

What complete bunk. So, if I have a beer then I look like a fool for not supporting the use of heroin? Sorry, the one who looks like a fool is the one who thinks that all drugs are equally dangerous.

We aren't talking about beer - speaking about illegal drugs. Beer is legal, so you need to handle that as you see fit, but for kids, you can't decide that one illegal drug is ok, but not another. Didn't say that all drugs are equally dangerous...but teaching kids that some illegal drugs are ok, and others are not, is hypocritical. The act of using illegal drugs should not be encouraged, period.

I don't see where anyone says they would allow it, and it's not how I would choose for my teen to spend his time, however, I'm able to keep it in perspective. There is a big difference between a teen smoking a joint now and then and someone mainlining heroin; and if I found out my teen was occasionally getting high on pot I'd treat it differently than if I found out my teen was shooting up.

Just because there might be a physical difference, doesn't mean it's right. So, sure if your teen was occassionally smoking pot, you don't have to worry about heart issues, something that might come from using cocaine or heroine, but pot is still a drug. Both are illegal drugs...since when do we as parents or teachers decide that some drugs are ok, just because they have less side effects than another?

Personally I would take a middle of the road type of response. Not simply saying it is no big deal, but then again not treating it like a huge issue either.

I think that for the most part smoking pot is less dangerous to one's health than smoking cigarettes. EXCEPT that pot is not legal and that adds all kinds of ramifications such as the possibility of being prosecuted, the possibility of getting a drug mixed with other (worse) substances, the danger of being involved in any way with people who are illegally trading drugs, etc.

I would probably talk to my teen and make sure she understands all of the practical reasons why smoking pot could be trouble (well, I have had this talk already with my kids and it crops up from time ti time anyway--but I guess if I were in the situation described in the OP I would need to reiterate the message).
I would also want to know more about what is really going on. Are they growing it themselves just for their use? (thus taking away some of the worst concerns). Does she feel she is addicted and may need help to stop? Does she go to class or drive high, or is she only using after school when walking home? How does SHE view what she is doing (is she defensive and clearly trying to rebel? Is she trying to fit in with friends? Does she truly find it relaxing? Does she NEED to get high or just do so when the opportunity arises?).

My reaction would depend largely on what I found out from this talk. I MIGHT seek treatment for her (for addiction or an underlying depression, etc). I MIGHT take away driving privileges (certainly if I felt she may have driven while high). I MIGHT want her to only be places with adult supervision (but she could still be with her friends as long as a trusted adult were also there).
I would not try to tell a child (especially not an older teen) who they can and cannot be friends with. Nor would I take away a ton of stuff and set up a me vs. them situation.

The legal age to drink beer and wine where I live is 16. I think that is great. The kids are learning how to handle drinking, how much is appropriate, etc. while they are still young enough to be living at home and have a parent's guidance.


While I don't actually supply my kids with any such list, YES, I do think my kids (and most) are perfectly capable of handling shades of grey and knowing drugs (like most other thins) are not an all or nothing thing. I guess the drug/substance list for my kids would include this type of thing:

alcohol: never okay when driving. Otherwise fine (maybe even healthy) in smaller quantities but can be dangerous if not used appropriately.

cigarettes: legal (after 18 in the US I believe) but deadly to you and those around you (slow, painful death) and highly addictive. I hope you avoid them always.

Glue: use it to glue things (be sure there is good ventilation) but not to get high this can really be quite dangerous.

Caffeine: Fine in smallish doses, but don't get so hyped up on it you are shaking and don;t use it excessively to short change yourself on sleep.

Pot: Not all that bad for you in truth, but like alcohol it could be easily overused if not careful AND because it is illegal it is fraught with other issues. If you are in a country where it is legal and you know the source is okay, trying it in reasonable quantities is probably fine.

Prescription drugs: mostly good when used according to doctor's orders. Pay attention though and stop and get help for weird reactions and also pay attention to the research for anything you will be on long term. Drug companies are out for profit and not always as honest as they should be.

Meth: Could be deadly the first time out. Stay away from this!!!!

and on and on and on (you get the idea, right?).

Oh, and no I do not think I look like a fool when I allow my child to drink a Coke when they are sleepy and need the boost to make it through a late night show (they are in theatre) but not to smoke crack. I think I would look like a fool if i failed to recognize that different drugs have vastly different uses and reactions.

Again, we are talking about illegal drugs - caffeine and nicotene are legal, so how you handle that may be different than pot or heroine. This is a good list, and this is the kind of stuff we talk about with our students.

OP here - thanks to all for the responses. I am going to show this thread to my friend.

I talked to her again and she has been talking to her daughter about it and will continue to. I guess her DD just seems to feel that everything is just funnier (her words) when her and her friends are high. And I do think that maybe boredom might factor into it also.

Friend said DD told her that they aren't always smoking pot. Sometimes they smoke something called Posh?? which apparently is a smoking spice that has the same affects as pot without the ability to show up on drug tests and apparently you can buy it legally in some stores. I have never even heard of it.

Friend also said that where the friendships are concerned.....that I guess this isn't the only reason she'd just as soon see the friendship end. She said there have been some instances in the past with lying, etc and she's just getting more and more of a bad vibe in the past few months so I guess there's a lot more behind it. I still don't know how she'd enforce it and not have it completely backfire.

She's just worried. We've all done our share of stuff when we were young, just gets harder to keep perspective and not over-react with our own kids. How can you not worry? I tell her to TALK, TALK, TALK.

Talking is so important, and really listening to what our teens are telling us. Good luck to your friend!

Please provide a scientific link that proves pot causes birth defects due to changes in sperm

Well, short of showing you the serious genetic testing that this individual went through, I can't do that. This is an actual real person, who has been through some serious genetic testing.

My kid would not be allowed to hang out with the girls at their house. If they wanted to be together, they'd be at our house or not at all. Phone conversations would be okay. There's no reason to encourage the behavior of drugs.

Yes, if they really want to smoke, they will, but the parent doesn't need to make it easy.

That is my point exactly...why do we as adults need to encourage drug use?

You really need to re-read the OP - the girl is a junior in high school, not in junior high. She's done growing. DH didn't smoke pot after we had children - there is no smoking of any substance in this house. He usually has a beer, though - same thing to me, but doesn't smell up the house. There is a big difference between having a beer after work (or a little pot), than having an addiction. After all those years of smoking pot, he didn't miss it at all. Having been a cigarette smoker for many years, I know what addiction feels like - quiting is a nighmare.

I'm sorry, I did misread. Thanks for pointing that out. I can't speak to your husband's brain chemicals, only you and he can do that. I don't teach my students, nor my own children, that illegal drugs are ok for some people. I don't find they are ok, period. Just because some people have issues, and others seemingly don't, doesn't matter to me. It's just like some people win the lottery and smoke for 50 years without any cancer, and some, get cancer after smoking for 1 year. The potential is there, and that is all that should matter.

Tiger

 

[BellvilleDad]

It would be martial law here. Freedom and trust need to be earned, period. Without knowing details, this may be a really good kid who made some bad choices, but actions have consequences.

Agreed with this. I graduated HS in '82, and there were several who smoked marajuana. They were the "potheads", and were generally disdained. I see no reason why marajuana's caché among the potheads of old should make it more acceptable today.

This is not directed at anyone here. I just don't agree with letting children think it's ok to use illegal drugs. Or even using legal drugs the wrong way.

 

[goofy!]

I don't think a single parent here has said that they actually condone their child doing drugs of any kind.

The OP was asking about to how to deal with a teen experimenting and what to do about it. Many parents here believe that the occasional experimenting of pot is not going to automatically lead to more dangerous behavior and will deal with it accordingly.

We regularly have discussion about being strong enough to say no to any type of drug, pot or otherwise.

However, if I found my child had been experimenting with pot, yes I would be a bit worried and more discussions and further exploration of why they were experimenting would happen, but it would not be the be all, end all warranting martial punishment such as banning friends and removing all privileges.

The most serious of punishments would be saved for the most serious of infractions, hopefully never having to be used. Having a joint a few times a week is to me, not the most serious of serious infractions, and would be dealt with accordingly. Making a teen incredibly resentful over an overly harsh punishment for something that is often viewed as only a minor to moderate infraction will only serve to drive them to that behavior more.

 

[klacey1]

WOW! All I can say is just wow. I cannot believe how many people are defending smoking pot!

Maybe it just isn't as common here, or at least maybe it wasn't when I was in high school in the early 90s, but I went to a high school in the country, in Ontario, Canada, and while there were a few kids who everyone knew did drugs, it certainly wasn't mainstream. I went to a lot of parties, and I can't ever remember seeing others doing drugs... if they were, they certainly weren't pressuring me to do any.

It's illegal, it affects the way you think, it's dangerous when driving, it costs a lot of money to do it that often (who is paying for it???), and like another poster likely said... they are bored.

You can't really break up the friendship, but I'd have serious talks with my daughter about why she was doing it, and all the circumstances surrounding it. I would punish her, make her stop, and she would lose a lot of my trust. If I found out she was still doing it afterwards, she would again be punished.

And for those who said it is just like sneaking a beer... sorry, but a 15 or 16 year old doesn't need to be drinking beer either. There's a reason the legal drinking age is 19 here!

I have to agree with you. I'm more surprised than anything else, honestly. Of all the things Disser's get up in arms about, the fact that so many here don't think a high school girl getting high multiple times a week is a big deal is pretty shocking!
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I would be LIVID if this were my child. Now, I'm not a parent, so I don't know exactly how I'd handle the situation, but there would be serious consequences. I wouldn't try to break up a friendship-- like many PP's have said, that's impossible.
Yes many successful people have smoked, whatever. That doesn't mean it's okay. It's an illegal drug. I don't think pot smokers should be burned at the stake (just to be clear), but I do think it's wrong. And if I found out my child was engaging in illegal (and what I believe to be very wrong) behavior, I'd do something about it. I'd also be incredibly disappointed. I'd be concerned about possible selling, as well. Where is a teen girl getting the money to use so often?

 

[BellvilleDad]

I don't think a single parent here has said that they actually condone their child doing drugs of any kind.

The OP was asking about to how to deal with a teen experimenting and what to do about it. Many parents here believe that the occasional experimenting of pot is not going to automatically lead to more dangerous behavior and will deal with it accordingly.

We regularly have discussion about being strong enough to say no to any type of drug, pot or otherwise.

However, if I found my child had been experimenting with pot, yes I would be a bit worried and more discussions and further exploration of why they were experimenting would happen, but it would not be the be all, end all warranting martial punishment such as banning friends and removing all privileges.

The most serious of punishments would be saved for the most serious of infractions, hopefully never having to be used. Having a joint a few times a week is to me, not the most serious of serious infractions, and would be dealt with accordingly. Making a teen incredibly resentful over an overly harsh punishment for something that is often viewed as only a minor to moderate infraction will only serve to drive them to that behavior more.

I understand that some folks don't think marajuana is a big deal. I, however, DO consider its use to be a serious infraction. If my teen wants to resent me for enforcing my rules, it'll just have to be that way. If they lean more to that behavior, then the punishment wasn't severe enough. I've never been one to acquiesce to a child simply because the punishment might hurt their feelings.

 

[mjkacmom]

I understand that some folks don't think marajuana is a big deal. I, however, DO consider its use to be a serious infraction. If my teen wants to resent me for enforcing my rules, it'll just have to be that way. If they lean more to that behavior, then the punishment wasn't severe enough. I've never been one to acquiesce to a child simply because the punishment might hurt their feelings.

I don't think anyone has said they wouldn't harshly punish their child for smoking pot because it might hurt their feelings. I wouldn't punish my child harshly, because I save harsh punishments for infractions that I feel are serious. Honestly, I'd have no problem having marijuana legalized - and if my child is going to experiment, I prefer pot over alcohol.

And when I graduated from HS in 1985, lots of social groups (including the really smart kids ) smoked pot. It seemed like only the "potheads" smoked it extensively - the others just dabbled. There is a difference.

 

[Tiger926]

Thought the OP, or others might be interested in some of the fact based websites and literature that we use with our students. Here are a few very reliable sources:

http://www.camh.net/About_Addiction_Mental_Health/AMH101/top_searched_cannabis.html#addictive

http://www.nida.nih.gov/marijbroch/marijteens.html

http://www.lung.ca/protect-protegez/tobacco-tabagisme/facts-faits/marijuana-marijuana_e.php

http://www.cancer.ca/sitecore/content/Home.aspx

http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/natureofthings/2010/downsideofhigh/facts.html

http://bc.rcmp.ca/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=154&languageId=1&contentId=7054

http://www.teendrugabuse.us/marijuana.html

http://www.nida.nih.gov/researchreports/marijuana/marijuana4.html

The big thing for us as highschol teachers, is the new research on first episode psychosis and schizophrenia and its ties to marijuana usage. It's very telling and important for parents and teachers to know this information.

Hope others find this useful, Tiger

 

[BellvilleDad]

I don't think anyone has said they wouldn't harshly punish their child for smoking pot because it might hurt their feelings. I wouldn't punish my child harshly, because I save harsh punishments for infractions that I feel are serious. Honestly, I'd have no problem having marijuana legalized - and if my child is going to experiment, I prefer pot over alcohol.

And when I graduated from HS in 1985, lots of social groups (including the really smart kids ) smoked pot. It seemed like only the "potheads" smoked it extensively - the others just dabbled. There is a difference.

Good enough.

Have a great Thanksgiving!

 

[superme80]

It would be martial law here. Freedom and trust need to be earned, period. Without knowing details, this may be a really good kid who made some bad choices, but actions have consequences.

This. I would end the friendships.

 

[wvjules]

We aren't talking about beer - speaking about illegal drugs. Beer is legal, so you need to handle that as you see fit, but for kids, you can't decide that one illegal drug is ok, but not another. Didn't say that all drugs are equally dangerous...but teaching kids that some illegal drugs are ok, and others are not, is hypocritical. The act of using illegal drugs should not be encouraged, period.

Tiger

Well, techincally isn't alcohol illegal for a teenager since the drinking age is 21? That makes them both illegal for a 16 year old.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

This. I would end the friendships.

No - you would strengthen them by trying to end them.

 

[Tiger926]

Well, techincally isn't alcohol illegal for a teenager since the drinking age is 21? That makes them both illegal for a 16 year old.

Yup, you are correct, but some parents do give permission in their own homes for kids to consume alcohol. Not much can be done with that, unless the child leaves the home drunk and causes an accident or hurts someone else. Plus, alcohol as a product, is not illegal, whereas pot is.

Tiger

 

[FlightlessDuck]

First, other kids wouldn't be allowed in our house when we aren't home, and our kids aren't allowed in other people's homes when their parents aren't home. I might start relaxing this as my kids got older (16?) but if drugs became an issue, this rule would be enforced again.

I would not prevent my child from being friends with these other kids, but I wouldn't let my child be alone with them.

I would also rat out the other kids to their parents.

There would probably be some kind of grounding or other punishment.

We'd have a firm discussion on the affects of marijuana and other drugs, legal or illegal.

I'd also find my child something else to do so he or she wasn't bored.

 

[mhsjax]

Bottom line is that marijuana use is ILLEGAL and the kids could be arrested for this. This can destroy their opportunities for getting into college, scholarships etc, as well as employement opportunities.

Exactly. I don't get this, oh, it is only pot, All kid experiment. DH didn't, he was 13 and at a teen club. He saw a kid on PC run in front of a car and literally get ripped apart, as in body parts all over. That pretty much cured him.

It is illegal and you can get arrested. All of this talk about everyone raising responsible adults here on the dis, and yet some seem to think it is ok. WRONG.

Now does this mean if a parent gets involved that the child is a snowflake? not sure just exactly where that stand.