What type of attractions do you want for Avatar?

[ASteelersMidget]

Looks like a lot of us that normally differ in opinion are in agreement. With that amount of funding for a single "land", and the "world" available to them, they should be able to present something amazing.

A big part of what makes me think that'll happen isn't Disney but having Cameron involved. While he has a huge ego - he is also a notorious perfectionist and supports the forefront of technology. The last theme park attraction he was involved with was Terminator 3-D (remember he actually shot the film used for that attraction), which at the time was pretty amazing. (I haven't seen it in 14 years, so not sure how it holds up today.) Maybe its just wishful thinking, but I believe he will push them to do something extra-ordinary.

I still Want a coaster. That said I agree that a Flying coaster is too extreme for what Disney is trying to do. With that said Well Themed Inverted coasters are some of the best out there. I'd love to see Disney do an Inverted coaster. I just think they need a coaster. After that, I want something new as well. I don't really care what it is but something else indoors would be good as there isn't a huge amount of Air conditioning in AK.

That's my $.02

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I still Want a coaster. That said I agree that a Flying coaster is too extreme for what Disney is trying to do. With that said Well Themed Inverted coasters are some of the best out there. I'd love to see Disney do an Inverted coaster. I just think they need a coaster. After that, I want something new as well. I don't really care what it is but something else indoors would be good as there isn't a huge amount of Air conditioning in AK.

That's my $.02

Here, Here....while i am not fully on-board with Avatar, james cameron, or its place in Animal Kingdom...

I am cautiously fanning the kindling flames of excitement that this could help to work (building on fantasyland...which is not an expansion...but is starting to look great over the construction walls last week) towards reversing a horrid period in theme park construction from the late 90s through...well...today.

(i could go into a long diatribe...but its a tangent on my statement prior)

And I DONT WANT ANYMORE SIMULATORS OR 3-D....yeah, that stuff was cool and all...but its technologically obselete and i don't need somekinda lame "no-G" show on wheels.

The best experience within a theme park involes movement and Isaac Newton.

Look at WDW - the best attractions (apologies to the nemo stage show) are headed by splash mountain, space mountain, rockinroller coaster, and tower of terror....

and you know what they all do? MOVE!!! the thrill is provided by real three dimensional movement and forces....not 3-D glasses. I also include pirates and hauntend mansion in the list of best...but those have a heavy dose of "walt built it" disney nostalgia layered on it as well.

Disney has DONE the simulator thing...and they have DONE the 3-D thing. Now they should BE done with it.

Give me movement....something with a lift hill or linear induction (heck...as rough as it is - i've hoped for 20 years they'd install the space mountain from paris at WDW)...it doesn't have to be a a cutting edge technology ride system....just something that encorporates physics with a good storyline.

And if they need an example ...there are two of the best in their parks.

Splash mountain is a stupid old log flume...but combined with the animatronics, its perhaps the greatest theme park ride ever built.
Tower of terror...while a great technological achievement at the time...is basically a drop tower with illusions and story elements incorporated into it.

That is what WDI was meant to do...its what kept their product lightyears ahead of all competitiors for 40 years....and that is where the future lies.

Build something real...make quality as least as important as hourly capacity...


This is a chance. Big shot Bobby said they'll strengthen their existing parks (ridiculous chinese construction notwithstanding)...do it, Bob.

And don't let joe rhode do it...he is a clown who screws everything up - my opinion.

 

[ASteelersMidget]

Here, Here....while i am not fully on-board with Avatar, james cameron, or its place in Animal Kingdom...

I am cautiously fanning the kindling flames of excitement that this could help to work (building on fantasyland...which is not an expansion...but is starting to look great over the construction walls last week) towards reversing a horrid period in theme park construction from the late 90s through...well...today.

(i could go into a long diatribe...but its a tangent on my statement prior)

And I DONT WANT ANYMORE SIMULATORS OR 3-D....yeah, that stuff was cool and all...but its technologically obselete and i don't need somekinda lame "no-G" show on wheels.

The best experience within a theme park involes movement and Isaac Newton.

Look at WDW - the best attractions (apologies to the nemo stage show) are headed by splash mountain, space mountain, rockinroller coaster, and tower of terror....

and you know what they all do? MOVE!!! the thrill is provided by real three dimensional movement and forces....not 3-D glasses. I also include pirates and hauntend mansion in the list of best...but those have a heavy dose of "walt built it" disney nostalgia layered on it as well.

Disney has DONE the simulator thing...and they have DONE the 3-D thing. Now they should BE done with it.

Give me movement....something with a lift hill or linear induction (heck...as rough as it is - i've hoped for 20 years they'd install the space mountain from paris at WDW)...it doesn't have to be a a cutting edge technology ride system....just something that encorporates physics with a good storyline.

And if they need an example ...there are two of the best in their parks.

Splash mountain is a stupid old log flume...but combined with the animatronics, its perhaps the greatest theme park ride ever built.
Tower of terror...while a great technological achievement at the time...is basically a drop tower with illusions and story elements incorporated into it.

That is what WDI was meant to do...its what kept their product lightyears ahead of all competitiors for 40 years....and that is where the future lies.

Build something real...make quality as least as important as hourly capacity...


This is a chance. Big shot Bobby said they'll strengthen their existing parks (ridiculous chinese construction notwithstanding)...do it, Bob.

And don't let joe rhode do it...he is a clown who screws everything up - my opinion.

Its not often I agree with you, but DANG! I agree 110%! I'm sick of 3-D and Simulators. They have enough.

GIVE ME MOVEMENT OR GIVE ME DEATH!

But seriously no more 3-D/Simulators. ESPECIALLY 3-D SIMULATORS!!!!

 

[skier_pete]

I would be OK with 3-D if it is something on the lines of Spideman/FJ over at IoA (well I'm assuming FJ cause I haven't been on it.) As pointed out, a purely 3-D motion simulator is very '90s technology. A ride that uses 3-D to assist with the thrills, that is OK by me.

 

[nytimez]

I don't want to see a simulator, although I have to admit that the new Star Tours was far better -- and I mean about 1,000 times better -- than what I ever would have guessed, and I have to give them credit for turning a very dull and pedestrian attraction into something actually pretty decent.

That said, I don't want "pretty decent" out of Avatar. I want some kick-butt attractions. I'm not entirely opposed to 3-D and the use of screens in new, creative and -- most importantly -- limited ways, but I do think physical objects and real movement are a key part of the ride experience, and simulation/3D can't replace them.

 

[wbk]

I agree with Chernab0g. Disney should scrap the whole notion of Avatar. It is not Disney and it will not have staying power.

 

[ASteelersMidget]

I agree with Chernab0g. Disney should scrap the whole notion of Avatar. It is not Disney and it will not have staying power.

If that's all you were gonna say than you sir are on the wrong thread. This is for the discussion of what Attractions we want. not if we want it or not. I'd love Avatar getting scrapped but its happening despite my opinion because I (and Obviously YOU) have no say in what Disney does.

this is to discuss what we want to go in there. Not if we want it there. This IS happening and we will continue to assume it's on schedule until Disney tells us we're it's cancelled.

Ok. Sorry for the rant but it just makes me angry when people post something on the wrong thread when there is a thread that exists that they should have posed it on.

 

[nytimez]

If that's all you were gonna say than you sir are on the wrong thread. This is for the discussion of what Attractions we want. not if we want it or not. I'd love Avatar getting scrapped but its happening despite my opinion because I (and Obviously YOU) have no say in what Disney does.

this is to discuss what we want to go in there. Not if we want it there. This IS happening and we will continue to assume it's on schedule until Disney tells us we're it's cancelled.

Ok. Sorry for the rant but it just makes me angry when people post something on the wrong thread when there is a thread that exists that they should have posed it on.

Especially when the "it's not Disney" argument is such nonsense in the first place, and anyone who makes it at this point is simply announcing that they're not paying attention.

 

[ASteelersMidget]

Especially when the "it's not Disney" argument is such nonsense in the first place, and anyone who makes it at this point is simply announcing that they're not paying attention.

I feel you guys know my opinions pretty Well. I think this is my first angry rant. I believe you guys have figured out I'm not a ranter so this was pretty bad.

Back on topic..............

Crap. What were we trying to talk about???

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I feel you guys know my opinions pretty Well. I think this is my first angry rant. I believe you guys have figured out I'm not a ranter so this was pretty bad.

Back on topic..............

Crap. What were we trying to talk about???

come on...that wasn't a rant...

you can do much better

 

[ASteelersMidget]

come on...that wasn't a rant...

you can do much better

haha. That's an extremely long rant for me!

 

[nytimez]

haha. That's an extremely long rant for me!

Maybe this will get you inspired.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I would be OK with 3-D if it is something on the lines of Spideman/FJ over at IoA (well I'm assuming FJ cause I haven't been on it.) As pointed out, a purely 3-D motion simulator is very '90s technology. A ride that uses 3-D to assist with the thrills, that is OK by me.

see...this is where i divert.

Spiderman was really cool...in 1999.

Its not anymore...its a car that swivels and moves on a flat track that shakes and bounces around a little....with 3-D glasses.

That kinda thing has had its time...and alot of the reason - i know - that universal and disney seems to love them is because they are indoors, high capacity, and air conditioned.

But if you're gonna drop 500 mil (which is important because every disney project runs 20% or more overbudget...i'm guessing the tag is probably in the 650 range...and Disney already has accepted that)...then you can build a warehouse big enough to hide a real indoor thrill experience (they do it all the time and imagineering is the best at hiding such things).

No 3-D....no simulators

they have 4 tired 3-D shows and still what amounts to 2 stimulators on the property.

Enough already...i don't care how many computers/ipods/ipads/coffee machines/and led tvs you hotwire together....the fact that its trying to trick your mind into thinking its moving...as opposed to putting your butt on tubular steel rails and actually letting the earth do its thing...is not cool.

never really was...for that matter.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

haha. That's an extremely long rant for me!

by the way...we aren't that dissimilar...

i grew up with the Stillers....and i found true love when i first saw 66's blades hit the glass...when i was 8...

just saying

 

[yitbos96bb]

This is what I would like to see a total of four attractions.

1. Flying Coaster Like Manta or Superman at ixflags GA: No major story needed you are simply flying over the scenic world of Pandora.

2. A dark ride using POTC ride system.

3. A clone of this from TDS Auqatopia

4. A 4D film.

You actually have a story there if you use the scene where they try to catch the Ikran or even the final battle scene.

I like these ideas, but I'm hoping for more than just 4 attractions.

Now if they could just figure out a way to do a Star Wars land at the Studios (yes I know the land isn't there) my geek quotient would be at maximum.

 

[nytimez]

You actually have a story there if you use the scene where they try to catch the Ikran or even the final battle scene.

I like these ideas, but I'm hoping for more than just 4 attractions.

Now if they could just figure out a way to do a Star Wars land at the Studios (yes I know the land isn't there) my geek quotient would be at maximum.

The land is there. They can ditch backlot express and build out from there into the current backstage areas there and right into the parking lot if they wanted to go that route.

 

[ASteelersMidget]

So I went back and looked at the original Plans for BK and DLUSA They both had a Large Coaster that got cut. One was a wood One was a steel. I personally as a coaster enthusiest prefer Steel To wood as wood really hurts my back and head (and i'm under 21 as I've said a bunch) I'm not sure how many of you are aware but there are coasters that combine the two. Smooth steel Track with all the show of the Large Wood frame.

Here's an example. It's Gemeni at Cedar Point. It's a dueling coaster (You could do the Human's VS the Na'vi)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHOaAd1MtPc

The video is a little bumpy but the ride is smooth I swear

Back to my point. I think this would be a cool ride to do in Avatar land. As i said it could be Humans VS Na'vi and a GOOD COASTER (looking at you Primeval whirl and somewhat EE) Animal Kingdom really needs.

 

[JoshAndEvsMom]

So, this isnt a ride wish but an atmospheric one. I would really love to see the entire land gradually change throughout the day; as in changing from day to night. I wamt to see details that you can only see at night or first thing in the morning or at 4:00 in the afternoon so that each time you visit its different somehow.

Im not sure how this would work since AK closes so early. I know the "excuse" is because of the animals but does anyone think there's a chance they keep it open longer? Especially if they're successful in making it a full day park?

Id also love a WoC-like nightime show like a pp said. But again, theres that early closure thing. *sigh*

 

[Josh Hendy]

This is what I would like to see a total of four attractions.

1. Flying Coaster Like Manta or Superman at ixflags GA: No major story needed you are simply flying over the scenic world of Pandora.

2. A dark ride using POTC ride system.

3. A clone of this from TDS Auqatopia

4. A 4D film.

1. I love Manta but it's a bit too much for people younger than about 13 or older than about 45 (and many people in between) ... too high, too fast, too much G-force, too hard getting tilted onto your stomach. If Disney could come up with a milder version then I would love it. Something about the speed and thrill of Everest would be just right. If they could do that it would expand the age range to around 8 - 65 years old.

2. A POTC-type dark ride would be nice, or anything resembling Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan or ET (at Universal). Plussed up of course with more the latest technology such as you see on Spiderman, Harry Potter Forbidden Journey or Revenge of the Mummy (flames!). Or better yet, something above and beyond the current state of the art.

3. The Aquatopia ride looks a bit lame in the pictures but maybe I'm not giving it its due. Kali River is too short and static, do you think they could come up with a better raft ride with lots of effects, thrills, and randomly programmed routes and events? Kind of a Jurassic Park River Adventure but longer, with aliens and random outcomes.

I understand that Avatar is sort of an "anti-war-but-darn-it-we-have-to-kill-them-in-self-defense" movie, so maybe a shooting type ride would work, like Men in Black on a boat (or flying coaster).

4. I watched the Terminator 4D thing for the first time ever this year at Universal and I didn't like it very much, and neither did the fambly. Anything that resembles a walk-through attraction - with lots of noise, flashes and bangs and where it really just amounts to watching a movie - is high up on my "annoying" list (the absolutely very worst being the Poseidon thing at Islands of Adventure). But a "Soarin' over Pandora" ride would be great - no 3D, just fine moviemaking, great music and the mild but thrilling sensation of flying that makes "Soarin" such a popular ride for all ages.

I would be satisfied with a total of 2 rides - a "Soarin" type ride which portrays the journey through space to Pandora, flying over the surface, descending into the jungle and then landing at Avatar HQ (or whatever). Then some other kind of state-of-the-art ride resembling Forbidden Journey, or an advanced (but not too thrilling) coaster, or a very exciting boat ride which represents some kind of adventure occurring on Pandora. And of course extremely well designed queues, at least one of them with the size and quality of Forbidden Journey and the other one at least as good as Everest or Revenge of the Mummy.

 

[Oglet]

1. Something that works well during the day and totally changes the experience at night.

2. Dining, Yes I said Dining. Animal Kingdom really needs more dining offerings. A nice sit down and a different kind of QS that does not only serve Pizza, Chicken and Fries.

3. A night time show of some sorts, water/laser and some pyrotechnics would be amazing. You can have some fire, sparks and effects without shaking and waking half the county.

4. Obviously rides, I have no idea what kind of rides should be there. I would say at least 3 rides. One signature ride of some kind and 2 other smaller scale rides one of which could be a people eating experience of some sort.

Whatever they do I am sure people will be excited, let down, happy, upset and about every other variation of feeling possible.