I have 2 night owls, just like their mama.
Right now, since it's summer, most of the time I make them go to bed around 10, sometimes I let them do what they want. The other night my son(the 8 year old) was up until almost 2am. Mostly they fall alseep around 11, 11:30.
My husband wakes them up at 8 when he's getting ready to leave for work. They pop out of bed ready to start the day.
You'd think they'd be cranky or extra tired and ready for bed earlier the next night, but..nope. I have the kids who just do NOT sleep. Both my kids gave up naps at 13 months old. It drove me insane, now I just accept it.
During the school year(they'll be in 3rd and 5th this year) most of the time they are sent to bed at 9, lights out at 9:30.
Ideally.
Sometimes, they end up with lights out around 10 instead.
My daughter falls asleep around 10:30, 11. My son falls asleep around 11, 11:30.
They get up at 7:30, 7:45 for school.
My daughter's dance class on Wednesdays doesn't even start intil 7:15. Finishes at 8:45, home by 9.
Practice for whatever they happen to be playing is usually 6-8.
There's just no way we can have an 8pm bedtime in our house, it would not work.
My husband and I stay up at least until midnight every night so we do get some downtime.
I can't MAKE my kids be tired. I can send them to bed, but they'll fall asleep when they fall asleep.