What on earth makkes a "former youth minister", or anyone, do something like this?

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by spagheddie
It's the thrill of the chase. I've never caught a foul ball, but imagine proudly holding a foul ball aloft with your foot on the chest of the person you just knocked down. That type of glory you can't buy on ebay.

As long as that person is not under the age of 12, I have no problem

 

[CindysGusGus]

I speak to a lot of pastors, youth ministers and people who claim to be Christians on a daily basis. Let me tell ya...some of them can be down right mean and nasty. Good thing this guy is FORMER-Youth Pastor...he possibly could join the ranks with the aforementioned above.

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by CindysGusGus
I speak to a lot of pastors, youth ministers and people who claim to be Christians on a daily basis. Let me tell ya...some of them can be down right mean and nasty. Good thing this guy is FORMER-Youth Pastor...he possibly could join the ranks with the aforementioned above.

That's cause we're all human, and all people, no matter whether they are religious or not, Christians, Jews, Mulsims or whatever religion they are can be nasty. IMHO, what religion they are has NOTHING to do with their nastiness.

 

[BibbidyBobbidyBoo]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
Starr is “not the bad guy he’s been made out to be,” said Rick DuBose, senior pastor of the Sachse Assembly of God Church. “He probably got a little aggressive and did something he regrets. But that’s not Matt. He’s a good kid, a good young man.”

I won't believe these comments about this guy Matt until he apologizes to the little boy for doing that to him. How can he say he did something he regrets when he's not even apologizing?

 

[CindysGusGus]

Originally posted by beattyfamily
That's cause we're all human, and all people, no matter whether they are religious or not, Christians, Jews, Mulsims or whatever religion they are can be nasty. IMHO, what religion they are has NOTHING to do with their nastiness.

I agree everyone is human...but the people I deal with are Christian and dont act very Christian-like...as this man did not. To me if you are going to put yourself on a pedastal by claiming to be a "Christian, Pastor or ect" then in the eyes of everyone else you are going to be held to a higher standard. Would you be in shock if the Pope was nasty and mean spirited in a conversation with you? I think most people would be. Again this is my honest opinion to which everyone is entitled one.

 

[hrh_disney_queen]

 

[tonyswife]

Had it been me and my pre-schooler, I would have called the police and pressed charges. There is NO excuse for mauling a child.

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by CindysGusGus
Again this is my honest opinion to which everyone is entitled one.

When did I say you were entitled to it?

My point is it's not just Christians. That's all.

 

[CindysGusGus]

Im sorry Beatty family....I didnt mean to imply that you said I wasnt entitled to an opinion... I was just stating my side, but I definately understand what you are saying. Didnt mean to come off like I didnt. Sorry

 

[janette]

Rangers fan will apologize, send ball to boy

06:19 PM CDT on Wednesday, June 16, 2004

From Staff Reports

Matt Starr, the Rangers fan whose quest for a foul ball Sunday made national news, has agreed to send the ball and a letter of apology to the family of 4-year-old Nick O'Brien, according to Gregg Elkin, the team's senior director of baseball media relations.
Starr also will provide the family with an unspecified number of tickets to future Rangers games, Elkin said.

Nick was knocked against the seats during a third-inning scramble for the ball at the Rangers-Cardinals game at Ameriquest Field in Arlington.

Starr grabbed the ball, which landed under the seat of Nick's mother, Edie, and returned to his seat. Nick's father, Jeff, also was at the game.

It didn't take long for fans to respond. Mike Hall of Fort Worth, about 10 rows behind the incident, stood up and shouted, "Give him the ball!" The chant mushroomed to nearby sections. Even Rangers announcer Tom Grieve voiced his disapproval on TV. But Starr refused and was booed.

Eventually, the distraction reached the Texas and St. Louis dugouts. Cardinals outfielder Reggie Sanders, who saw what happened on TV, went to the section and called Nick and Edie down to the rail to give them a bat and ball. The Rangers also gave Nick a bat from outfielder Kevin Mench. By the next inning, Nick had three more baseballs.

Since then, the O'Briens have become media celebrities. They appeared on local news shows from the living room of their Plano home on Tuesday and flew to New York Wednesday for a live interview on ABC's Good Morning America.

Host Charlie Gibson presented Nick with a gift bag from the New York Mets – along with three tickets to the Mets-Indians interleague contest at Shea Stadium.

Teams of news reporters circled the Sachse home of Starr, a 28-year-old landscaper, Tuesday. Members of his childhood church said he is a former youth minister who once coached the women's softball team.

Dallas Morning News staff writers Ben Shpigel, Gretel C. Kovach, Pat Gillespie and Kevin Lonnquist contributed information to this report.

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

And thus ends the singularly most embarrassing episode of that guy's life.

 

[Mom2Angels]

Here's a link to a still picture from the game -



http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...rangers/stories/061404dnsporangfan.20ff5.html

Debbie

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by CindysGusGus
Im sorry Beatty family....I didnt mean to imply that you said I wasnt entitled to an opinion... I was just stating my side, but I definately understand what you are saying. Didnt mean to come off like I didnt. Sorry

Oh, no need for appologies. I may have taken what you said the wrong way. All is good!

 

[goofygirl]

And it is newsworthy, because the media decided it was.

That says a lot about how stupid the media really is. And people are saying *I* don't have MY priorities straight? I think the media's priorities are way out of line!

It is absolutely scary to me that this Starr guy was practically hunted down like a witch with the press revealing his name, where he's from, where he works, where he USED to work, etc. Convicted felons have more privacy than this!

Oh, but *I* am the one with the mixed up priorities!

 

[Bob Slydell]

Originally posted by goofygirl
That says a lot about how stupid the media really is. And people are saying *I* don't have MY priorities straight? I think the media's priorities are way out of line!

It is absolutely scary to me that this Starr guy was practically hunted down like a witch with the press revealing his name, where he's from, where he works, where he USED to work, etc. Convicted felons have more privacy than this!

Oh, but *I* am the one with the mixed up priorities!

Same thing happened to the Cubs fan last year during the playoffs, but I don't seem to recall you complaining about the media coverage then?

 

[meandtheguys]

Originally posted by goofygirl
That says a lot about how stupid the media really is. And people are saying *I* don't have MY priorities straight? I think the media's priorities are way out of line!

It is absolutely scary to me that this Starr guy was practically hunted down like a witch with the press revealing his name, where he's from, where he works, where he USED to work, etc. Convicted felons have more privacy than this!

Oh, but *I* am the one with the mixed up priorities!

You've got a point there GG!

 

[goofygirl]

It would be wrong if he had knocked down another adult too. I wonder what your take on that would be, if there had not been a child involved.

I still would not think it is such a big deal.


If the kid got seriously hurt, I can understand the concern. But since pratically nothing happened to the kid, I refuse to feel sorry for him. He's probably experienced worse treatment from other kids, (scratches, bumps and bruises from playing) or even his parents (spanking).

 

[Deb in IA]

Originally posted by Bob Slydell
Same thing happened to the Cubs fan last year during the playoffs, but I don't seem to recall you complaining about the media coverage then?

That's because there was no innocent CHILD involved in the Cubs incident, to give goofygirl an opportunity to vent her anti-kid venom.

 

[goofygirl]

Same thing happened to the Cubs fan last year during the playoffs, but I don't seem to recall you complaining about the media coverage then?

For the record, I thought that whole thing was ridiculous as well.

 

[Eeyore1954]

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It would be wrong if he had knocked down another adult too. I wonder what your take on that would be, if there had not been a child involved.
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Originally posted by goofygirl
I still would not think it is such a big deal.

What if he had knocked over, kicked or stepped on a cat? I'll bet there'd be more howling & yeowling from you than from the cat!