What is your line in the sand?

[stephm0188]

When the magical feeling is gone.

I'm sure lots of things go into making that feeling happen, and I'm not really sure what it would take just yet to push me over the edge. It's not all warm fuzzies the entire trip, but it is for much of it. That makes it all worth it to me.

 

[ORMom2Four]

If they start charging for Fastpass, we will not renew our AP's.

We also have AP's to Universal, and have decided not to renew because of their Express Pass.

 

[disneyfantotheend]

Problem is Disney doesn't care. I am sure MOST of us have a line in the sand, but no matter what there will always be plenty of people who will still go. Once in a lifetimers, those who haven't reached their line in the sand and die hard fans who will go regardless of what they do.

But my line would most likely be pricing. I am sure there will always be changes to FP systems, attractions, cm attitudes, park hours. None of those really bother me, most companies try new things to see what works best, but if you can't afford it, you don't go, so that has to be the boldest line in my opinion.

 

[poppinspenguins]

I haven't experienced anything yet that would cause me to even momentarily second guess a trip to Disney. On trips of at least a week we do go to Universal as well. My friend and I are a couple of Potterheads and the Spider-Man ride is one of my faves.

If they stopped doing runDisney events, or had a massive increase in price for them, I would definitely cut the trips to Disney back to once every couple of years. We're also big fans of the dining plan (I know a lot of people aren't, or don't see the value in it, but I make it work for us and it's just one less thing to worry about) and if they got rid of that it would definitely give me pause. Neither of these are the actual lines in the sand, but they'd push me right up to the line and it probably at that point wouldn't take much to knock me across.

We are the same way. It doesnt work for everyone, but we save money on it (we do the math) We have found more value in the Quick serve plan than the regular one. Often we would get fruit/pastries for our dessert and juice for our drink...and Voila ...breakfast

 

[poppinspenguins]

Problem is Disney doesn't care. I am sure MOST of us have a line in the sand, but no matter what there will always be plenty ofpeople who will still go. Once in a lifetimers, those who haven't reached their line in the sand and die hard fans who will go regardless of what they do.

But my line would most likely be pricing. I am sure there will always be changes to FP systems, attractions, cm attitudes, park hours. None of those really bother me, most companies try new things to see what works best, but if you can't afford it, you don't go, so that has to be the boldest line in my opinion.

Totally agree...Disney doesnt care unless bottom lines are affected. Price may be the only thing that will eventually do that. And I definately still value in Disney and enjoy going.

I was just curious since the the board is made up of huge fans, what one things could deter even the most rabid fan. And maybe not totally, but as many have alluded to...make you change your plans slightly.

 

[limabeanmom2003]

I'll stop going when I'm dead. I've been going since 1976 and I cherish the memories I have of being at disney with family and friends, some who are no longer here. As prices go up, I may go for fewer days or not spend as much money on food, but I will continue to go. Disney is my happy place.

 

[Mikie]

My line in the sand would be prices. It is already an undertaking for us to plan a trip and we always stay at the Values!

Other changes are only an inconvenience *to me*. One park undergoing lots of change/construction right now just means I'll spend more time at a different park, FP+ has not been a negative to me, I don't do many upcharge or hard ticket events - if it starts to seem that regular admission isn't getting me as much any more (attractions not updated or added, reduced park hours for non-party tickets, "basic" experience not kept up with good CMs or features taken away) coupled with increasing prices would be my line. . . Not there yet. Dont think I'm teetering on it yet either.

 

[Schmeck]

They'd have to put up multiple, loud, obnoxious, outdoor roller coasters (like at Universal and Six Flags) for me not to go. Nothing like hearing people screaming and the rumble of the coaster while wandering through Hogsmeade (or anywhere else in the park). The only rumble I've heard at WDW from a coaster has been confined to the land that the coaster is in, and it's not too invasive. Didn't even notice the Mine Train near Cinderella Castle.

 

[LSUfan4444]

You're never heard the screams from Tower of Terror?

 

[poppinspenguins]

They'd have to put up multiple, loud, obnoxious, outdoor roller coasters (like at Universal and Six Flags) for me not to go. Nothing like hearing people screaming and the rumble of the coaster while wandering through Hogsmeade (or anywhere else in the park). The only rumble I've heard at WDW from a coaster has been confined to the land that the coaster is in, and it's not too invasive. Didn't even notice the Mine Train near Cinderella Castle.

I can understand your point. I love how Disney has such a variety of experiences (i didnt even feel left out when pregnant!)

But I personally love the click clack of the roller coaster and the exuberance they bring to the atmosphere. But to each their own Now carnival games EVERYWHERE, Yuck.

 

[jtowntoflorida]

For us, it comes down to cost. When it stops becoming a vacation we enjoy more than others in the same price range, we will stop going. I can do Disney for about $4000 for a full week at a deluxe resort. A week at the beach that is driveable from my house costs me between $2000 - $3000. The difference is, the cost me of going to the beach for a week hasn't seen the same price increases that Disney has.

That being said, we are not a Disney only family. Yes, we go to Disney at least once a year, but we travel many other places and have a few on the books for upcoming years (Hawaii, Eastern Caribbean Cruise).

I would say the next logical step for us would be to dramatically cut down our time at Disney before we just stop going. Maybe a long weekend or a couple of days rather than two full weeks at different times of the year.

Similarly, it will come down to a cost-benefit analysis. Right now, we have a lot of fun on our Disney vacations, but our kids are also still young, to the point where a week long vacation with them in other locations won't feel so much like vacation because we'd need to keep them entertained. At Disney, they provide the entertainment for us! Once the kids are just a little older, though, I forsee us cutting back on Disney vacation time, because we do want to go other places on vacation. Right now, most/many of those destinations that we're eyeing just aren't feasible with a 4 and 8 year old, or will just be too challenging with kids those ages. Disney is still a sure bet for us...everyone is going to have fun, and we need to put forth minimal effort to do so.

 

[surferdave]

I can understand your point. I love how Disney has such a variety of experiences (i didnt even feel left out when pregnant!)

But I personally love the click clack of the roller coaster and the exuberance they bring to the atmosphere. But to each their own Now carnival games EVERYWHERE, Yuck.

Same here; virtually everything about roller coasters is appealing to me. I've never been fond of the prevalent opinion around here that coasters should be indoors or wrapped up in fake rock. My little girl is almost tall enough to get on most coasters now and I can't wait to go to more theme parks with roller coasters with her.

I'd much prefer traditional roller coasters to all the other standard midway rides, and I'm much more put off by WDW making a low rent carnival section in a park (like Dinoland or Storybook Circus) and calling it "theming".

 

[nancipants]

I'm a local, and I am extremely spoiled. The only way I'd stop going to Disney is if they stopped offering an annual pass ticket option, or if I moved. Which is why I never want to move.

 

[tsme]

It would probably be the cost that would stop us from going. It's crazy expensive & goes up each year. Though I don't like having to do so much planning now because of FP+ & I don't like having to keep checking my phone app during our trip, it won't stop us from going. Also, another thing that would stop us from going yearly would be if Disney started doing rides with only FP option to ride, like they did the test for eariler with Soarin & A&E. That would be a nightmare and a deal breaker.

 

[poppinspenguins]

It would probably be the cost that would stop us from going. It's crazy expensive & goes up each year. Though I don't like having to do so much planning now because of FP+ & I don't like having to keep checking my phone app during our trip, it won't stop us from going. Also, another thing that would stop us from going yearly would be if Disney started doing rides with only FP option to ride, like they did the test for eariler with Soarin & A&E. That would be a nightmare and a deal breaker.

Totally forgot about that!!! i think that would really be a deal breaker for us as well. Hopefully that was just a test, because full implementation of that would be awful.

 

[olwyngdh]

For me the line would be lack of ride maintance, lack of cleanliness, lack of general maintenance, things like that. Those are the reasons we don't go to 6 flags New England, even though it is only about a half hour from our house. I think we have been spoiled between going to disney and the years we lived near Busch gardens Williamsburg. Run down parks that think they are all that and a bag of chips are just not places I want to spend my time and money even if they do have new rides I figure by the end of the first season they will have suffered from the se poor maintance as the rest.

 

[Mrsjvb]

while we are not fanatics, our last trip was the straw that broke the camel's back. we spent close to ten grand between flights and the resort/parks( and this was WITH the super cheap military tickets

and quite frankly, were underwhelmed from start to finish. while FP+ didn't suck, it didn't make it easier or better.. we often found ourselves with not enough time to do something meaningful in between FP+ and ADRs but with too much time that was spent just wandering around bored

the CL staff at AKl were friendly but did less than nothing( to the point where they basically told me all they would do was hand me the phone to make my own spa appointment)

the DP was way to much food and we left with too many credits unused to have made the cost worthwhile

 

[disneyfantotheend]

if Disney started doing rides with only FP option to ride, like they did the test for eariler with Soarin & A&E. That would be a nightmare and a deal breaker.

I have to agree with this one too. Especially if they did it with a lot of attractions, and kept the limit at 3 FP+.

 

[LBIJim]

The original limit of 3 FP+ was my line in the sand. Glad they changed it.

Price is definitely a factor, but it hasn't reached that point yet.

I suppose different levels of in-park perks based on resort level would be a final straw. Or it would be if they continue to charge the same admission to the parks for everyone but give deluxe guests more FPs, extra hours, etc.

I don't have a problem with receiving more perks as long as the park admission prices vary as well.

 

[poppinspenguins]

For me the line would be lack of ride maintance, lack of cleanliness, lack of general maintenance, things like that. Those are the reasons we don't go to 6 flags New England, even though it is only about a half hour from our house. I think we have been spoiled between going to disney and the years we lived near Busch gardens Williamsburg. Run down parks that think they are all that and a bag of chips are just not places I want to spend my time and money even if they do have new rides I figure by the end of the first season they will have suffered from the se poor maintance as the rest.

My husband and I would always play a game of "find the weeds" in the landscaping (no, not THAT kind of weed). Totally lame disney nerd game, but we thought it was awesome that nothing was out of place.

On this last trip we stayed at all star sports and it was wonderfully kept. We decided to walk to the other all stars since we had never been there.

All star music had weeds everywhere and very overgrown hedges etc. We both commented on it. you get spoiled by such high standards that overgrown shrubs really bother you!!! it was just so odd that sports looked pristine and music was a mess.