What is up with giving up seats on the bus?

[Charlotte!]

I sense some hostility. Or is it just me?

 

[Buckeye Princess]

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should people waiting in line for a ride/attraction, let a lady go ahead, so she has less time on her feet waiting/ how about a woman holding a child in line? they are on their feet/ or an elderly person?

If you give up your place at every occasion, you will never have a place.

just like; should adults give up their places for the parades/illuninations for children? even if you "staked out that spot for a long time? (Just FYI, my answer is, your little kids can stand in front of me, your teens or you cannot)

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The examples of lines and parades are not really a good comparison. In those instances you are not talking about issues of safety. An adult can easily adjust his/her weight for most stops. However, a young child, adult carrying a child, pregnant woman, or elderly person is much less likely to be able to adjust to dynamic forces. So to those people who say that they deserve their seat because they waited for it. Take a look at that child/elderly adult/pregnant woman, and ask yourself if a sudden stop occurs, are you ok knowing that could have prevented a serious injury or even death? A woman I worked with was standing on a bus because no one would give up their seats. The bus had a sudden stop, and although everyone else was fine, due to her pregnancy her balance was off, she fell and she lost her baby.

 

[webstah]

The examples of lines and parades are not really a good comparison. In those instances you are not talking about issues of safety. An adult can easily adjust his/her weight for most stops. However, a young child, adult carrying a child, pregnant woman, or elderly person is much less likely to be able to adjust to dynamic forces. So to those people who say that they deserve their seat because they waited for it. Take a look at that child/elderly adult/pregnant woman, and ask yourself if a sudden stop occurs, are you ok knowing that could have prevented a serious injury or even death? A woman I worked with was standing on a bus because no one would give up their seats. The bus had a sudden stop, and although everyone else was fine, due to her pregnancy her balance was off, she fell and she lost her baby.

I knew a gentleman who gave up his seat on a bus, when the bus came to a sudden stop, he didn't fall, but did tear his rotator cuff, and had to have surgery.
This immoblized his arm for over 6 weeks, Since he was a self employed carpenter, he couldn't work, and they lost their house.

 

[ShannonMB]

Shame on you busriders, you should be renting cars instead. Oh no! another Disney Transport vs. Renting rant. :cool1

Just sayin'. Most of us will take our chances on getting a seat or having to stand. But if you *need* a seat, I mean really NEED a seat, then it's very foolish of you to think you are going to get through a whole trip to Disney using their transportation and have one every time.

 

[KellyNY]

How many times we had this thread already.

My 0.02, if you need a seat, rent a car. If you cannot afford it, wait for the next bus. I do not understand why to get on a bus when there are no seats with sleeping kids and expect someone to give you a seat. Seriously, it is just extra 10 min for another bus. Men just as tired as anyone else, it is Disney after all. And do not give me excuse that men should give their seats for women, way too crazy idea.

 

[newrygirl]

I have always taught my 2 sons, 16 and 13 to give up their seat on the bus to an older person or a parent with a child, wether that parent is male or female, if they are holding a child they get the seat. My kids do this without me asking as it is what they are taught. Now what really burns me is when both my kids get up for say a mother and child, they take the 2 seats my kids gave them and then when someone else gets on with a child, that mother that my boys gave a seat to just looks at the parent that got on and does nothing, someone gave a seat to you, how hard is it to put your 3 year old on your lap instead of her taking up a seat that we gave you so the new person can have a seat. I am glad I have talk my boys to respect their elders and do what is right, I have seen my 16 year old run back across a parking lot to hold the door to the shopping center open for a elderly person, what I find sad is 90% of the time he will not even get a thank you. Recently we were shopping at a grocery store and we saw a very elderly gentleman loading bags of salt pellents into his van, he had about 20 of them and they weigh about 40 pounds each, he was having a very hard time and so my son and I went over and offered to do it for him, he looked at us and asked quite rudely if we thought he was crippled and he could do it him-self, As a parent I find it hard to teach what is right when I find a lot of people don't appreciate it but I just tell my kids that for every 5 people that don't appreciate it there is 1 that does and that at the end of the day they can feel right for doing what was right.

 

[LilMommyBug]

Seriously, it is just extra 10 min for another bus. .

In a perfect world...

 

[KellyNY]

The examples of lines and parades are not really a good comparison. In those instances you are not talking about issues of safety. An adult can easily adjust his/her weight for most stops. However, a young child, adult carrying a child, pregnant woman, or elderly person is much less likely to be able to adjust to dynamic forces. So to those people who say that they deserve their seat because they waited for it. Take a look at that child/elderly adult/pregnant woman, and ask yourself if a sudden stop occurs, are you ok knowing that could have prevented a serious injury or even death? A woman I worked with was standing on a bus because no one would give up their seats. The bus had a sudden stop, and although everyone else was fine, due to her pregnancy her balance was off, she fell and she lost her baby.

So basically men should take their chances with sudden stops and protect someone else? If we talk about safety, what pregnant women, elderly, parents with kids do not know about sudden stops? Why they go on a standing bus in a first place?

 

[brerrabbit]

This is really a case by case situation and I don't think any "rules" apply. I was raised in the South and I will give up my seat, open doors, say sir and mame even though I am 50 years old. It's the way I was raised. But given all that my DW sometimes grabs my arm when I try to give up my seat. She does so because I have had three knee surgeries, and a heart attack. I am lucky because with the surgeries I can walk fine but by the end of the day the knees hurt and sometimes swell. I am lucky because the heart attack was minor and I am okay now with diet and medication. Even so when you look at me I don't look all that worse for wear so certain people would think me less than a gentleman for not giving up my seat. But consider this, since it's just DW and I on our trips of late we are not always in a hurry so if a bus fills up to standing room only, we wait for the next bus so that we can get a seat. We have actually waited for two busses on occasion. We intentionally avoid standing because of my knees. So before we publish rules and start judging others on their manners we need to consider all possibilities.

 

[KellyNY]

In a perfect world...

Even if longer, you just spend so many hours in park, what little waiting will change.

 

[Hannathy]

How many times we had this thread already.

My 0.02, if you need a seat, rent a car. If you cannot afford it, wait for the next bus. I do not understand why to get on a bus when there are no seats with sleeping kids and expect someone to give you a seat. Seriously, it is just extra 10 min for another bus. Men just as tired as anyone else, it is Disney after all. And do not give me excuse that men should give their seats for women, way too crazy idea.

Exactly! Especially the last line. Which is why I won't teach my son to just give up a seat for any woman. The idea of men giving seats to women was because they were considered TOO WEAK and FRAIL to stand and the big strong men had to provide and protect them. Sorry isn't true anymore. Sorry women but you can't have it both ways. Are you equal or are you frail and weak. As a MOm to both genders and being old enough to be around when women weren't allowed to do things just cause they were women i'm not going backwards. I have very polite children and we are actually considerate to a fault about everything but giving up seats just because of gender or because you just expect it. (and poor planning)

 

[LVSWL]

My two teenage sons & my DH & me all give up our seats if we see someone who needs it. Common courtesy

 

[grumpeeduck]

What does the couple being childless have to do with it?

"childless" meaning NO CHILDREN WERE SITTING WITH THEM......DUH

Maybe, try NOT jumping to conclusions?

 

[grumpeeduck]

Did you ask them to move? Sometime people aren inconsiderate, maybe they just figured since you didnt ask, they didnt need to move. Now yes, lots of people would have just moved automatically; but no everyone was raised the same way. If you dont ask for the person to slide over or move their feet, than dont be upset cause they dont. If you want to sit, ask nicely for them to scootch over.

Um, no that would have made US rude.......................

 

[grumpeeduck]

Or even better, if there was room for the couple to slide down, why didn't the PPs family sit on the other side instead of expecting them to move?

So, you would have us climb over their legs??? I don't think so.

 

[si-am]

"childless" meaning NO CHILDREN WERE SITTING WITH THEM......DUH

Maybe, try NOT jumping to conclusions?

I asked why you thought it was relevant. I didn't jump to any conclusions.... DUH.

 

[danielle.st]

So, you would have us climb over their legs??? I don't think so.

You just say "Excuse me, can we get in there? Thanks" and smile.
It's not rude at all if there is room there.

 

[JUS915]

So, you would have us climb over their legs??? I don't think so.

Seriously. There was room but you didn't want to say excuse me so you could slide by and you're complaining that they wouldn't move. If there was room and someone was standing, I would assume that they wanted to stand. Not that they were too scared to say excuse me.

 

[TLinden16]

It's time to close this thread now.

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