What do you think will the next big MK refurb?

Do we think the show building for stitch and laugh floor will be gutted and replaced for just given a new IP overlay? If thy do that, add the Tron coaster, updated carousel, buzz and speedway, then they're pretty much sorted
 
Do we think the show building for stitch and laugh floor will be gutted and replaced for just given a new IP overlay? If thy do that, add the Tron coaster, updated carousel, buzz and speedway, then they're pretty much sorted

You do realize you just mentioned pretty much every attraction in Tommorowland other than PeopleMover and Rockets? And PeopleMover would probably need updating if you changed stitch, laugh, carousel, buzz and SM since it shares some infrastructure. The sad thing is I completely agree. The vast majority of Tommorowland is a problem in one way or another. I just don't think it's as much a problem as say... FutureWorld. At least in MK the buildings aren't empty. Uggh... to much to do, and there is no way they are going to spend the resources to do it anytime soon.

My guess is, if you get Tron and a Speedway overhaul you eventually get a SM refurb. Stitch simply closes, CoP and Laugh and Buzz stay put for a really long time. If you don't get Tron, you might get a Stitch replacement, COP update and maybe a Laugh replacement, though I doubt it. They slap some more bandaids on SM and don't touch Buzz and hope it holds together.

It's kind of an either/or situation over say a 10 year horizon.
 
You do realize you just mentioned pretty much every attraction in Tommorowland other than PeopleMover and Rockets? And PeopleMover would probably need updating if you changed stitch, laugh, carousel, buzz and SM since it shares some infrastructure. The sad thing is I completely agree. The vast majority of Tommorowland is a problem in one way or another. I just don't think it's as much a problem as say... FutureWorld. At least in MK the buildings aren't empty. Uggh... to much to do, and there is no way they are going to spend the resources to do it anytime soon.

My guess is, if you get Tron and a Speedway overhaul you eventually get a SM refurb. Stitch simply closes, CoP and Laugh and Buzz stay put for a really long time. If you don't get Tron, you might get a Stitch replacement, COP update and maybe a Laugh replacement, though I doubt it. They slap some more bandaids on SM and don't touch Buzz and hope it holds together.

It's kind of an either/or situation over say a 10 year horizon.

This was really depressing to read and realize you are correct. I also think it's another reason not to put Tron in Tomorrowland. That's already going to make the area hugely popular. It wouldn't make sense for MK's next 2-4 rides to all be in Tomorrowland. I'd much rather see Adventureland/Frontierland get a new E-ticket (preferably non IP based) and Tomorrowland get 2-3 nice C/D ticket fixes.
 
This was really depressing to read and realize you are correct. I also think it's another reason not to put Tron in Tomorrowland. That's already going to make the area hugely popular. It wouldn't make sense for MK's next 2-4 rides to all be in Tomorrowland. I'd much rather see Adventureland/Frontierland get a new E-ticket (preferably non IP based) and Tomorrowland get 2-3 nice C/D ticket fixes.

Yep. It's why I think most people around here are going to be severely disappointed with the concrete information that actually comes out of D23. You simply aren't going to completely gut Tomorrowland. You aren't going to announce an entire redo of Futureworld. And you aren't going to do those and announce more projects in MK, AK or DHS. They may all be on the drawing board. In fact, they all NEED to be on the drawing board, but you are looking at 10-20 years worth of projects just in our current rumors.

Heck, simply adding Tron and redoing Speedway is a 3 year plus event. You aren't going to close SM while that is going on, so that puts a SM refurb sometime out in the 2021-2023. Are you really going to have SM closed during the 50th? No. So with Tron, a refurb of Space couldn't even start until 2024 or 2025. Similarly you aren't going to close Buzz while all this is going on, especially if Speedway is closed, so that puts a major Buzz refurb when? A decade from now? Stitch is essentially closed. While Stitch is in limbo are you really going to take down CoP or Laugh, or both? Maybe for a CoP last scene redo, six months or so to redecorate a room sounds about right for Disney. But Laugh isn't going to sit empty when Stitich is as well. So when Stitch has a solid plan and maybe reopens by the 2020 to 2022 window, then the 50th gets in the way again. Pushing a changeover for Laugh into that 2024+ window. And short of an emergency, without another big people eater, you can't simply close SM for a huge refurb or makeover.

What I think you might see is Tron/Speedway by the 50th and something on the other side of the Park in Adventureland. Or maybe Stitch/Speedway plus Adventureland. But the rest of Tommorrowland? Think a decade out at least, meaning you aren't going to hear squat at this D23, the next D23 or even the one after.

The same goes for EPCOT. If GotG is going into Energy, you aren't going to close Imagination. In theory you could work on Energy, WoL and Innoventions all at the same time, since 2 of 3 are closed, but you can't close another Pavilion regardless of how empty Energy usually is. Especially with work on Mission:Space ongoing. You certainly can't close Nemo or SE.

I'm still skeptical TGMR is closing this fall. I get it, I really do. You want it all open come 2019's massive influx. But that park has so little to do right now taking one more attraction down is just rubbing a $100 ticket in the face of the guests. It's almost at Six Flags status right now with how little quality stuff there is to do. Once TSL opens, sure, take it down and work like the devil. But that isn't Disney's MO, is it?
 

By a ton of reports TL is about to really, really change. Tron to TL is as locked as I have ever seen it, post Disney actually announcing it. I have 6 insiders I really trust stating it. I will add, with the add of TRON, you get a revamp of some kind for Speedway to tie it into the "look", also some other changes will be coming. One additional rumor has it that once TRON is done, SM may go down and be refurbished to what it needs to be...but that hasn't been as confirmed as TRON has.

All say this move will make as much change in TL as Splash Mountain did to Frontierland.
 
Love all this... it will make others happy. My wife and I are a bit old.... I used to ride the "cars" a good 50 yeas ago in Disneyland :).
Coasters? Nope.... not for us. But this change will be very GOOD for others :).
 














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