What do you think of Miley Cyrus' new video - Party in the USA?

[BreTyPres87]

In most cases, I agree that what society thinks does not matter. However, we wouldn't say it's okay to smoke a joint because nobody should care. Certain things do follow us throughout life. I know of girls who dressed suggestively in high school and college and could not shake that image later in life. Most of the kids who tease others are the ones dressing and behaving like that anyway, IMO. If we want girls to pursue a career, etc., we should encourage them to dress appropriately. We wouldn't go to an interview like that, so obviously we do care what society thinks in some cases....

I agree somewhat but then we should teach our children that there is a time and place for everything When necessary we do need to follow the norms of society especially in certain settings that require it if someone's not teaching their daughter its not okay to go to a job interview in short shorts and a tank top theres a deeper problem, and I actually did see someone come to my previous job dressed like that in pursuit of a job, needless to say she was not hired!
but in social situations a person needs to be themselves not who society wants them to be so if they want to dress the way they think is appealing it should not matter what anyone else thinks and they should have the confidence in themselves and control over the situations that they get themselves into to avoid problems from others who may try to take them in the wrong direction based simply on the way they are dressed (does this make any sense? its 1 am here )
Also, theres a difference between telling a teenage girl not to worry about society when it comes to her clothes and who she is and illegal activity like drugs and underage drinking..
I also think that we should be teaching our children that entertainers are not role models, how many times do people have to say "she/he was supposed to be a role model!" they're not role models they make music and movies, lets teach our children that doctors, lawyers, politicians (no flaming!), businesspeople, charity workers are role models based on their accomplishments and contributions to society.

 

[amy_225]

I agree somewhat but then we should teach our children that there is a time and place for everything When necessary we do need to follow the norms of society especially in certain settings that require it if someone's not teaching their daughter its not okay to go to a job interview in short shorts and a tank top theres a deeper problem, and I actually did see someone come to my previous job dressed like that in pursuit of a job, needless to say she was not hired!
but in social situations a person needs to be themselves not who society wants them to be so if they want to dress the way they think is appealing it should not matter what anyone else thinks and they should have the confidence in themselves and control over the situations that they get themselves into to avoid problems from others who may try to take them in the wrong direction based simply on the way they are dressed (does this make any sense? its 1 am here )
Also, theres a difference between telling a teenage girl not to worry about society when it comes to her clothes and who she is and illegal activity like drugs and underage drinking..
I also think that we should be teaching our children that entertainers are not role models, how many times do people have to say "she/he was supposed to be a role model!" they're not role models they make music and movies, lets teach our children that doctors, lawyers, politicians (no flaming!), businesspeople, charity workers are role models based on their accomplishments and contributions to society.

I do agree with most of what you are saying, and I won't post again since it's not my intention to start a riot
The only point I was trying to make was, though I agree that a girl "should" be able to wear what she wants and not be judged by it, it's unreasonable to expect that will happen - at least not in this lifetime probably, lol. I notice that younger and younger girls are dressing like the role models we give them.
Does Miley have a right to dress that way? Absolutely. Should that make it okay for a 12 year old to dress that way? Well, at least in my opinion, no. So we as parents should be the responsible ones and tell our girls what people think when we dress/behave a certain way, and then ask them, "Is that how you want people to perceive you?" If the answer is no, help them find fun, fashionable ways to express their individuality without showing so much butt or chest. Okay, 'nuff said

 

[SnootyBear]

I think however you raise your child is your choice. What I find funny about this thread, and all the other one's like it on the DIS, is that so many think their opinion is the right one, and argue their point, turn around and say okay Ill agree to disagree, but then come back to argue some more. Either you agree to disagree or you want someone to validate your opinion as being the right one.

I cant imagine why people cant just state their opinion and move on. Why come back and fight with half a dozen people who dont agree with you, and try to force them to see the "light" so to speak.

Amazing.

 

[JUJU814]

I don't think anyone's calling her a hooker, shank or tramp. People are saying she is dressing and acting like one. Let's face reality here. Whether we like it or not, people judge us based on our behaviors and our dress code. I didn't make those rules, that's just the way the world is. Isn't anyone concerned anymore about the sexuality/sensuality that's being portrayed as "normal", "okay", and "in style" for little girls? She's not a kid, but she is a minor still! Is it okay for her to dress in such a way, jive her hips in such a way as to garner the attention of - gasp - dirty old men??? This is life, this is reality, people! We may not like it! We may believe girls should have the right to dress any way they like and still be respected for who they are and not judged for what they wear. I AGREE! But it's not realistic! If you dress like that, men WILL think that you're "loose", "easy", however you want to put it.
Let's teach our daughters that they are MORE than the way they look! How about teaching them modesty? How about teaching them to focus on their minds instead of their bodies? Do we honestly want men and boys attracted to them for the way they dress? What about respecting a girl for what she has to offer the world other than sexuality? I think instead of everyone defending the way she looks and how "normal" it is, we should use this as a lesson to our girls about why we don't want to dress/behave that way. There is a difference between a dance recital, ballet, and basically pole dancing on a playground. If those of you who are defending this type of behavior can't see that difference, there is nothing I could say that will make you change your minds. But it's never been okay. Was it around when I was a teenager? Sure it was! Was it okay then? No! Did I hear boys talking about what they wanted to do with girls they saw dressed like that??? YES!!! My 15 year old son watched the video and was transfixed. He said, "I don't care about the music at all, but she is SO hot!" Does that tell you anything?

My sentiments exactly!!

 

[luvmy3]

Footloose was in the TV listings last night, it made me think of this thread

 

[maxiesmom]

I find it interesting that if people don't agree they start going on the offensive.

It is okay to disagree and leave it at that.

I have to say I find it hugely offensive, and very inappropriate for someone to call a teenager a tramp, or say that she is acting like a hooker.

 

[maxiesmom]

Let's teach our daughters that they are MORE than the way they look! How about teaching them modesty? How about teaching them to focus on their minds instead of their bodies? Do we honestly want men and boys attracted to them for the way they dress? What about respecting a girl for what she has to offer the world other than sexuality? I think instead of everyone defending the way she looks and how "normal" it is, we should use this as a lesson to our girls about why we don't want to dress/behave that way. There is a difference between a dance recital, ballet, and basically pole dancing on a playground. If those of you who are defending this type of behavior can't see that difference, there is nothing I could say that will make you change your minds. But it's never been okay. Was it around when I was a teenager? Sure it was! Was it okay then? No! Did I hear boys talking about what they wanted to do with girls they saw dressed like that??? YES!!! My 15 year old son watched the video and was transfixed. He said, "I don't care about the music at all, but she is SO hot!" Does that tell you anything?

And none of us females watch guys because we think they are hot?

 

[mjkacmom]

In most cases, I agree that what society thinks does not matter. However, we wouldn't say it's okay to smoke a joint because nobody should care. Certain things do follow us throughout life. I know of girls who dressed suggestively in high school and college and could not shake that image later in life. Most of the kids who tease others are the ones dressing and behaving like that anyway, IMO. If we want girls to pursue a career, etc., we should encourage them to dress appropriately. We wouldn't go to an interview like that, so obviously we do care what society thinks in some cases....

Maybe she should've worn a business suit? She was dressed for a rock concert, not a tea party. Look at any and every single music video - do people dress like that on the street? No - it's a performance, and she was dressed to perform. This is the career she's going for, not a corporate attorney. I'm pretty sure that, after the concert, she put her normal clothes back on.

 

[momx2]

I have to say I find it hugely offensive, and very inappropriate for someone to call a teenager a tramp, or say that she is acting like a hooker.

ITA!

 

[BreTyPres87]

And none of us females watch guys because we think they are hot?

Thats my main reason for watching MTV!!

 

[maxiesmom]

I just went and watched the video again, and there is not a single pole dance in it. Honestly, I think many people are just offended that the girl is growing up, and don't like it.

I would also like to know how so many of you are able to dance without shaking your hips a little. All she does is turn her hips from side to side a bit. Maybe she should have done the old fashioned white girl dance and just hopped in place?

 

[BreTyPres87]

I just went and watched the video again, and there is not a single pole dance in it. Honestly, I think many people are just offended that the girl is growing up, and don't like it.

I would also like to know how so many of you are able to dance without shaking your hips a little. All she does is turn her hips from side to side a bit. Maybe she should have done the old fashioned white girl dance and just hopped in place?

I agree and this is an age old thing famous people are humans and celebrities *especially child stars* needs to be able to grow into the people they want not be role models, I think that instead of worrying about how our child's role models have disappointed them by making a decision about their career and life we should focus on being role models for our children more by being the image of what we want from them.. Miley Cyrus is not responsible for forming our children into "appropriate" adults she makes music and movies!!

 

[amy_225]

And none of us females watch guys because we think they are hot?

Well, hopefully not teenage guys....

 

[MissyDVC]

I have to say I find it hugely offensive, and very inappropriate for someone to call a teenager a tramp, or say that she is acting like a hooker.

 

[Becky2005]

Well, hopefully not teenage guys....

Are those guys in Twilight of legal age? I really don't know but there seems to be an awful lot of adult females drooling over them. Not like they aren't promoting them everywhere or anything.

 

[Shannalee724]

My problem isn't with Miley or this video necessarily. It is with this particular style. We ran into so many girls at Six Flags this weekend running around in these rediculously short shorts and boots. With layered shirts over bras hanging out. I think that look is NOT appropriate. It is trashy and slutty. You can be sexy and show the curves of your body without dressing like a tramp. JMHO

 

[mjkacmom]

My problem isn't with Miley or this video necessarily. It is with this particular style. We ran into so many girls at Six Flags this weekend running around in these rediculously short shorts and boots. With layered shirts over bras hanging out. I think that look is NOT appropriate. It is trashy and slutty. You can be sexy and show the curves of your body without dressing like a tramp. JMHO

While dd13 doesn't wear boots with shorts, if it was/is the new fashion trend, I'd have no problem with it. She and her friend wear the layered tanks with the bra straps showing, and it doesn't bother me, since this is the trend, at least here. It's a piece of material, not flesh. Sure, back in my day, we'd never show our bra strap. 100 years ago, women didn't even show their ankles!

 

[bdiddy]

I think some people just forget what it is like to be a teenager and what fashion/pop culture was like when they were young. It's like some people become parents and become completely blinded to how things are.

Does that mean that you have to approve and let your kids dress like that, watch the videos, etc...?

Absolutely not.


But it just shows that when people call teens trashy for the way they are dressing in a MUSIC VIDEO - how out of touch with teens and society they really are and it just makes them sound like a crotchety old man/woman.

 

[Hannathy]

While dd13 doesn't wear boots with shorts, if it was/is the new fashion trend, I'd have no problem with it. She and her friend wear the layered tanks with the bra straps showing, and it doesn't bother me, since this is the trend, at least here. It's a piece of material, not flesh. Sure, back in my day, we'd never show our bra strap. 100 years ago, women didn't even show their ankles!

ITA. My DD 17 and her friends don't wear the boots with shorts but they wear short shorts, layered tanks and some show the bra straps. My DD likes shoes so she has a few that some on here would call trashy but there her fun expression of who she is. She isn't trashy far from it, in fact I call her and her friends prudes because they actually are a lot more "wholesome" than i was at their ages! They are all top students, she goes to the university in the afternoon because she has topped out in the science and english classes at her HS, varsity athletes, Youth symphony musicians, etc. What you wear doesn't make what you are. Would they dress like this at a science competition or orchestra concert? of course not.They know when it is OK and when it isn't. Just like Miley I'm sure. It was a production. Designed to grab your attention.

When I was her age we didn't wear bras and jeans so tight you had to lay down to zip them. And a lot more drinking, drugs and from what I can tell making out. I'll take the bras showing, at least they have them on!

 

[Momvic5]

I am disappointed in Miley's video and in Disney's decision to play it. I would be totally fine with the video if it was on any other channel. I just don't like it on the Disney channel. I hold Disney to a different standard. If she is trying to attract an older audience then she needs to break away from Hannah Montana and Disney. She may be 17, but she is not your typical 17yr old girl. She has taken on a responsibility that most 17yr old girls do not have - she has thousands of young girls (8-12yr olds) who admire her and copy her every move. If she is old enough to handle the attention that shorty shorts and bra revealing shirts may get her, then she is old enough to understand the significance of her responsibility to her younger fan base. Let's face it, her fans are nowhere near 17yrs of age, and they are the ones who keep her moving forward. Shorty shorts and bra revealing shirts may be considered appropriate for her peers, but it is not appropriate for her fans who are much younger. I think both Miley and Disney need to remember who they are entertaining and what is appropriate for that particular audience. I don't blame Miley for wanting to attract an older audience. I just think she needs to remember her responsibility to her fans in the process.