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I am talking about a young(21) male family member.

This young man is learning disabled and to be quite honest just doesn't have any common sense.

His grandfather bought him a used truck early in the year and grandfather has paid for most but not all of the repairs on the truck since then. We are talking major repairs also, new transmission, tires, etc. He does do little odd jobs here and there for grandfather but not nearly enough to cover the cost of repairs.

Grandpa also lets him "work", yard work or sweeping the shop when he needs money here or there to get him by.

He has a hard time finding employment and keeping it. He quit a job at Tractor Supply earlier in the year because he didn't like a new manager, he then went back to work at Brookshires for like the 3rd time. He spent 3 days in produce before management moved him to unloading trucks, which management moved him out of again almost immediately to Sacker. He spent just a few weeks as Sacker before a manager asked him to take a week off because he seemed to be getting too frustrated. He told the manager he couldn't afford a week off and was not frustrated, so when the manager insisted he take a week off, he instead quit. This was all his words as he described what happened.

He has also spent most of this year moving between a few different homes. He moved out of relative "A" house because they weren't paying bills and partying instead. He sometimes goes to spend 2-3 days there though. He lives with the friend of relative "B" most of the time but comes and goes from there also. He spends 2-3 days or weekends with other relatives or friends whenever he wants.

He has a huge duffle bag that he keeps ALL his clothes in, that he usually keeps in his truck with him. This started because he went off to party with a friend for a few days and does this every so often.

Well, this last week, a family member called and asked him to come over immediately. He jumped in the truck and left. He had been trying to save on gas lately and had been riding with his tailgate down.

Yep, you probably guessed it, his duffle bag of clothes is now gone. It fell off the truck. He did retrace his steps but couldn't find it. He has no clothes now.

His grandfather bought him 3 pairs of jeans immediately and he did have about 3 t-shirts but that's it. He lost 3 pairs of boots, belts, ALL his clothes. He likes to dress Western which is not cheap. His shirts can run up to $60 - $80 each.

So some of the family is pressuring us and other family to buy him clothes for Christmas. This is not what we had planned. DH and I both feel that if we help replace the clothes we aren't teaching him any responsibility. DH says he needs to quit living this "Gypsy" lifestyle.

What do you think and what would you do? If you have any questions please just ask. I am sorry this post was so long, I tried to give as much info. as possible.
 
Were you planning on buying him gifts in the first place? If so, I would buy maybe one thing. If you weren't then I wouldn't buy him anything. He clearly needs to be more responsible.
 
You aren't going to teach him to be responsible by chosing not to buy him clothes, either. The best thing you can do is to help him get some life skills.
 
If you were going to get him a gift, then I say yes, buy him an article of clothing . If you don't exchange gifts with him... he's on his own.
 

Unnnn, its Christmas

buy him what he wants and needs and what you can afford.

(plus a new duffel bag with a leash to tie it to the truck?)

you aren't going to get him to change his lifestyle over a gift.
 
We were planning on buying him a small tool set, not too much, but a little something and then maybe a few other small things.

Life skills, shortly after he graduated high school we worked with him and helped him go through DARS(Dept. of Rehab something). They tested him and were going to pay for his college because of his disability. But unfortunately certain family members didn't think it was a good idea for him to go two hours away to college and talked him out of it.

He is also somewhat in denial about his abilities or lack of.
 
I think maybe buying him clothing instead of what you were going to buy is a good idea.

My dh dresses western too and you are right it can be expensive. Try shepplers.com, I just bought dh some wrangler jeans there that were quite a bit cheaper than I can get them at any local western store.
 
I would get the tools, pants and a dress shirt. The tools may come in handy when looking for a new job. The new clothes will come in handy when interviewing for a new job.
 
We were planning on buying him a small tool set, not too much, but a little something and then maybe a few other small things.

Life skills, shortly after he graduated high school we worked with him and helped him go through DARS(Dept. of Rehab something). They tested him and were going to pay for his college because of his disability. But unfortunately certain family members didn't think it was a good idea for him to go two hours away to college and talked him out of it.

He is also somewhat in denial about his abilities or lack of.

I think I know exactly what you are talking about. I have a brother who is married and has three kids. He works two jobs, 15 hours a day but he never seems to get ahead. Although he does work hard he changes jobs often and it is usually because the boss did this or the boss did that. He rarely accepts responsibility for his own shortcomings. He also had very serious problems in school that I believe were as a result of a learning disability. Had he been a student in the last ten years he would have had the help he needed, but thirty years ago he was just considered stupid. He is actually very smart in many ways but his common sense comes and goes. I hope your young relative has more opportunities to get help than my brother had. Please don't give up on him. Encourage him to make better choices and offer to help him do "grown-up" things like manage a checking account, build a budget, maintain a job, etc. Maybe if he knows that someone doesn't think he is a total screw-up he will try harder.
 
I would get the tools, pants and a dress shirt. The tools may come in handy when looking for a new job. The new clothes will come in handy when interviewing for a new job.

I think this is a great idea.
 
We were planning on buying him a small tool set, not too much, but a little something and then maybe a few other small things.

Life skills, shortly after he graduated high school we worked with him and helped him go through DARS(Dept. of Rehab something). They tested him and were going to pay for his college because of his disability. But unfortunately certain family members didn't think it was a good idea for him to go two hours away to college and talked him out of it.

He is also somewhat in denial about his abilities or lack of.

Maybe you could get him a storage trunk for the bed of his truck, that way he can carry the duffle there.
 
What gift you do or do not purchase this young man is not going to make him change his lifestyle.

He sounds like a sad soul with issues. There are people in the world who are sad souls.

Only you can decide what you choose to do for this young man. What do you want to do?
 
If you were going to get him a gift anyway, I would get him some clothes.
 
From your post, I'd say that you sound pretty frustrated at how this relative gets away with being irresponsible and how other family members enable him. I can understand that. But, I also believe that we should help those close to us who need the help. It doesn't sound like this family member is going to get much more responsible anytime soon. And having him do without any clothes probably won't teach him any lessons.

Since you were already planning to get him something, I'd recommend getting him whatever you think he NEEDS most. I wouldn't spend $80 for a shirt for myself and I definitely wouldn't spend that much on one item for a relative who has nothing, not even clothes. I'd spend the amount of $$$ you had already budgeted and I wouldn't worry about trying to do full replacement of any pricier items that may have been lost... so maybe a pair of moderately-priced jeans and/or a moderately-priced shirt and some underwear or socks.

BTW, I have an uncle who was pretty much as you describe when he was younger. In his 50s, he still makes some bad decisions and doesn't have a great sense of responsibility. He won't ever hold down a great job or be able to handle finances wisely. He IS a hard worker, though, and lives with his elderly Mom, helping to take care of her. His sisters and brothers do help him out occasionally with $$ or with things he needs.
 


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