What do you do with people that cut in line to meet up with group?

[Wadecool]

1) It seems almost ridiculous to me that anybody would invest that kind of time and effort into making sure nobody can get past them in line. What a waste of personal energy when you are on vacation.

2) But my original post was ASKING all the tough guys who claim they don't let ppl pass them...just how far would they go to stop someone? Would they hold out their arms, stand real wide, grab the railings, lock arms with their family, start screaming for a cm? KEEPING IN MIND THAT YOU CANNOT GRAB SOMEONE OR TRY TO PHYSICALLY RESTRAIN THEM BECAUSE THAT WOULD GET YOU THROWN IN JAIL.

1) As ridiculous as you investing all that time and effort to cut in line?

2) Since you asked, here's how it would happen with me. I'm 6'7" 350lbs and usually brace my arms across both railings while we move through the que so it's pretty easy to keep you or anyone else contained behind me. In your previous posts, you don't exhibit a particularly strong understanding of how physical assault works, so I'll break it down for you. If I'm standing there as described previously minding my own business, you cannot pass by without becoming the aggressor yourself. Now, if you want to scale the railings, crawl on your hands and knees to get around me, then have at it. Short of that or your climbing this mountain, you won't be passing through. I don't need to "restrain" you or put my hands on you to stop you, since two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time, and I would be there first.

 

[jkstewart1800]

I have only come across this situation a handful of times, and I have never said anything because it always catches me off guard. There are only two outcomes of saying something. 1) the person/people back down or 2) (and this is more probable) they start yelling at you, saying that you don't know what you are talking about, that you can't tell them what to do....etc etc

So I agree that a CM should be 'called over'... but how realistic is that. Most SB lines are SO long (think POTC and SM even BTMRR) that you wouldn't even be able to 'flag a CM' until you get to the front and by that time the people are long gone....

So really - what can you do? (not counting the bar bouncer dads)

 

[kytoo]

I understand Disneyland is supposed to be the Happiest Place on Earth and in an effort to keep it that way I think Disney should post a sign at the beginning of rides stating that you should have all the members of your party with you before entering the queue. After that line should be the line that states that violating that could see you evicted from the queue or even the park. This would be a sign that CM's could point out if it ever became an issue and therefore making their job just a little bit easier.

Now I am not talking about families or individuals with emergencies or kiddy potty breaks(our family always make sure we have gone to the restroom when we know we are going to be in a long line btw), but I am talking about kids who go on California Screamin while mommy holds a place in TSM and then 15 teenagers join her in line. Happens every time I am there. Admittedly the "fluid" line chains and spaces open to the public on the side of this line make it much easier for them to do this. Perhaps Disney could look at sealing this "leak" somehow. The point I am talking about is about 10-15 mins from the front and is bothersome to those that have been in the line already 45 mins.

Also now that Cars Land is open there are more issues. Here we also have the groups of teenage girls that move up in the line to catch up to their family(groups of approximately 8-10 girls). Cmon....really?
The FP line is long but moves quickly and for those guests that bypass it and go straight to the line I think it is insulting that all FP getters join their family in the line afterwards. If everyone getting the FP's did that it would extend the wait line by hundreds in minutes. I am really disgusted that people think they are more important than the next person. I delegated myself the FP getting for the Racers ride and I wait patiently for my family by the gate, every time, and go on the ride later in the day with virtually no wait time.

Another thing is that if you have been to Cars Land you may have noticed that the person doing FP and single rider delegation is looking one way and behind her back (because there is no rope or chain to separate them) single riders (who are really groups of people who dont want to wait up to 2 hours) do not enter the single rider line but sneak into the regular line. I pointed this out to one cast member and she said...oh really...and that was that????? Too bad for all the hot bothered tired people who waited 2 hours for their turn. How about you put a chain up there Disney...to keep the single riders in the single rider line.

I am sorry to be a whiner about all this but my experience is that if one person sees someone doing it, they may think to themselves if they can do it why not me next time and it is one big SNOWBALL EFFECT. If we all just sit back and say and do nothing then one day this will just be like all local theme parks that get nasty and have brawls. I would much rather a few simple rules were implemented for "real line cutters", enforced and then it would really stay the "Happiest Place on Earth".

 

[maxiesmom]

Even for adults and teens, if they legitimately have someone waiting in line for them, why not let them thru? Call me crazy, but i really dont think its a big deal.

How about that family gets in line and waits in line together? As most people learn to do when they are small children? Most of the queues are not easy to move thru when people are already in them. You have to push and shove and squish to get by whoever is already in line. What about that seems ok?

All it says is that the people who don't wait in line think they are better than those who do, and that they are so important they shouldn't have to waste their time waiting in line. How can pushing past people who are waiting be anything but rude?

Would I make a big deal about anyone pushing past me? No. Would I think they are rude jerks? Yes.

 

[MikeOhio]

It's annoying but what are you gong to do grab them? It's not worth getting bothered my and will only add seconds to your wait

 

[minnie mum]

I understand Disneyland is supposed to be the Happiest Place on Earth and in an effort to keep it that way I think Disney should post a sign at the beginning of rides stating that you should have all the members of your party with you before entering the queue. After that line should be the line that states that violating that could see you evicted from the queue or even the park. This would be a sign that CM's could point out if it ever became an issue and therefore making their job just a little bit easier.

Now I am not talking about families or individuals with emergencies or kiddy potty breaks(our family always make sure we have gone to the restroom when we know we are going to be in a long line btw), but I am talking about kids who go on California Screamin while mommy holds a place in TSM and then 15 teenagers join her in line. Happens every time I am there. Admittedly the "fluid" line chains and spaces open to the public on the side of this line make it much easier for them to do this. Perhaps Disney could look at sealing this "leak" somehow. The point I am talking about is about 10-15 mins from the front and is bothersome to those that have been in the line already 45 mins.

Also now that Cars Land is open there are more issues. Here we also have the groups of teenage girls that move up in the line to catch up to their family(groups of approximately 8-10 girls). Cmon....really?
The FP line is long but moves quickly and for those guests that bypass it and go straight to the line I think it is insulting that all FP getters join their family in the line afterwards. If everyone getting the FP's did that it would extend the wait line by hundreds in minutes. I am really disgusted that people think they are more important than the next person. I delegated myself the FP getting for the Racers ride and I wait patiently for my family by the gate, every time, and go on the ride later in the day with virtually no wait time.

Another thing is that if you have been to Cars Land you may have noticed that the person doing FP and single rider delegation is looking one way and behind her back (because there is no rope or chain to separate them) single riders (who are really groups of people who dont want to wait up to 2 hours) do not enter the single rider line but sneak into the regular line. I pointed this out to one cast member and she said...oh really...and that was that????? Too bad for all the hot bothered tired people who waited 2 hours for their turn. How about you put a chain up there Disney...to keep the single riders in the single rider line.

I am sorry to be a whiner about all this but my experience is that if one person sees someone doing it, they may think to themselves if they can do it why not me next time and it is one big SNOWBALL EFFECT. If we all just sit back and say and do nothing then one day this will just be like all local theme parks that get nasty and have brawls. I would much rather a few simple rules were implemented for "real line cutters", enforced and then it would really stay the "Happiest Place on Earth".

First of all:
Next: Did you realize that this is a DisneyWORLD forum? I notice that your references are all to Disneyland. There is a separate forum for it (look at the black tabs at the top of the page. I realize that line cutting cuts across geography, but just in case.....

 

[20yBWDW]

I am surprised at the number of people who think it's okay for one person to hold multiple spaces in line. How does your line holder alert others that he is actually taking up 3, 4, 5 spots on the ride so that they can properly assess the line before deciding to wait? Does he notify the people who put up the standby times?

One person can hold one spot. I have no issue with a dad getting in line for a princess, then giving that spot to his daughter, for example. but if one person is in line, and four people ride, then three people are clearly line jumpers, and are in violation of the rules of the park.

People who leave the line to use the restroom and return, I have no problem with and always let through with a smile. Personally, if I am in line with DH and two kids at our local amusement park, and one kid has to use the restroom, we get out, and get back in at the end of the line. We are perfectly capable of riding as a twosome and meeting up with the rest of the family at the end of the ride. Maybe my opinion on that will be different at WDW. When it comes to other people, I do give the benefit of the doubt and have no problems letting someone back through who has been in line. I would notify a CM if a group, especially a group containing more people than can sit together on the ride, push their way through the line with any excuse.

 

[ex007]

LOL - Wow, this thread cracks me up. Seriously, can't imagine being that stressed about someone wanting to rejoin their family. I've never had anyone question me when I've asked to rejoin my DW and DD nor have I ever objected to anyone else moving up to be with their family. Probably helps that we always go in the fall or January when there are fewer people in the park. There are far more important things in life that to worry about someone "cutting" in line for BTMRR.

 

[maxiesmom]

LOL - Wow, this thread cracks me up. Seriously, can't imagine being that stressed about someone wanting to rejoin their family. I've never had anyone question me when I've asked to rejoin my DW and DD nor have I ever objected to anyone else moving up to be with their family. Probably helps that we always go in the fall or January when there are fewer people in the park. There are far more important things in life that to worry about someone "cutting" in line for BTMRR.

Of course there are more important things to worry about. But you know how people say that common courtesy isn't that common anymore? This is a perfect example of that. How does the thought process in someone's brain that "Gee, all these other people are in line, waiting their turn. Think I will just shove by them all. Waiting is for everyone but me!"?

Pretty pathetic.

 

[KellyNY]

LOL - Wow, this thread cracks me up. Seriously, can't imagine being that stressed about someone wanting to rejoin their family. I've never had anyone question me when I've asked to rejoin my DW and DD nor have I ever objected to anyone else moving up to be with their family. Probably helps that we always go in the fall or January when there are fewer people in the park. There are far more important things in life that to worry about someone "cutting" in line for BTMRR.

Because we all are relaxed in parks and there are very few people who will actually block your way and get into confrontation. Usually it not worth it. However it does not make cutting right. I am not talking about any sort of breaks someone needs from the line and I do think it is perfectly acceptable to leave for whatever reason and return later. However, I do not see why to send a family ahead and join it later. For once, it is actually annoying when someone moves ahead of you, there is not always much space and believe it or not just 1 person can make a difference on rides like Soarin, when you will be left to wait for the next show. If you are not ready for some reason, family can wait for you at the entrance, nothing wrong with that.

 

[tinkluvr23]

Really this is not a huge deal. I do not think this is worth making a fuss over. I ran and got a drink and a pretzel once while waiting in a hour and a half line. We were still outside and it was easy to get to my spot without going through the whole line. I mean that did not affect the wait time for anyone. And once my sister had to take my nephew after waiting in line for radiator springs racers for awhile. We were about 5 min from getting on the ride and he was crying he had to go so bad heh. We laugh about it now. We talked to a cast member and we stepped to the side while she ran with him to the bathroom and then got right back in line where we were. I have let numerous people through the line that were meeting groups. Only once has it bothered me when about five people went through. I still did not say anything but I did not think that was right.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

~I didn't read this huge thread, but this is something we just don't do. We all prefer to stand in line together, if someone has to leave the line, we all leave or just meet up after the ride. We don't "do anything" with line cutter's , we just don't care.

~There was a family who did this line cutting thing at F!, for the second showing. They were literally shoving, bumping and stepping on people to get to their group. They kept saying "excuse me" over and over again, like a million times, annoying the whole line, lol.

 

[honeydiane1953]

Not a thing life is to short.

 

[DebbieB]

LOL - Wow, this thread cracks me up. Seriously, can't imagine being that stressed about someone wanting to rejoin their family. I've never had anyone question me when I've asked to rejoin my DW and DD nor have I ever objected to anyone else moving up to be with their family. Probably helps that we always go in the fall or January when there are fewer people in the park. There are far more important things in life that to worry about someone "cutting" in line for BTMRR.

When it's a group of adults or teens, I question if they are rejoining their family or are just saying that to jump ahead in line.

 

[ellie05]

If it is not 1 parent and a kid I let them through. We encountered several times when someone needed to get out of line fast with their kid for potty break everyone move and let them through and back.Also there has been a few instances were a dad with 3 teenagers wanted to go through. No way! Me and Dh take up the whole space we hold hands and the other hand is on the rail. We never had anyone said anything. We usually start talking to the people that were behind us until the line cutters eventually fall back.

 

[stpats317]

I developed a good line-cutting response when I worked for the airlines and someone would ask to go to the front of the line - I'd reply with a smile "it's fine with me as long as you get permission from all of those in front of you."

Worked every time.

 

[cmwade77]

You know what I mean; those people who have a member of their group stand in line. Then several members of the group or family come through the line saying 'excuse me' like they have a special place in line ahead of you saved.
This happened to me at several rides including the safari at AK, TT at Epcot, Star tours at DHS. I can't think of more off the top of my head but it did happen at every park(also @ universal but the lines there were in general shorter).
Would I be right in NOT letting these line cutters through? What do you guys do? Just let them barge through? I don't want to start a whole thing with someone in line, but I do feel it is really unfair to those who are waiting. Especially when you get several adults cutting in front of dozens and dozens of children who are waiting along with the rest of us.

Here is the problem, what if the person has panic attacks in lines and there are no alternative entrances for the line you are waiting in.

Just, so you know, the instructions to people in this situation is to do EXACTLY what you describe, it is not an ideal solution and they do try to find a better alternative, but sometimes it's the only option. Another situation is you are in line with your family and have waited 60 minutes+ and your kid has to go to the restroom, should they have to wait all over again?

I am not saying that this is the case all of the time, but if you see someone going under ropes to join their group or cutting past people like this that there may be legitimate reasons.

 

[larryz]

~I didn't read this huge thread, but this is something we just don't do. We all prefer to stand in line together, if someone has to leave the line, we all leave or just meet up after the ride. We don't "do anything" with line cutter's , we just don't care.

~There was a family who did this line cutting thing at F!, for the second showing. They were literally shoving, bumping and stepping on people to get to their group. They kept saying "excuse me" over and over again, like a million times, annoying the whole line, lol.

I read the whole thread, back in February when it was fresh. It's now September, and it's still a) against Disney rules, and b) crude, rude and socially unacceptable for anyone to cut in line.

 

[mesaboy2]

Here is the problem, what if the person has panic attacks in lines and there are no alternative entrances for the line you are waiting in.

Just, so you know, the instructions to people in this situation is to do EXACTLY what you describe, it is not an ideal solution and they do try to find a better alternative, but sometimes it's the only option. Another situation is you are in line with your family and have waited 60 minutes+ and your kid has to go to the restroom, should they have to wait all over again?

I am not saying that this is the case all of the time, but if you see someone going under ropes to join their group or cutting past people like this that there may be legitimate reasons.

And for these reasons there are GACs.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Here is the problem, what if the person has panic attacks in lines and there are no alternative entrances for the line you are waiting in.

Just, so you know, the instructions to people in this situation is to do EXACTLY what you describe, it is not an ideal solution and they do try to find a better alternative, but sometimes it's the only option. Another situation is you are in line with your family and have waited 60 minutes+ and your kid has to go to the restroom, should they have to wait all over again?

I am not saying that this is the case all of the time, but if you see someone going under ropes to join their group or cutting past people like this that there may be legitimate reasons.

Sorry, no. I get motion sick and, therefore, I can't ride many of the attractions. If someone get panic attacks in lines, they just can't ride. Sorry. Get some medication, get a GAC.