What do you do with people that cut in line to meet up with group?

[smidgy]

Extreme exaggeration for effect.

Subtract the "e" and add an "a", and you move from linguistics to mathematics.

NO! NO! not MATH!!!!!!

 

[Minerva Mouse]

Extreme exaggeration for effect.

Subtract the "e" and add an "a", and you move from linguistics to mathematics.

 

[Rip]

These threads start up every so often.
What it comes down to is.

Do you feel that;

1. Your entitled to leave a line an return to it so long as one of your party is still waiting?

2. Or do you feel that once a person leaves a line for any reason, they should re-join the que at the back?

I personally feel #2 is most polite. But these two sides will never see eye to eye. It is strictly a matter of where you see yourself in this world. Either you understand that you and your problems do not matter to other people or you think that people are understanding of your life and all that goes with it.

AS a member of #2 and the "my problems are mine and do mot matter to others" camp, I will never be able to grasp the thinking of the other side.

My challenge is to not let this behavior bother me.

P.S Last time I was a WDW , we had this happen in just about every ride. So I have alot of work cut out for me.

A last thought, This sort of thing never, and I mean NEVER occurred when I was a child. What does that say about us?

You're being too simplistic. I have no issues with anyone having to leave a line and subsequently rejoin, nor do I think anyone really cares about my (first world) "problems". As a matter of fact, it is precisely the fact that I don't care that allows me to smile, step aside, and let others pass.

Maybe that's a paradox.

 

[Rip]

NO! NO! not MATH!!!!!!

Don't worry, I don't math!

 

[smidgy]

ok, I went back and skimmed. the word-that-should-not-be-mentioned... including it's root and other variations IS used often.

there I declare a new drinking game. "entitlement" and it's forms being the "buzz" word.

(just don't play it right now if you are in the MK....oops, dif. thread)

 

[Rip]

I really think this board could be divided into those that care, and those that don't. Most of the arguments seem to ultimately revolve around that. Yes, there are a few outliers (those that think it's always ok regardless of whether you were ever in line and those that think even if you were and had an emergency, tough). But in general, most of us aren't in either of those categories. Most of us agree that people shouldn't save places, "cut" in line if they were never there themselves, etc. I just think it isn't worth worrying over when I'm there trying to enjoy what little time off I have with my family. If you walk past me saying "excuse me, I'm trying to catch up to my family", I'm going to stand to the side and smile at you.

 

[Rip]

ok, I went back and skimmed. the word-that-should-not-be-mentioned... including it's root and other variations IS used often.

there I declare a new drinking game. "entitlement" and it's forms being the "buzz" word.

(just don't play it right now if you are in the MK....oops, dif. thread)

I'm taking my flask and my smartphone next trip. I'll give a full report once I sober up!

 

[andyman8]

sorry if I used an apparrently "overused" word. I didn't keep count. just used a word that I thought fit.

I meant it's basically unfair to go ahead of someone who was there before you. IMO, people who do this think they deserve something more than someone else who is equally
entitled.

oops, it just slipped out, honestly!!!
(just trying to lighten things up)

Geeze, it was only a joke. I wasn't even referring to your specific post just a general observation (and somewhat of an annoyance) I've noticed not only on this board by in general. Everyone always saying how the world is so much more entitled than it used to be. In my opinion, it's just a bunch of baloney.

At this point, I'm not even arguing with anyone!

 

[KellyNY]

I am surprised to see some comments here, jealousy, stress, what is that?
No, we do not get stressed when we are out there, we, majority of us, do not block even so we know cutting is wrong. Why so? Because we cannot get Disneys support on it.
How many times people report that they pointed cutter to CM and CM did nothing. How many times people report that CM told them "what can I do". Are you kidding on me, are they there to look pretty. Disney has policy for no cutting but like other things they do not enforce it and people get bold.
Sorry but I will not get myself into confrontation if I cannot get support. I do not have a problem to point cutters in real life because in every respectful place such things are not allowed. And no, it is not jealousy, I am not even sure what I suppose to be jealous of. It is about fairness, rules and respect to others, nothing else.

 

[Rip]

I am surprised to see some comments here, jealousy, stress, what is that?
No, we do not get stressed when we are out there, we, majority of us, do not block even so we know cutting is wrong. Why so? Because we cannot get Disneys support on it.
How many times people report that they pointed cutter to CM and CM did nothing. How many times people report that CM told them "what can I do". Are you kidding on me, are they there to look pretty. Disney has policy for no cutting but like other things they do not enforce it and people get bold.
Sorry but I will not get myself into confrontation if I cannot get support. I do not have a problem to point cutters in real life because in every respectful place such things are not allowed. And no, it is not jealousy, I am not even sure what I suppose to be jealous of. It is about fairness, rules and respect to others, nothing else.

Since I'm the one that mentioned "jealousy", I'd suggest you read the rest of what I've said.

 

[KellyNY]

Since I'm the one that mentioned "jealousy", I'd suggest you read the rest of what I've said.

I did and I still did not get it, mind to explain.

 

[xipotec]

Maybe that's a paradox.

LOL Nice!

Simple is as simple does....

 

[Rip]

I did and I still did not get it, mind to explain.

Well, it was pretty specific to 1-2 people rejoining their group. Since most people don't know whether these folks were actually there and left, I think a lot of the angst shown on here is really due to jealousy over a perceived "slight".

Sorry, but if you really care about someone politely asking to slip by you, you probably fall into that category.

 

[Rip]

LOL Nice!

Simple is as simple does....

Roll with it, bro. I promise you'll be happier in the end.

Yeah, I caught the sarcasm, it's not applicable though.

 

[KellyNY]

Well, it was pretty specific to 1-2 people rejoining their group. Since most people don't know whether these folks were actually there and left, I think a lot of the angst shown on here is really due to jealousy over a perceived "slight".

Sorry, but if you really care about someone politely asking to slip by you, you probably fall into that category.

I do not see it this way. I think most people talk about fairness and affect on them. Yes, you cannot know why people return, were they there before or not but technically according to Disney rules which they of course do not enforce, rejoining is also considered cutting. If there is a problem why not to ask CM to help to rejoin? Point is just because we do not let it bother us on vacation, like we can actually do anything, does not mean that we do not see what is going on. Just because it is only 1-2 people and affect may be minimal or not, does not mean it is ok. It is not jealousy, which is ridiculous to even mention, but why my time should be less important then someones else? I call it fairness, respect to others, not being entitled. Just the way I was raised.

 

[fiestamomma]

So would you say 47% feel entitled?

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[Mkrop]

Do you seriously not understand the difference between you waiting an extra two minutes and someone waaaay in front of you having to wait thirty minutes extra for their husband or wife or son or daughter to finally reach them after being blocked by a bunch of entitled (yes, that's right, the line blockers are JUST as entitled as those who would plow through without actually having a family member to meet) people who think they are the judge and jury about who has groveled enough to pass them?

And to those who would block me, I'd simply go under or over the rail, pass on the other side and hop right back over once I was past you. I'm not about to let someone else's selfishness spoil my time and I wouldn't give you another thought.

I never in a million years said I would block you, I just think it is rude that you think your time is more valuable than my time. If your party gets separated for ANY reason, the responsible, not entitled thing to do would be to let people pass so they are NOT inconvienced by your family. I got in line together with my family at the beginning of the que, I followed the rules. We used the bathroom BEFORE we got in line, yes even when the kids were little. I brought things to amuse the kids in line so they could wait. I had water in our bag in case it got to hot etc etc. I did everything to asssure my family stayed together in line, why is it suddenly ok for you just fly on past me and get to your family.

Once again none of this applies to TRUE emergencies...diaper blowouts, potty dancing toddlers etc.

 

[ConvenientTruth]

Seems to be a lot of anger over line cutting....maybe it is because we go so much to Disney, but it has never been an issue for me....when it does happen it (which seems to happen very little when I'm at the park, but maybe I'm lucky) it normally is a person or two trying to catch up with their group...in the end those couple of people trying to enjoy the experience with their family is not going to be an issue....it is almost no extra wait time for me.

If you want to take a stand and stop someone from skipping in line, then that is your right....I'm sure it will go over real well and enhance your experience....

 

[rdearth]

It honestly doesn't bother me in any way. Life's too precious to be aggravated by such trivial things.

 

[Mkrop]

Yes, thank you. And as a mom of twin toddlers (take a look at the siggy) yeah, it is kind of a big deal that I make it back to my family if I have to step out of line. If it's a two seater ride then they can't ride without me, and one would probsbly scream for me regardless, and I really think that the fit they might throw if forced to wait for fifteen minutes one step from the ride would make everyone's experience a lot more painful than me slipping by to join them!

Oh here is the crux of it. "I have two toddlers who NEED to ride the ride so I NEED to rejoin my group." Once again why is your family more important than any one elses. Once again get in line together and none of this is an issue And yes things come up so you may need to adapt YOUR plans, you shouldnt think people should adapt theirs. Get to the back of the line. Why is that so difficult a concept

It just occurred to me that rejoining family is even LESS of a issue than I was thinking, in light of the construction of most WDW rides. Generally there are cars, ships, honeypots, whatever, with spaces for a certain number of people. If my family reaches the ride and I'm held up, it's not as if someone ahead of me is going to be allowed to ride with them! The space will remain empty, or, at most, someone from a single rider line (which don't even exist at most rides) might be allowed to join them.

So yeah, those who refuse to let families reconnect are only hurting people out of some perverted and misplaced sense of "theme park justice". They aren't even helping themselves.

What???? This makes no sense. If you are not there and your family chooses to wait for you, then the Smiths will ride then the Jones etc until you finally catch up. No one is going to force them to ride with someone else. They ask how many in your party and fill in accordingly.


And for all those who say things like this is trivial, it really isnt because it starts to make it seem like something like this is commomplace and then more people will do it or try to do it. Little trivial things start that way but can then turn into bigger issues for society in general. Why bother to have lines at all if you cant abide by the rules of the line and common courtesy.