What are you thoughts on same sex schools? UPDATE POST 64

I'm a huge believer in same sex schools! My girls are homeschooled right now, but if I do decide to send them to school at some point, my top choice is a wonderful all-girls school. The education is top-notch and the fact that it is all-girls just makes it better in my mind. :goodvibes
 
I went to an all girls Catholic school~ we weren't any more "wild" than the girls who went to school w the boys.

I got a wonderful education; had a great High school experience; and I don't remember any real issues of have/have not-itis WTH are those comments even about????

If your DD really wants to attend this school; you are comfortable w it~ and you believe she will succeed~ Then I would choose it~ God Bless and Good luck :goodvibes
 
I went to an all boys school grades 6-12, and if i was back in St.L. my boys would be there as well.

That being the case,. I am all in favor of same sex education in high school. I think it gets rid of some of the distractions, and lessens the boys need, and likewise the girls need to be on their A game for the opposite sex. It allows the learning process to address things in a way that is better suited to the boys or girls.

I also think that the environment is better controlled, and hence, less distracting, educationally, socially, etc.
 

I attended an all girls school from 7th-12th grade, I also taught in an all girls school (as well as traditional high schools) and my husband attended an all boys school--so I'm a big fan!

I think it is BEYOND silly to think that being in school teaches some sort of social skill to learn to deal with the opposite sex. I can say with absolute certainty that most people between 14 and 22 have no real idea of how to communicate with the opposite sex. However, the women I know who attended all girls schools tended to be much better equipped to wade through the you know what because they have a much better sense of self worth. For example, the valedictorian of my senior class went on to be the top of the class in the electrical engineering department at Stanford (a predominantly male department). You don't achieve that unless you can get past all the silly boy/girl nonsense.

At this point, we're all 30, many of us are happily married, and some are starting to have kids. I don't think that's very different from any well educated woman, regardless of how they were educated.

ETA: there's no doubt that students do better academically in a single sex environment. That has been proven time and time again. I was mostly speaking to the social aspect.
 
I went to an all girl Catholic school from 10-12th But I was sent there, if you know what I mean. :rotfl:
I attended public school before that and did well right up to about 8th grade. After that my priorities shifted and school was just a place to go and hang out with friends and my boyfriend and of course the place to plan where and when the next party was.

After a struggling with grades in 9th grade my dad sent me to the school in the neighboring town. I was pissed to say the least. It was an all girl school, taught by nuns and I had to wear a uniform. Me, in a uniform...I don't think so.
Well, even though my dad said just one year, I ended up graduating from there. I still thank him to this day. If he hadn't sent me there.

After I accepted the fact and settled in not having boys around wasn't so much an issue. I was still friends with the kids I hung out with before but over time those relationships faded and I met a new group of people. I had a steady boyfriend all through high school so the lack of boys at school to me was a non-issue. They had activities with the all boy school but I never attended any of those functions.

Looking back now it was a smart decision. I still thank him to this day. If he hadn't sent me there I know for a fact I would have dropped out and my life would be very very different, if I was even still alive that is.. I did miss a lot of my old friends and wished I had maintained some of the relationships, but through Facebook I've reconnected with some of them and it's been nice rekindling that friendship. In fact I just went on a girls trip with 3 of them. ;)

Now I'm sure my situation is waaaaaaay different then the reasons you are searching for a school but I just thought I'd present a different look at it.
 
I went to an all-girls boarding school for my last two years of high school. I loved it and was so much happier there than in the coed public school I had been in before. I didn't go crazy after high school because of it. Yes, there were some girls that did go crazy, but there are just as many girls at my (coed) college that go crazy and went to public schools. I also had no problem going from an all-girls environment to a coed college and still doing well. Being at the all-girls school for two years helped give me the confidence to be able to do well that I wasn't getting at public school. It's a really personal decision...some girls hate it, some girls love it.
 
I went to an all girls high school and my brother went to an all boys high school (Catholic, nuns and Brothers). It was just the way it was back in the '60s. Most public schools divided male and female students as well, so did colleges.

We actually had boyfriends and girlfriends, we went steady, we had dances with our counterpart male schools, had co-ed choir, cheered for the boys' schools teams, etc. It wasn't like we were put into isolation. I got a wonderful education; I certainly can't make a judgment as to whether I would have done better or worse in a co-ed environment.

My daughter did fine in a mainstream public school but if the all girl option had been available for her, I would have had no qualms about giving her that choice.

Oh, I remember we only ironed the collar, cuffs, and placket of our oxford shirts because our blazer covered the rest. Those shirts were a bugger to press. :laughing:
 
I dont buy that-a true Catholic community is not bias to others according to their wealth
:sad2:
In their small town-my poor FIL was sent to the private Catholic Boys school-in their 80's now they still have reunions and are friendly with him-even tho he lived a modest life and some of them are millionaires.


I mean this in the kindest possible way, but ... :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Maybe if you mean "catholic" with a lowercase c, but not in the case of Roman Catholic. My metro area has twenty-seven Roman Catholic high schools, and only five of them are co-ed. There is a *definite* socio-economic hierarchy in those schools, and their administrations' attempts to add economic diversity via student aid only go so far. (Generally speaking, the co-ed schools are going to have the most economic diversity, as they are the cheapest -- but they also have the reputation of being willing to take anybody, so most kids are going to prefer the schools that have higher academic performance standards for admission, because they don't want to be perceived as too stupid to have gotten into them.)

The most prestigious debut event here is related to the Church; the girls are presented to the Archbishop. There are some schools where attending is nearly de rigueur, and others where almost no one knows that that ball exists. At the schools where it is expected, the right shoes and the right cars really count, as do the right clothes at outside social events (and being invited to the "right" outside social events -- escorted by boys from the "right" schools, of course.)

In small towns you see more economic mixing because there are fewer school choices, but in bigger cities where there are a wide range of choices, there are plenty of opportunities to discriminate based on wealth. The kids who get in to prestigious Catholic prep schools on scholarships do make useful connections, but they are always remembered as being the scholarship kids -- everyone knows exactly who they are and what their economic circumstances are.

My son is currently in the middle of the Catholic high school admissions process. It's absolutely harrowing, and is widely considered to be much more stressful than the college admissions process for two reasons: 1) the number of choices is much more limited, and 2) several of the available choices cost much more than the average university.

PS: I should mention that there is a range of cost among the choices, it's just that some can go high, though in some cases price is not in direct proportion to academic standards. The girls' schools are generally comparatively a bit cheaper than the boys' schools across the board, because the boys' schools tend to maintain monster athletic programs. This year, the cheapest of the single-sex schools is just under $6K, while the most expensive is just around $20K.
 
I think uniforms are better at reducing distractions than single gender schools.

I went to a private HS and public HS... the girls in the private sure did know how to wear their uniforms to be distracting.
In the public school, no shorts were allowed for boys or girls. Which didn't bother me, I always wore pants in school, the classrooms were too cold.
 
Well thank you everyone!

I just read everything, as my DD has strep, so have been lying down with her a bit this morning.

I appreciate all opinions, I honestly do.

This is a private school, I forget if I wrote that. There is a headmistress, and it is run by nuns, not as much as it was 20 years ago, they now take children of all denominations. As I do remember mentioning, ALL of our schools have the uniform in place, so that is a NON issue. I love the uniform, and the way it simplifies our life, and the fact that all children look the same.

Everyone has a different view, and that is absolutely fine. I can see that in my family. My Mother and Father are 100% onboard, as is my FIL, it is just my SIL, but her son is 14mths, and we shall when it comes time for his schooling!

In the end it is OUR decision, and "IF" she does get in, one that we will not make lightly.
 
I dont buy that-a true Catholic community is not bias to others according to their wealth
:sad2:
In their small town-my poor FIL was sent to the private Catholic Boys school-in their 80's now they still have reunions and are friendly with him-even tho he lived a modest life and some of them are millionaires.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------I was going to type out all the experiences of my late DH's 3 youngest DD's who attended Catholic schools - as well as 2 of my neices - and how the "haves and the have nots" were most certainly treated differently, but the posts below seem to sum it up pretty well - unfortunately..:(
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:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Having attended Catholic schools for many years, including a Catholic college and sending my kids to a Catholic school DURING the school years, you will see MORE of the haves/have not issues in a private school, especially Catholic schools. Now, hopefully when they are in their 80's they have all matured some and realized that the label on your jeans doesn't make you a good or bad person :thumbsup2.

I hate to be the grammar police, but your statement implies that you do buy that there is bias in a true Catholic community, and I'm pretty sure thats not what you meant.
I went to a private Catholic school, and it was well known who the haves and the haves not were, and the have nots were treated differently.


OP, if the all girl is the best choice for your dd, and she is on board with going then clearly that is the right school no matter what gender the student body is comprised of.

I mean this in the kindest possible way, but ... :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Maybe if you mean "catholic" with a lowercase c, but not in the case of Roman Catholic. My metro area has twenty-seven Roman Catholic high schools, and only five of them are co-ed. There is a *definite* socio-economic hierarchy in those schools, and their administrations' attempts to add economic diversity via student aid only go so far. (Generally speaking, the co-ed schools are going to have the most economic diversity, as they are the cheapest -- but they also have the reputation of being willing to take anybody, so most kids are going to prefer the schools that have higher academic performance standards for admission, because they don't want to be perceived as too stupid to have gotten into them.)

The most prestigious debut event here is related to the Church; the girls are presented to the Archbishop. There are some schools where attending is nearly de rigueur, and others where almost no one knows that that ball exists. At the schools where it is expected, the right shoes and the right cars really count, as do the right clothes at outside social events (and being invited to the "right" outside social events -- escorted by boys from the "right" schools, of course.)

In small towns you see more economic mixing because there are fewer school choices, but in bigger cities where there are a wide range of choices, there are plenty of opportunities to discriminate based on wealth. The kids who get in to prestigious Catholic prep schools on scholarships do make useful connections, but they are always remembered as being the scholarship kids -- everyone knows exactly who they are and what their economic circumstances are..

OP - I would definitely send your DD to this school if it's what all of you want.. Sounds like a wonderful place..:thumbsup2 My youngest brother and my nephew both went to an all-boys school (military) - got an excellent education - and still maintained very active social lives outside of their school setting.. What's the most important is how you, your DH, and your DD feel about this idea..

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that she's accepted..:goodvibes
 
I spent a year at an all girl catholic school and loved it...I wish I would have been able to spend all 4 years there but it was a huge hardship for my mom and I just didn't feel right watching how much she would have had to sacrifice so I told her I wanted to go back to my old public school.

Anyway I liked that we had uniforms, that we had lots of activities, and I felt that without boys in the school that the focus was more on academics. Teenage girls obsess alot about boys and i felt like there was no self conciousness at all while in classes without the boys.
 
I went to a private Catholic school, and it was well known who the haves and the haves not were, and the have nots were treated differently.


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:sad2:
My kids went go to a private Catholic school-we are middle class-many wealthy kids there-mine have gone to the pre=prom parties at the Masions, shared the limos with the rich kids-and roomed with the rich kids-shared a house-while in college. I guess its just were you live.:confused3
 
I don't think there are any social development issues with a single-sex school. I skipped several grades and everyone howled about my social development--but I had dance classes, neighborhood sports, theater...all sorts of activities with kids my own age. I think it would be the same way for kids at single-sex schools.

I do, however, agree with those who think that economic statuses are more highlighted at private schools. I attended a very prestigious coed high school (Episcopalian). We didn't have uniforms, but we had a very strict dress code.

My parents were college-educated white collar professionals making well above the average salary for our area. But we weren't millionaires and we weren't "old money." So you can believe I was the "poor kid." Our fundraisers were things like auctions where parents bid five figures for all sorts of trips and special experiences donated by the other parents, who all had crazy contacts...my parents didn't have those connections, or that kind of money to drop. My jeans cost $50 per pair, not $300 per pair, so they didn't have the "right" label. It just goes on and on. I wasn't necessarily ostracized for it, but I also wasn't one of the "cool kids" because of it.

But despite that, I wouldn't trade the education that I received for anything. Ultimately, my parents and I decided that the academics were the most important, and I got most of my social needs met outside of school.

I never could have survived in an all girls school though. For whatever reason, I've never connected well with most girls. Most of my friends have always been boys, starting in early childhood. But clearly I'm in the minority there.

OP, if your daughter is confident about the choice of schools, you can afford it, and you feel good about it as a parent, go for it! Everyone's educational needs and goals are different and if this school meets your daughter's, don't let anyone dissuade you.
 
Well I attended an all girl high school and yes I had a bit of girls gone wild in college- but nothing that the rest of the freshman class didn't do either.

I loved my all girl school. Mine were Sisters Of Mercy nuns. And they were fantastic. So encouraging and really helped me find my way. It was a great experience for me. My sister went to the same school and had a totally different experience. She hated it.

If your daughter wants to go and you want her to go I say let her go. And she'll love it. (oh and I had a boyfriend throughout highschool- trust me boys can find you even in catholic school-)

Wanted to add that my career placed me in a very male dominated field and I had no problems. In fact I think the fact that I went to an all girls school made me self confident enough to handle being the only woman.
 
I never could have survived in an all girls school though. For whatever reason, I've never connected well with most girls. Most of my friends have always been boys, starting in early childhood. But clearly I'm in the minority there.

This. My friends (including my current best friend who is conveniently my husband) have always been guys. I've never socialized well with my own gender.
 
My husband and I both went to single sex schools and it was the best experience ever. Our daughter is a freshman at a sister of Mercy school and she is blossoming. Even my mil commented that her school picture this year looks she is so much more confident and happy. She has also developed more boy friendships than she ever had at her co ed schools.
 
It sounds to me like your DD is weighing what is important in a school. If it is a great school and she likes it then I say go for it. I attended an all women's college and had several friends who came from single sex high schools. The biggest difference I see is the lack of drama from the girls. Ultimately your DD needs to be happy so where ever she will be most comfortable and academically challenged will be the right choice.

For the pp who said the girls may have a hard time in male dominated fields, I completely disagree. Every friend I have from college including those who went to all-girls high schools work in male dominated fields and are highly successful doing it. I believe that even studies show that girls from all-girls schools are more successful and more likely to enter math and science fields than girls from co-ed schools.
 
Interesting...

I went to a co-ed school and not a great one at that. Half of my friends were always boys and that continued on into the workplace as I get along quite well with male coworkers. I also graduated with a degree in a male dominated field and never felt out of place or concerned about what others thought.

I personally don't think that type of school matters as long as it's good for the student. I wouldn't have wanted an all-girl's school but see nothing wrong with them for others.
 


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