wedding dress hem Now with Pics!

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I went for my first fitting yesterday and I'm really unhappy with my hem. You can see the little thin line all the way around at the bottom. I would find it acceptable for other clothing, but not for a wedding dress. It's being done at the bridal salon, and I just expected that they would do a more professional job.

Does the hem normally not look as good after it is altered? I mean when it was originally made it had a hem that you couldn't see at all, so I know it's possible. I tried googling and couldn't find any pictures of what it should look like. I didn't say anything at the shop because I didn't know if that was normal after having it hemmed, and I'm not good with confronting people. Plus now it's done, so I don't know what can be done about it. Maybe I'll take my mom with me next time so she can handle it.
 
A good seamstress should be able to re-create the hem the dress had. Its the reason some alterations can take a while and the price so high. Although generally, especially if there is detailing at the bottom of the dress, they will separate the dress from the bodice and alter it at the top of the skirt. (if this is possible I.e. not on slinky dresses, or those not in 'two halves'). Anyone can cut material off the bottom of a dress and create a hem, that's why you pay the seamstress the big bucks to do a good job.
 
When my dress was hemmed you couldn't tell. And she actually didn't even cut the dress. She brought it up so that if it needed to be taken out it could. I brought my mother with me as she also does a lot of sewing. If you are not happy with it you need to say something. You don't need to be mean just mention that you can see the hem and is it suppose to look like this. You paid a lot of money for the dress (im assuming) and even if you didn't this is a very special day for you and you want everything to look great. Plus your paying for service that you are not receiving. Speak up or it will bother you.
 

When my dress was hemmed you couldn't tell either, but it was a bubble hem, so that might have made the difference. The train was flat though and it did not look any different after they hemmed it. So, I think you do need to say something about it. Alterations are expensive and it's a very important garment, you need to be happy with the final product. I'm sure the store and seamstress would also want you to be happy with it too.
 
I went for my first fitting yesterday and I'm really unhappy with my hem. You can see the little thin line all the way around at the bottom. I would find it acceptable for other clothing, but not for a wedding dress. It's being done at the bridal salon, and I just expected that they would do a more professional job.

Does the hem normally not look as good after it is altered? I mean when it was originally made it had a hem that you couldn't see at all, so I know it's possible. I tried googling and couldn't find any pictures of what it should look like. I didn't say anything at the shop because I didn't know if that was normal after having it hemmed, and I'm not good with confronting people. Plus now it's done, so I don't know what can be done about it. Maybe I'll take my mom with me next time so she can handle it.

If you are really unhappy talk to the seamstress and relay your concerns/fears over the dress. They may not realise how unhappy you are with it and will be happy to try and rectify any problems.

If you say nothing then nothing will change and you risk it bothering you on your big day. This is a special day for you so its understandable for you to want everything right, the seamstress and the store should understand this or they are in the wrong line of work.

hope you find a way to solve this pixiedust:
 
Thanks guys. I'm pretty sure it was finished because the seam was sewn all the way around, just like a seam my mom would make. It was almost wrinkled like the bottom of jeans but not that thick.

I paid $800, and that was the price because I bought the sample. The alterations are $200 and that includes the hem, bustle, and restiching some places that were messed up due to it being a sample. I was expecting to pay more for alterations...maybe that is why!

The dress has a pretty simple hem, I think.
http://www.morilee.com/bridals/bridal/2507
 
Thanks guys. I'm pretty sure it was finished because the seam was sewn all the way around, just like a seam my mom would make. It was almost wrinkled like the bottom of jeans but not that thick.

I paid $800, and that was the price because I bought the sample. The alterations are $200 and that includes the hem, bustle, and restiching some places that were messed up due to it being a sample. I was expecting to pay more for alterations...maybe that is why!

The dress has a pretty simple hem, I think.
http://www.morilee.com/bridals/bridal/2507
It's hard to say from the photo because it's a little small, even with the zoom, but it looks like it should be a rolled hem to me and definitely not just a hem that's folded under and sewn straight across (a double turned hem). Dresses and skirts very rarely have this kind of hem. If I were you I would definitely mention it if it bothers you. It's not really an appropriate style hem for a wedding dress, especially if it's not even well sewn.
 
Thanks. I don't know the sewing terms, but I have the fabric she cut off and though the thread is removed, I told my mom it looked like it was somehow rolled under. So it probably was a rolled hem. My mom said she can do a blind stich herself it comes to that. They are closed Sundays and Mondays so I'll call tomorrow.
 
So I called the dress shop and spoke with the owner. The seamstress only works on weekends. I acted like I was just being the stupid one and said I have a question, and it's probably a stupid question, but I just decided to call and ask instead of making myself upset about it. The hem on the dress is not finished yet is it?

She said what do you mean not finished? I told her that it was just a straight across hem like on a pair of jeans, and before you couldn't see the hem at all. She went and looked at it and told me that there was a piece of fabric in the hem to make it stiff before and the dress was kind of wrapped around that fabric, and sewn in the back and that's why you couldn't see it, but since she had to cut fabric off that piece isn't there anymore so it had to have this kind of seam.

She asked if I could envison that. Yes, I can envision that, but can't you still just roll it back some and do some sort of blind stich? She said she didn't think that could be done because I'm short on time.

I said so you are looking at it right now and you think that's how a wedding dress hem should look? She said yes and that they have several dresses in the store now with that kind of hem that I'm welcome to come and look at! :mad: She also has a wedding planning business and I just can't believe that she thinks that is acceptable.

I told her to just find out if the seamstress would be able to do it and let me know so I can have someone else do it if she can't. I wasn't *****y at all, I was trying my best to be firm and not cave. I'm pretty sure that she does know it's wrong because as soon as she asked what do you mean the hem isn't finished she started huffing like she was scared. I wasn't even really mad about it, I just wanted it fixed, but she's acting like I'm crazy. I'll post a picture after I pick it up and see what y'all think. Maybe I am crazy. :confused3
 
Ooohhhhh okay. Yeah, she definitely must think something is wrong--- it sounds like she was very defensive!

I am definitely looking forward to seeing the dress. I hope this gets resolved. :goodvibes
 
I'd be pretty mad-it sounds like she admitted that they changed the type of hem because it was easier to do. To me, it wouldn't matter if other dresses had that kind if hem - your's was designed with a different type and you should leave with a dress the way it was intended to look by the designer. Definitely be firm and say that they shouldn't have changed the look of the bottom of the dress and that you want it altered the correct way.
 
I had to call Carolyn Allen's to ask something about the tux order I'm about to send, and I told them I needed an unbiased opinion (they do bridal alterations too) I described it to them the best I could without exagerating, and she said you mean where you can see the stiching? In a tone like no way. She started telling me the same thing about the stiff piece of fabric sewn in at the bottom and how sometimes it is cut out, but it should still look the same just not as stiff.

I will tell her I don't care if other dresses have that type of hem, mine didn't. That's good advice. At the very least they should have told me before hand that they would change it. I will try to be firm about it but the bottom line is I don't think they are willing to fix it. My mom wants me to get money back since I have to have someone else (her, but that's besides the point) fix it and most likely by shorter or flat shoes.

I'm not good at complaining and holding firm, but I'm going to try.
 
It's so awful that they just want you to accept something that you don't like, and have a whole bunch of excuses ready to convince you that you're wrong and they're not at fault. I would definitely continue to pressure them to so it they way you want to see it done, even though it might be difficult. (I can definitely relate to just accepting things I don't like rather than complaining.) I'm sure they won't appreciate this, but if they had just done it correctly the first time there wouldn't be an issue of there not being enough time for their seamstress to fix it.

I hope you can work something out so they fix it without your mom having to do it, or at the very least get some kind of money back.
 
It is the size of the stitch that can make the hugest of difference - and a large stitch (and sounds like it was possibly a machine job) is easier and HEAPS faster...

I don't know what it looks like - so not sure if it is "normal" or not - depends on the fabric, how many layers and other variables BUT..... They should have DEFINATELY told you if the alteration was going to change how the dress looked.

Ultimately, you now have a dress that does not look like the one you purchased - and personally I'd be making a HUGE fuss about that! You don't want to be upset or stressed about it on the day.

I would talk to the seamstress in person, explain your concerns and see what she says. If she apoligises and says she can fix it (and you feel confident that she can) then let them fix it. For me however, if the seamstress was the slightest bit defensive or saying it can't be fixed, id be taking my dress quick smart to someone else who can. Unless you still have lots of material left - you won't have much room to play with a new hem - so you need to make sure however fixes it this time does it properly - you don't want a mid calf length dress....


On another story - one of the very few alfred angelo dealers in Melbourne (Australia) is also the seamstess at her store. When my bridesmaids were measured seperately, at the last measuring - she declared that jess was the same size as clare. I had close to a fight in the store over this when the dresses were ordered, saying I know 110% that my bridesmaids, and clare and jess are DEFINATELTY not the same size - yes they are both skinny (im a bit cuddly) but clare is super super short, has a small frame, and does have b00bs... Jess, also skinny, is tall, no b00bs and has wide hips and shoulders..... Nope - she was adament that jess (that was there at the time) was the same size as clare.

Trying to work out how she could be so certian that they were the same size (when I know they are not) I suggested that maybe she got the measrements wrong. If jess really is a size 2, then clare (who was not there) would have to be a size 0. Clares measurements must be wrong and that would explain the confusion. It would also even make sense, as previously we were going to get henri josef dresses from somewhere else and the girls were measured in sizes:
clare - 2
jess - 4
sarah - 4
danni - 16

in the alfred angelo dresses she was trying to say
clare 2
jess 2
sarah 4
danni 16

I was trying to tell her that jess is much closer to sarah's size, and there is no way she would fit into any clothes of clares. (clare wears siz aus jeans - jess wears 10 *** of her hips)

She even got narky and really defensive, saying she has been a seamstress for 25 years, she has never gotten measurements wrong etc etc etc...

I brought clare back to be measured to make sure hers was right and eventually gave in - i did not need to have a screaming match in the store... I walked out with her GARUNTEE that she had definately ordered the right sizes and all would be fine.

NEVER EVER AGAIN if I have any doubt will I settle for thier word unless I am 100% confident they are telling the truth and are right. Obviously - when the dress came (3 weeks before the wedding) it was WAY TOO SMALL - she could only just get it done up, couldn't breath, and because she was taller and had hips/shoulders - the dress was way too short - and the bodice that should go to her hips like on the other girls only went to her belly button and looked ridicoulous.

I rang this woman (it was the morning of my hens day) and went OFF. She was still defending herself, saying she'll fix it (you cant make the bodice any longer, and i dont want the other girls in mini skirts to match the lengths either) etc etc... I had another seamstress who was doing my gown at my house who said - no way you could fix that dress. Store owner eventually gave in that it couldn't be fixed - but no refund and no time to get a new dress - so the only thing she could do was order extra material for my new seamstress to try and make the sash on that dress larger to hide the ugly too short bodice and they'd have to be different lengths... sarah and jess swapped dresses too - sarah squeezed into the 2 better than jess did - but the 4 was still too small for jess.

At the time it was awful - but a blessing now I suppose - a few days later the wedding actually had to be cancelled - and thank goodness I didn't have to have my bridesmaids in mismatched dresses. We are now going to WDW to get married and over $1200 worth of unused dresses are sitting in my cupboard.

I should write the store owner a letter (she doesn't know i didnt get married) and tell her we couldn't use the dresses due to her stuff up and say we had to get new ones and demand a refund... had the wedding proceeded it was what we were going to look at doing anyway, with my gown seamstress trying to fix the existing BM dress as a back up.

Anyway - longwinded - but the moral of my story - if they have already stuffed it up once - unless you feel 110% confident in thier ability to fix it - don't let them touch it again. I'd rather count my losses money wise than have them completely wreck it on you - and you can take photo's and get advice and try and get your money back from them later!!! Infact - an independant letter and technical information from a seamstress stating that it was done wrong/badly etc may help you get your money back in the long wrong.

Do you have something like consumer affairs - where you can complain about goods not being as described etc???
 
This makes me so nervous to get my dress altered now :sad2: I hope everything works out for you and you get your dress to look the way you want. Nobody should have their dress ruined like that.
 
First of all that is a beautiful dress. You should not see the stitching for the hem. It really sounds like they tried to do a fast machine job. Definately go back and have them do something.

Please post pictures when you get them. Would love to see how you look in that wonderful dress.

Linda
 
Well I went with my mom today to pick it up. The sales consultant who helped me find it (and who was so helpful and I love) still said that she thought the hem was good. Owner wasn't there. The bustle was messed up (not done yet when I went last time) and she did say that the bustle was unacceptable. She said that she would have the seamstress fix that, but I told her I didn't trust her to because if she could do better she should have the first time.

My mom asked about a refund for the alterations and she said they couldn't because seamstress already spent time on it and has to be paid and it would come out of shop's pocket. I told her I didn't want seamstress to not get paid for her time and it should come out of shop's pocket because the owner is the one that hired someone that doesn't do a good job. She replied that the seamstress would no longer be working there. So they know that she does bad work and they still refuse to refund anything!

The sales consultant even started crying because I was. (Not because my mom was being mean) She said she hated that I was so upset and felt like it reflected on her. I told her that it wasn't her fault and it wasn't her that I was upset with, and that I was so happy with her service. I did say I wasn't happy that the owner wasn't willing to do anything about it.

Going to my mom's tonight afterwork so she can get started fixing it...it's a bigger nightmare than it was when I first posted. Will post pics tonight or tomorrow. I asked my mom if I made it sound worse than it was and she said not at all.
 
How awful. I'm really sorry. The shop should stand behind their work and offer a refund. What happened to "The customer is always right"? What horrible service. I hope you are able to fix it and it isn't too much trouble. I'd write a letter to the store, if it is a chain I'd write a letter to corporate. They should want to make their customers happy, you spent $1,000 at their store! Ugh, I'm mad for you!
 












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