We did it again! Family of 4 eats for $75 a day. Read all about it, plus reviews!

[pinchy]

Interesting that you assume all servers are females...


The last time I waited tables the owner, who was also the manager, would not tolerate repeat customers who did not tip, he did not want their business. He had built up a local reputation of good food, good prices AND good servers that stayed with him for years. He was more concerned with keeping his staff who he knew were good servers, or they would not be working for him.

Now that was a boss I respected, because he respected his staff.

the couple of occasions in my life that I haven't tipped I have known that they were restaurants I would never step in again because the experience had been so poor. I would find it weird if someone didn't tip at a restaurant and expected to go back and get decent service.

 

[chobie]

Can we get back to topic. Can you debate tipping policies on a seperate thread? Thanks!

What topc? Oh, the how to save money by only eating half a meal and having someone else tip for you? It's a way to economize but I don't think it would work for most people.

 

[thelionqueen]

Are you?

I agree with Chobie. You just stated that after your "interview" with a restaurant employee, she "averaged out" over the week. So yes, you are basically saying it's ok to undertip because someone will overtip. Unless I read your post wrong, that is how I took it.

The bottom line for me, having been a server all through college and beyond, is that I could NEVER have made EVEN CLOSE to what someone with a Master's degree made. And I worked my tail off to ensure my guests had a great dining experience. I did expect to be tipped a decent amount for exceptional service and nothing for substandard service.

But if you're trying to justify going to a nice TS dinner, in WDW or anywhere else, and you get great service but you cannot afford to tip, sorry, that's just wrong and I think you know it. Going out to eat INCLUDES an appropriate tip for good service..period. If you cannot afford the tip, IMHO, you cannot afford to eat out.

 

[jbbt]

Are you?

I guess that just proves that neither of us has anything better to do this afternoon than sit around, waiting to comment on this thread!


I've got to go find something more productive to do.

 

[pinchy]

I agree with Chobie. You just stated that after your "interview" with a restaurant employee, she "averaged out" over the week. So yes, you are basically saying it's ok to undertip because someone will overtip. Unless I read your post wrong, that is how I took it.

The bottom line for me, having been a server all through college and beyond, is that I could NEVER have made EVEN CLOSE to what someone with a Master's degree made. And I worked my tail off to ensure my guests had a great dining experience. I did expect to be tipped a decent amount for exceptional service and nothing for substandard service.

But if you're trying to justify going to a nice TS dinner, in WDW or anywhere else, and you get great service but you cannot afford to tip, sorry, that's just wrong and I think you know it. Going out to eat INCLUDES an appropriate tip for good service..period. If you cannot afford the tip, IMHO, you cannot afford to eat out.

But the OP said that on occasions with a particularly low tip she had had bad service. And furthermore she pointed out that someone else was putting down extra tip money. She didn't say she couldn't afford the tip, she went on to say her mother wanted to do it as a nice gesture. How can anyone have a problem with any of this?

 

[chobie]

But the OP said that on occasions with a particularly low tip she had had bad service. And furthermore she pointed out that someone else was putting down extra tip money. She didn't say she couldn't afford the tip, she went on to say her mother wanted to do it as a nice gesture. How can anyone have a problem with any of this?

Because some people have opined that they should be able to not tip if they can't afford it and others have said flat out they just don't beleive in tipping very much because they have a master's degree and don't think that servers (who they beleive are all women) should make more money than them. That is the problem we have and others have a problem with the OP stating that others can eat for as little as she did when it is highly unlikely that other people will bring their parents along to tip for them.

 

[jbbt]

I agree with Chobie. You just stated that after your "interview" with a restaurant employee, she "averaged out" over the week. So yes, you are basically saying it's ok to undertip because someone will overtip. Unless I read your post wrong, that is how I took it.

The bottom line for me, having been a server all through college and beyond, is that I could NEVER have made EVEN CLOSE to what someone with a Master's degree made. And I worked my tail off to ensure my guests had a great dining experience. I did expect to be tipped a decent amount for exceptional service and nothing for substandard service.

But if you're trying to justify going to a nice TS dinner, in WDW or anywhere else, and you get great service but you cannot afford to tip, sorry, that's just wrong and I think you know it. Going out to eat INCLUDES an appropriate tip for good service..period. If you cannot afford the tip, IMHO, you cannot afford to eat out.

Are you serious? Okay, My POINT is to the people that thought it was so horrible of the OP to not tip exactly like they would......stop worrying if the OP tipped a dollar or two less than what you think is appropriate because it will all work out in the end.

 

[traviesojmt]

What topc? Oh, the how to save money by only eating half a meal and having someone else tip for you? It's a way to economize but I don't think it would work for most people.

It is perfectly fine that the topic was of no interest or help to you. We are glad that you are not in the position to use any of these methods. However, there are some who were enjoying the actual topic before it was hijacked. It doesn't matter that it wouldn't work for most people. People are allowed to take whatever they chose from the post. I, of course, knew that it wasn't something in which my family would be interested. Just because it didn't pertain to me, I didn't feel the need to belittle those in which it might. Why do some of you feel that others aren't bright enough to understand that the OP had some help and chose to share meals? Her menus choices still might have been helpful to others. If this thread was unhelpful to you, why do you feel the need to ruin it for others? I agree with another poster who said that you should start your own thread on tipping. Leave this to what it was originally intended. The fact is the OP did eat for the amount she stated. She also stated that she had help with tips. I'm pretty sure that most readers here can understand that her plan might not work for them. I keep coming back hoping that the original topic of the thread might return. I can see that I am wrong and that it has become a place to bash others. The original questions about her tips were fine for clarification. She answered them. That should have been enough.

 

[chobie]

It is perfectly fine that the topic was of no interest or help to you. We are glad that you are not in the position to use any of these methods. However, there are some who were enjoying the actual topic before it was hijacked. It doesn't matter that it wouldn't work for most people. People are allowed to take whatever they chose from the post. I, of course, knew that it wasn't something in which my family would be interested. Just because it didn't pertain to me, I didn't feel the need to belittle those in which it might. Why do some of you feel that others aren't bright enough to understand that the OP had some help and chose to share meals? Her menus choices still might have been helpful to others. If this thread was unhelpful to you, why do you feel the need to ruin it for others? I agree with another poster who said that you should start your own thread on tipping. Leave this to what it was originally intended. The fact is the OP did eat for the amount she stated. She also stated that she had help with tips. I'm pretty sure that most readers here can understand that her plan might not work for them. I keep coming back hoping that the original topic of the thread might return. I can see that I am wrong and that it has become a place to bash others. The original questions about her tips were fine for clarification. She answered them. That should have been enough.

First of all, it was the later comments about tipping that I joined in on, not the OP because she explained her position.

Second, EVERY, thread goes off topic. If you want to be a thread topic police that's fine but don't expect everyone to just "ITA" everything an OP says just because you feel that is what should be done.

Third, I do economize when in WDW, by eating breakfast in the room, lugging my own water bottles around etc. I'm not looking down my nose at people for streching their vacation dollars, BUT when other people chime into to say they only way they can "afford" to eat at certain resturaunts is by not tipping --that is wrong in my opinion and I will comment on that whether it is off topic or not.

 

[thelionqueen]

Are you serious? Okay, My POINT is to the people that thought it was so horrible of the OP to not tip exactly like they would......stop worrying if the OP tipped a dollar or two less than what you think is appropriate because it will all work out in the end.

The ONLY reason it will work out in the end is because of people like us who tip appropriately! Yes, I will continue to tip appropriately so that someone else can tip less or not at all because they cannot afford it but I'm so rich that it's no problem for me

 

[pinchy]

The ONLY reason it will work out in the end is because of people like us who tip appropriately! Yes, I will continue to tip appropriately so that someone else can tip less or not at all because they cannot afford it but I'm so rich that it's no problem for me

from a logical standpoint.... please note this is NOT a serious suggestion... BUT theoretically if everyone tipped 10% rather than 20% the restaurant business / government would be forced to rectify the problem *need pondering smiley*

 

[chobie]

from a logical standpoint.... please note this is NOT a serious suggestion... BUT theoretically if everyone tipped 10% rather than 20% the restaurant business / government would be forced to rectify the problem *need pondering smiley*

Yes, they just might add the tip on automatically to every bill and then it wouldn't be an issue. Or they could raise the prices and give the servers a better hourly wage. Either way, you would be paying.

 

[jbbt]

Oh, I've got a GREAT idea. Instead in dining reports or trip reports, let's do TIP reports. We'll report back how much we spent at each restaurant, we'll rate the service and then how much we tipped. Now that will keep us talking for months. Any takers? Who wants to go first? Well I guess NvrBnToWDW inadvertantly went first, so who wants to go second????

 

[thelionqueen]

Oh, I've got a GREAT idea. Instead in dining reports, let's do TIP reports. We'll report back how much we spent at each restaurant, we'll rate the service and then how much we tipped. Now that will keep us talking for months. Any takers? Who wants to go first? Well I guess NvrBnToWDW inadvertantly went first, so who wants to go second????

 

[majortom]

It is perfectly fine that the topic was of no interest or help to you.

This topic is of interest to me, however, as I have noted, our Original Poster's subject heading, is not really what she talks about. If the heading was: "How to Eat at Disney on $75 a Day of One's Own Money and a Varying Subsidy from One's Parents" than it would be truthful (although not that interesting to me as my parents do not feel that they should subsidize my eating meals out).

there are some who were enjoying the actual topic before it was hijacked.

It was not hijacked, it was never real. Either the original poster was advocating tipping 10% or she did not eat on $75 a day (in any meaningful way).

Just because it didn't pertain to me, I didn't feel the need to belittle those in which it might.

I would never belittle someone for economizing by making choices that affect them. I have a serious problem with economizing by making someone else pay (I do not mean one's friends or parents, they are just a proxy for you).

Why do some of you feel that others aren't bright enough to understand that the OP had some help and chose to share meals?

It is clear that she chose to share her meals, but her topic and her posts with her actual menus and bills have not been edited to make them accurate (seven pages into this thread, she explains that someone else paid part of her tab, but does not correct her original posts).

/carmi

 

[Aimeedyan]

Then she also did not eat for under $75 a day. You cannot have it both ways. By posting her exact dollar amounts without posting how much someone else added in tips, she is doing one of two things:

1. Arguing that these are valid amounts to tip.
2. Misleading readers into thinking one can eat as she did for those amounts she listed.

Either is wrong. Again saying "one can eat for $75 a day if one has someone else paying for everything over $75" may be true but is certainly meaningless.

/carmi

EXACTLY!!

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

This topic is of interest to me, however, as I have noted, our Original Poster's subject heading, is not really what she talks about. If the heading was: "How to Eat at Disney on $75 a Day of One's Own Money and a Varying Subsidy from One's Parents" than it would be truthful (although not that interesting to me as my parents do not feel that they should subsidize my eating meals out).



It was not hijacked, it was never real. Either the original poster was advocating tipping 10% or she did not eat on $75 a day (in any meaningful way).



I would never belittle someone for economizing by making choices that affect them. I have a serious problem with economizing by making someone else pay (I do not mean one's friends or parents, they are just a proxy for you).



It is clear that she chose to share her meals, but her topic and her posts with her actual menus and bills have not been edited to make them accurate (seven pages into this thread, she explains that someone else paid part of her tab, but does not correct her original posts).

/carmi

Well said. I agree.

 

[Anewman]

Without starting a war, since we know that can not happen on this board.

Is a 12 year old considered a child when it comes to dining, or was an ADULT passed off as a child?

 

[calie_j]

Without starting a war, since we know that can not happen on this board.

Is a 12 year old considered a child when it comes to dining, or was an ADULT passed off as a child?

When buying the dining plan 10 and up is considered adult and must purchase the adult plan. When paying OOP Disney allows you to order off the children's menu at any age even tho the menu will state otherwise. I've seen many posts where adults have done this (along with teens & the tweens) with no problem at both TS & CS.

 

[mejo]

Because some people have opined that they should be able to not tip if they can't afford it and others have said flat out they just don't beleive in tipping very much because they have a master's degree and don't think that servers (who they beleive are all women) should make more money than them. That is the problem we have and others have a problem with the OP stating that others can eat for as little as she did when it is highly unlikely that other people will bring their parents along to tip for them.

People have a problem with this because they are looking for something to have a problem with. Tipping is a personal choice, not a requirement. The op has felt that she needed to defend herself because she was attacked that is ridiculous.

I can not believe that you people call yourselves Disney People, but then again maybe you need Disney to counteract all the turmoil in your lives.