We did it again! Family of 4 eats for $75 a day. Read all about it, plus reviews!

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tiggergirlinMI said:
Lulu, Please don't think I was saying you attacked the OP, I know you didn't. I also wasn't attempting to flame anyone who was just expressing differences. I was referring to the earlier posters who did attack her. I have respect for everyone, even if our opinions are different! :grouphug:

I don't think that at all! I'm very good at taking "DIS debates" in stride. :goodvibes I like to defend everyone's right to disagree, which is how I get involved in these things in the first place! :grouphug:

Everyone should feel comfortable on the DIS- comfortable to agree or disagree without being told to keep their opinions to themselves. I love reading "different opinions", tiggergirl, including yours. ALL are valuable. :hippie:
 
Wow, reading this thread was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. How pathetic that this thread was hijacked by the "tipping police" and the "header accuracy" squad. I was enjoying the description of dining on a budget until all the stupid comments about checking proper tipping amounts, why her header was misleading, and remarks about why TS restaurants are better than CS restaurants. Now the OP has fled their own thread (which was intended to help others) because of all the criticisms made in response to her OP.
Just pathetic. :sad2:
 
My family eats extremely well at home, but they would turn ferral on me if I made them eat at sit down places all the time in WDW. Yes we enjoy a few sit down meals but most of our meals at WDW are grab and run. This is a theme park, we love it, and we want to see shows and ride the rides. I love the OP's ideas and I salute her for them. As for tipping, I've been a waitress on and off in my 44 years, I received what I earned, sometimes great tips and sometimes .02 (and I deserved it). Because of my experience I never feel its necessary to tip bad service. If I received mediocre service its 10%, good service 15% and great service (and I must admit, I have seen alot of great service in my day) its 20%, and if your having a bad day and giving me bad service its .02 ( I've done this probably about 3/4 times, and did not feel bad about doing so). Its not my responsibility to make sure the wait staff is getting enough $$ to pay their bills. I feel the flames licking my back....
 
La2kw said:
Wow, reading this thread was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. How pathetic that this thread was hijacked by the "tipping police" and the "header accuracy" squad. I was enjoying the description of dining on a budget until all the stupid comments about checking proper tipping amounts, why her header was misleading, and remarks about why TS restaurants are better than CS restaurants. Now the OP has fled their own thread (which was intended to help others) because of all the criticisms made in response to her OP.
Just pathetic. :sad2:

They are free to disagree. You are free to disagree with them, but there's no need to name call. Comments you disagree with are not "stupid".
 

Here's the funny thing about debates on the DIS--the Debate Board was deleted a few years back, I presume because the powers that be no longer wanted debates on the DIS. However, nowadays, debates are as prevalent as ever--they're just spread out amongst all of the boards. I much preferred it when debates existed solely on the Debate Board. It seemed to make for a much friendlier environment!!!
 
La2kw said:
Wow, reading this thread was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. How pathetic that this thread was hijacked by the "tipping police" and the "header accuracy" squad. I was enjoying the description of dining on a budget until all the stupid comments about checking proper tipping amounts, why her header was misleading, and remarks about why TS restaurants are better than CS restaurants. Now the OP has fled their own thread (which was intended to help others) because of all the criticisms made in response to her OP.
Just pathetic. :sad2:

ITA

I don't understand why people can't just read the thread for what it is. The OP did not ask for comments regarding how she tips. She started a thread to inform people as to how she and her family ate without doing the DDP. If I want to know about how much to tip I will go to a thread which talks about tipping etiquette!
 
catherine - The problem with this line of thinking is that it forgets that this is an "Information" board first and foremost. People come here to get valuable information such as: money saving tips, reviews, etc. to use for their own families. If people just solely read threads, then tons of questions would come from that as people may be confused or need clarification on certain issues. There is no way if I were a first time visitor to Disney after reading menus on the Internet and knowing how much food costs there, would I not have had questions for the OP if she had only posted minimal information; therefore, it's bound to happen with the information that she posted.

As has already been explained multiple times on this thread, some of us who have been on these boards a long time really want the information that comes across to be as understandable as possible - I'm not saying the OP didn't do this, but questions came up, as they frequently do. The OP posted her thread title in such a way that she was advertising to people that they could eat on $75.00 per day as she did, and she posted how she did this, but left out certain details along the way. Although she gave very extensive dining lists with prices included, she didn't mention until after (which is understandable to have questions as this is an 'information' board after all) that she pooled tips, maybe had tipped lower on some meals, etc. Now, granted some people on here may have picked on her meal choices or judged her tipping in a personal way, and that is not acceptable in my opinion as the OP didn't ask for comments, BUT, by the very nature of her thread title, she marketed this thread in this manner. This is why many of us pointed out, in a nice way, for families who would be using this thread to plan out their own meals, that perhaps the $75.00 per day figure may need to be a bit higher for them if counting all of the other variables that led her to be able to keep within her food budget.

Regardless of whether people agree with her food choices or tipping amounts, that shouldn't have been the issue, but, it came up due to the nature of her thread title. Many of us regulars know that we can eat in WDW for $75.00/day doing the same things that she did (it's not rocket science), and so for many of us, we weren't reading this post to gather new knowledge, but many posters surely did - just look at the thread count and you can see that!

The OP chose to leave her own thread because she felt attacked, insulted, etc. and that always makes me sad as I have felt the same way in the past here on the DIS, but in all honesty, these types of subjects are going to do that and so if people are that sensitive about things, then perhaps posting on the Internet's premiere source of Disney information is not the best place to do that. Am I saying that I don't believe her, or that she tipped too little? That's not my place to say as I don't feed her family, and frankly, it's not my business, but, as a regular vacationer to Disney, I think it's important that we help others understand the 'Disney' way of doing things - if that means asking questions or analyzing dining reviews, then so be it. Since she posted this information, she gave permission for people to ask questions or for clarification on amounts. It doesn't mean that people should be personally attacked, but again, what is a personal attack to me, may not be a personal attack to someone else. Life is all about differing perceptions!

I do hope the OP has realized that strangers whom she has had minimal contact with on the Internet should not have this much power over how she feels about the situation - granted her feelings may have been hurt, but you open yourself up to that when you post on a public board as people only have the text in front of them in which to understand your message.

Tiger
 
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newnana said:
My family eats extremely well at home, but they would turn ferral on me if I made them eat at sit down places all the time in WDW. Yes we enjoy a few sit down meals but most of our meals at WDW are grab and run. This is a theme park, we love it, and we want to see shows and ride the rides. I love the OP's ideas and I salute her for them. As for tipping, I've been a waitress on and off in my 44 years, I received what I earned, sometimes great tips and sometimes .02 (and I deserved it). Because of my experience I never feel its necessary to tip bad service. If I received mediocre service its 10%, good service 15% and great service (and I must admit, I have seen alot of great service in my day) its 20%, and if your having a bad day and giving me bad service its .02 ( I've done this probably about 3/4 times, and did not feel bad about doing so). Its not my responsibility to make sure the wait staff is getting enough $$ to pay their bills. I feel the flames licking my back....


Really, so every bad or no tip you ever recieved was because of your poor service? You were never stiffed for no apparant reason at all? Wow, you're really lucky because that was never my experience or the experience of any other server I have ever known or worked with. Yes, sometimes I was unable to give good service for whatever reason and I deserved a bad tip. Othertimes. I gave outstanding service and recieived little or nothing. Sometimes, people are just plain cheap.

So, because of my expereinces, unless I get a snotty attitude from a server, I always tip around 20% to make up for the cheap people.
 
Snow_White said:
Here's the funny thing about debates on the DIS--the Debate Board was deleted a few years back, I presume because the powers that be no longer wanted debates on the DIS. However, nowadays, debates are as prevalent as ever--they're just spread out amongst all of the boards. I much preferred it when debates existed solely on the Debate Board. It seemed to make for a much friendlier environment!!!

Well I am not debating you...;) but, as long as there are discussion boards there are going to be debates on them. Not everyone is going to view things the same. Granted I believe it best to keep things civil, but debates are just part of life.
 
Tiger926 said:
catherine - The problem with this line of thinking is that it forgets that this is an "Information" board first and foremost. People come here to get valuable information such as: money saving tips, reviews, etc. to use for their own families. If people just solely read threads, then tons of questions would come from that as people may be confused or need clarification on certain issues. There is no way if I were a first time visitor to Disney after reading menus on the Internet and knowing how much food costs there, would I not have had questions for the OP if she had only posted minimal information; therefore, it's bound to happen with the information that she posted.

As has already been explained multiple times on this thread, some of us who have been on these boards a long time really want the information that comes across to be as understandable as possible - I'm not saying the OP didn't do this, but questions came us, as they frequently do. The OP posted her thread title in such a way that she was advertising to people that they could eat on $75.00 per day as she did, and she posted how she did this, but left out certain details along the way. Although she gave very extensive dining lists with prices included, she didn't mention until after (which is understandable to have questions as this is an 'information' board after all) that she pooled tips, maybe had tipped lower on some meals, etc. Now, granted some people on here may have picked on her meal choices or judged her tipping in a personal way, and that is not acceptable in my opinion as the OP didn't ask for comments, BUT, by the very nature of her thread title, she marketed this thread in this manner. This is why many of us pointed out, in a nice way, for families who would be using this thread to plan out their own meals, that perhas the $75.00 per day figure may need to be a bit higher for them if couting all of the other variables that led her to be able to keep within her food budget.

Regardless of whether people agree with her food choices or tipping amounts, that shouldn't have been the issue, but, it came up due to the nature of her thread title. Many of us regulars know that we can eat in WDW for $75.00/day doing the same things that she did (it's not rocket science), and so for many of us, we weren't reading this post to gather new knowledge, but many posters surely did - just look at the thread count and you can see that!

The OP chose to leave her own thread because she felt attacked, insulted, etc. and that always makes me sad as I have felt the same way in the past here on the DIS, but in all honesty, these types of subjects are going to do that and so if people are that sensitive about things, then perhaps posting on the Internet's premiere source of Disney information is not the best place to do that. Am I saying that I don't believe her, or that she tipped too little? That's not my place to say as I don't feed her family, and frankly, it's not my business, but, as a regular vacationer to Disney, I think it's important that we help others understand the 'Disney' way of doing things - if that means asking questions or analyzing dining reviews, then so be it. Since she posted this information, she gave permission for people to ask questions or for clarification on amounts. It doesn't mean that people should be personally attacked, but again, what is a personal attack to me, may not be a personal attack to someone else. Life is all about differing perceptions!

I do hope the OP has realized that strangers whom she has had contact with on the Internet should not have this much power over how she feels about the situation - granted her feelings may have been hurt, but you open yourself up to that when you post on a public board as people only have the text in front of them in which to understand your message.

Tiger

Very well said!! :woohoo:
 
missmun52 said:
Sometimes you are only able to leave what you can. If i dont have lots of money and can only leave like 4-5 dollars i think thats better than leaving noting at all.

Then don't go there! This is very rude not only to the server but other patrons.
 
It is not rude to anybody when you leave a small tip. The tip is extra. I have worked in restaruants my entire life until recently. If you are somplace where the waitress makes half of minimum wage then yes, the tip is more important however at Disney they make the same as anybody else so the tip is just icing. I am sorrry but I am going to go on vacation as much as I can and if someone else doesnt get as much tip as somepeople think they should, I am not going to worry about it. I am friendly and easy to wait on, that is what is important in my book. Also all you tip police do you think at all about the cooks? I have cooked at most of my jobs and made the same per hour as the waitresses then they make $20 an hour in tips on top.

Don't dare tell me I shouldn't go someplace because I can't afford a huge tip.


Also Great post to the original poster, I like to see how people do.
 
mejo said:
It is not rude to anybody when you leave a small tip. The tip is extra. I have worked in restaruants my entire life until recently. If you are somplace where the waitress makes half of minimum wage then yes, the tip is more important however at Disney they make the same as anybody else so the tip is just icing. I am sorrry but I am going to go on vacation as much as I can and if someone else doesnt get as much tip as somepeople think they should, I am not going to worry about it. I am friendly and easy to wait on, that is what is important in my book. Also all you tip police do you think at all about the cooks? I have cooked at most of my jobs and made the same per hour as the waitresses then they make $20 an hour in tips on top.

Don't dare tell me I shouldn't go someplace because I can't afford a huge tip.


Also Great post to the original poster, I like to see how people do.


Don't go someplace if you can't afford to tip.
 
I think the owners and managers of those establishments would much rather have me as a customer. As far as that goes the waitresses would rather have me too, without customers, they are out of a job.
 
I normally avoid these threads where everyone is arguing, but you are arguing over tips? :rolleyes: All the OP wanted to let us know how they ate on $75 a day. I think it is great that you can budget like that! Glad you had a great time. We plan to! :cool1:
 
mejo said:
I think the owners and managers of those establishments would much rather have me as a customer. As far as that goes the waitresses would rather have me too, without customers, they are out of a job.
There is no possible way you could be serious about this comment.
Do you honestly think that a server likes to have ANY customer that doesn't tip???
I can tell you, without a doubt, you are 100% wrong! You could be Celine Dion, and if you don't leave a tip for good/satisfactory service, I could care less who you are or how nice you think you are.


Also, BTW, without tips, they are without a living so the job really doesn't matter now does it???
 
Todd&Copper said:
I am guessing that is when it occurred, too. I follow the 15%/20% convention now, but I remember my parents talking about tips when I was a teen and 15% was considered generous. Maybe some people still follow the 10/15% conventions and don't know about the newer rules?


They are not rules, they are suggestions. When a family of 4 has a $60 bill, not every waitress should get a $12 tip.
 
married@wdw said:
You only left a $4 tip at Planet Hollywood?!? Ouch! That's less than 10% of your bill. I would have left at least $8 -- waitstaff work hard and deserve 20% IMHO.

You have probably never eaten at Planet Hollywood. IMHO they don't work too hard there. (If I have to HUNT you down for the bill half an hour after I finish.. never mind no beverage refills or checking on us after you threw the food on the table) you are doing good to get 10%..... I have given PH several opportunities at resturants all over the country. Just LOUSY service consistenly so I marked them off the list.

It's called tipping for SERVICE... Service must be rendered to earn a tip. A lot of folks today seem to think that 15 to 20% is automatic and the service they provide reflects it!

But of course this thread has deteriorated into what the DIS does best... the "I am holier then thou" thread... :rotfl2: Poor OP, last year some posters apparently felt that based on ONE week they could TELL her that her kids were malnourished. This year it's a tip. If I were here I would RUN far away from us.....
 
I think there's something really wrong with a culture of being required to tip for service whether the service is good or not.

People keep talking about the low wages of wait staff and how they rely on tips to survive. If that's the case isn't that what everyone should be getting worked up about? Shouldn't you all be putting your energies into being disgusted that there is no decent minimum wage and that the waiting staff are effectively underpaid by their employers rather than getting angry with not-well-off members of the public who received bad service?

If I got bad service I would leave a small tip. There have been occasions (very rare) when I haven't tipped at all. If the tip is an integral part of their wage it should be paid by the employers and, if necessary, reflected in the food prices (I don't think that is neccessary at Disney as prices are high enough already).
 
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