WDW vet fears he is too lazy in planning for first visit to DL/DCA

Everybody has different things they like and don't like. After years of WDW and a recent trip to DL here is what we liked:
The fireworks and parades are worth seeing, I loved seeing Dumbo and TinkerBell fly around. Not just a zipline.
Mickey and the Magical Map, we sat in the front row and all the characters interacted with my daughter. It was great!
My daughter liked Fantasmic, but it was just OK for me.
The street entertainment at DCA was worth watching
Rapunzel and Beauty and the Beast were fun, on Saturday night they have Dancing and big band musics-fun!
The castle self tour was great!
Breakfast at the Plaza Inn, lots of characters.

Have fun!
 
jumping in to say thanks for much to OP for starting this thread! Headed to DLR for one week in Sept. I was there once for 1 1/2 days in 2010. This is a bucket list trip for me and my BFF dis friend. We are AP holders at WDW and fly down there 4+ times a year. I am very much looking forward to the CA laid back style but understand the need for a basic "plan" Seems like I am on the right track. I created a google doc/spreadsheet of all the counter service locations and foods I don't want to miss. lol... I'm booking a Table Service meal for every other day. (BB is our first night) We are in the GCH Vacation Club villas and I believe we have a view of WOC from our room. Hopefully that will help us cross that off our list. I will read through Figment's post now. :) So excited.. keep the good advice coming guys! thanks again! :)
 
My understanding is that Cafe Orleans also offers the Monte Cristo as well but is much less expensive. That being said, is the portion size the same? My sister and I shared the one at Blue Bayou and was wondering if it we could get away with doing the same at Cafe Orleans.

The portion size is the same, but don't count on saving a lot of money at Cafe Orleans. We ate there in Feb 2014, and the prices seem to have gone up considerably. $9.00 for a bowl of french onion soup and I think the Monte Cristo was $17.00. If the prices are the same at both restaurants, you might as well make a reservation for BB and get the atmosphere.

I was happy to read that you could share a Monte Cristo at BB. That's what my daughter and I will be doing on our next trip, which will be the 60th anniversary. We were there for the 35th, and the 50th, and are looking forward to going again on a big day.
 
Ignore the above. I just checked the menu prices at BB and a Monte Cristo is $25.49. Guess Cafe Orleans is a bargain after all.

Sticker shock!!!!
 

so funny, I am feeling the same way about our upcoming trip. Planning WDW trip has burned me out and I just want some one to hand me a plan of attack for our trip. I have read hydro guide and it really helpful. I know it will all workout.
 
The portion size is the same, but don't count on saving a lot of money at Cafe Orleans. We ate there in Feb 2014, and the prices seem to have gone up considerably. $9.00 for a bowl of french onion soup and I think the Monte Cristo was $17.00. If the prices are the same at both restaurants, you might as well make a reservation for BB and get the atmosphere.

I was happy to read that you could share a Monte Cristo at BB. That's what my daughter and I will be doing on our next trip, which will be the 60th anniversary. We were there for the 35th, and the 50th, and are looking forward to going again on a big day.

The Monte Cristo at BB was like $25. And while I was obsessed with eating inside Pirates, I don't know if it was worth it.
 
We ate at Cafe Orleans for the first time last Saturday. We all loved it! We thought the food was much better than the meals we have gotten at Blue Bayou. I had the Monte Cristo and it was great! Oh and as for lack of planning, I got online at 4:30 pm to see if there were any TS available for dinner as suddenly sitting down and ordering off a menu sounded good and got a reservation for Cafe Orleans at 5:40.
 
So I have done a fair amount of perusing this board in an effort to discover how best to experience our inaugural visit to DL/DCA. That includes some wonderfully descriptive accounts of the similarities and differences these parks have with WDW--our "home park" of some 13 annual visits. What I could use now is a tidier, more concise attack plan that will help me best navigate my 3 days there in late July. It's 4 of us--me, DW, DD (22) and DS (16) staying at the GCH Villas. I've not done a good job of distilling down the great tips presented all throughout these threads and the lazy, "I just don't want to think that hard about planning these trips any more" part of me just wants a really down and dirty cheat sheet. My fear is that I've become too complacent, if not downright cocky, about my ability to essentially wing it and make it work. I could be headed for trouble unless a) I get more focused and do the work of authoring a plan or b) one of you just gives me or points me to the best, most concise answers :) thanks in advance for not judging my laziness :)
I haven't read responses yet, so if someone else said this, sorry!

Basically... Just go for it!
I never have planned Disney visits long in advance.
If I want to eat somewhere, I make reservations a day or so out. Yeah, there are a few instances this won't work, but for the most part I have not had a problem with this. (At noon on Mother's Day I was able to get a reservation to eat dinner at Disneyland that night!)
The parks are also much smaller then you are used to. Running from one part of the park to another is extremely easy! Heck, running from one park to another is extremely easy.
I know where you are coming from, I just got back from a Disney World... If you don't plan there, you could be in for an extremely exhausting day. The same isn't as true at Disneyland. You should be fine if you have a rough plan and just go with the flow.

Just remember, go with the flow and not against it. Go with your instincts you gained through your many Disney World trips. The crowd leaving Disneyland after the fireworks is just as massive as the one at the Magic Kingdom is; don't even try to swim upstream. The crowd from Fantasmic to Main Street is horrible too. Remember that it is sometimes more efficient to just relax then try to fight the heard.

Oh, a couple of hints... Get a fastpass for World of Color and there is no seating for Fantasmic, so sit at a restaurant or think of it as a parade and claim your little spot of the floor and be prepared to fight to keep it.
 
It surprised me to hear someone say that there are 105 theme park attractions at WDW and 90 at Disneyland Resort. I guess I had never thought much about it, but it makes sense because Disneyland is a much more densely laid out than any of parks in Florida.

Whether you want a plan of attack is entirely up to your touring style. There are certainly different "tricks" to a high efficiency maximum-E-ticket visit, but your goal might indeed be to turn off your brain and just go with the flow. Either strategy is perfectly fine if it makes you happy.

Personally, I appreciate a more leisurely trip based on spontaneity. If there's any preparation that would give me more enjoyment out of the experience (as a bit of a geek on the subject), it would be to read up on the history of Disneyland and how certain attractions came to be. Disneyland is the only one of his theme parks where Walt Disney personally oversaw. Taking a pause to enjoy the original details is one of the things that makes it so special.
 
I would never judge your laziness! One of the best things about DLR is that it allows laziness! When I go I usually only plan for the following

1: Getting my FP for RSR because there is nooooo way I am waiting in that ride's line. This would be reminiscent of the running for the FPs at HS for TSMM but the line is less bearable without one.

2: Do I want to see WoC? If yes I decide if i'm going to a) get a FP or b)do a WoC dining package. (side note: you may want to go the route of the welcome to disneyland tour which also gives you reserved seating for this link to blog article http://blog.wdwinfo.com/2014/07/07/i-just-spent-20-on-fastpasses-would-you/)

Other than that its very easy to just go with the flow at DL. The parks are smaller in actual size, and there is usually not the horrible humidity in so cal so it makes it more bearable to just wander and do several loops throughout the day. I did want to give you some fun tips about some things that are way diff at WDW IMO.

At DL it is not uncommon to just "run into" characters seemingly at random on main street or in the hub. This is one of my favorite things about DL. I don't know if its scheduled but last time I was there Alice and the Mad Hatter were playing musical chairs with a group of kids and it was hysterical! One time Mary Poppins just sat down with my nephew (4) and just starting chatting w/him.

While many of the staple snacks are similar to the ones at WDW (ie dole whip, mickey bar) there is one MUST HAVE that is a DL specific. That is the Mickey Beignets. They have these either at Cafe Orleans as a dessert option or at the Mint Julep Bar hidden behind the French Market. This is on my to do list every trip :)

Overall: Have fun! Don't plan to much, go with the flow, and enjoy your surroundings! When you have too much planned you forget to stop and smell the roses :hippie:
 
I would never judge your laziness! One of the best things about DLR is that it allows laziness! When I go I usually only plan for the following

1: Getting my FP for RSR because there is nooooo way I am waiting in that ride's line. This would be reminiscent of the running for the FPs at HS for TSMM but the line is less bearable without one.

2: Do I want to see WoC? If yes I decide if i'm going to a) get a FP or b)do a WoC dining package. (side note: you may want to go the route of the welcome to disneyland tour which also gives you reserved seating for this link to blog article http://blog.wdwinfo.com/2014/07/07/i-just-spent-20-on-fastpasses-would-you/)

Other than that its very easy to just go with the flow at DL. The parks are smaller in actual size, and there is usually not the horrible humidity in so cal so it makes it more bearable to just wander and do several loops throughout the day. I did want to give you some fun tips about some things that are way diff at WDW IMO.

At DL it is not uncommon to just "run into" characters seemingly at random on main street or in the hub. This is one of my favorite things about DL. I don't know if its scheduled but last time I was there Alice and the Mad Hatter were playing musical chairs with a group of kids and it was hysterical! One time Mary Poppins just sat down with my nephew (4) and just starting chatting w/him.

While many of the staple snacks are similar to the ones at WDW (ie dole whip, mickey bar) there is one MUST HAVE that is a DL specific. That is the Mickey Beignets. They have these either at Cafe Orleans as a dessert option or at the Mint Julep Bar hidden behind the French Market. This is on my to do list every trip :)

Overall: Have fun! Don't plan to much, go with the flow, and enjoy your surroundings! When you have too much planned you forget to stop and smell the roses :hippie:

Thank you, Drinehart, et al! All of your replies are very helpful and reassuring. We actually leave for California on Saturday, so we are all getting very excited. I fear the week, though, is going to go very S...L...O...W...L..........Y!
 
WDW vet, with a love of both coasts here. Laziness is allowed at DL/CA. Everything is within walking distance at DL, so you don't have to have a set plan of attack. The items you need a plan for are:

1. World of Color
2. Fantasmic
3. Radiator Springs Racers
4. Anna and Elsa (and the best plan for that right now is to skip them if at all possible)
5. A TS meal or two if you so desire (I will say that while we like and book TS meals, that unlike at WDW where I would go nuts after a day of CS, at DL I could happily live on the CS options and the places you can walk up to and get in without a reservation).


If you are remotely into character meals, my favorite TS at DL/CA is Minnie's Breakfast. It beats all the WDW character meals. We do it around 10:00 a.m. and get park time first. The least amount of characters we have seen are 7, and usually we see more. It is not your typical WDW character meal characters either, and you never know who you are going to see- we've seen Rafiki, Hook, Fairy Godmother, Max, Tweedle Dum, Gepetto, Chip and Dale, Minnie, Mad Hatter, Alice, Brer Fox, Mary Poppins Penguin, Pinnochio Eeyore, Pooh, Tigger, Sleeping Beauty, and more I can't remember.

Have a fun trip!

We were there last week, Saturday July 12 to Wednesday afternoon July 16. Here is an update on the above planning items.

1. WOC- we did the dining package last Monday. We did feel that with them cutting it to one show per night this summer, that people lined up a little earlier, even with the dining package. We usually just walk into the area 45 minutes to an hour before the show and grab a spot on the rail in the wet zone. This time we walked by and there was a pretty good line an hour and 15 minutes before the show, so we got in it. We got our front row rail spot in the wet zone easily, but I do not think we would have gotten it had we gotten there just 45 minutes before like we have in the past. I would say it seemed like things were going about 15 minutes earlier than we have seen, which I'm sure is people getting there a little early because they are worried about the crowds with only being one show. The dining area was not as crowded as we have had it previously though (we are usually there the first week in June). There actually was room to move around a little. The show was fantastic as always.

2. We splurged and did the Fantasmic dessert package, so I can't tell you about the recent planning and wait outside of that. We loved the dessert package. On a sad note, Dumbo did not fly during the fireworks on Sunday July 13. We went back to catch the fireworks from the front of the castle on Tuesday night, and again Dumbo did not fly. Bummer as there is no flying Dumbo at WDW, so that is the part I look forward to most.

3. We did this several times and only used a FP once. DD is 8, so we can all use the single rider line. We kept an eye on the wait times app on the single rider waits, and caught it multiple times when the wait was only 10 minutes. The longest we waited was 20 minutes, which was the first day as we did not arrive in time to get a fast pass and really wanted to ride it that night after dark. The fast passes seemed to be running out around 12:30 or 1:00 most days.

4. Making the run was easier than I expected. We did it Monday morning for regular hours, thinking if we didn't make it that we would try again during early hours the next day. DH got to the park a few minutes after 7 and was the first person at one of the gates. DD and I arrived just after 7:30 and were only a few people behind him. Once the opened the gates, DH booked it down to the castle (go to your left- the side closest to adventureland etc.). DD and I did a fast walk and we were not far behind him at all. They have been doing a line up behind a CM, but our morning they did not. A guest, that everyone thought was a CM, was holding up an "Anna and Elsa line starts here sign", so people were lining up behind him. A CM came out and advised that there was not going to be any organized line that day, so the crowd got irritated at the guest who they thought was a CM and he put his sign away. Everyone spread out along the rope to make the run. DH, DD and I were all at the front of the rope. They drop the rope (at least our day) from the inner side which a CM told DH so we knew right where to stand. When the rope dropped everyone raced to the meet and greet. DH could have been first in line, but he decided to let a few of the running dads in front of him as DD and I were not going to run. DD and I did a pretty fast walk, and even doing that we will would have been probably one of the first 10 groups in line. DH was about 3rd or 4th. Unfortunately, Anna started out by herself (the previous morning, it had been Anna and Elsa together we heard from another guest who had done the run). We just stood back and let people go in front of us. We hear that she usually comes out either 30 minutes or an hour after Anna if she is not there at opening. Unfortunately for us, it was an hour, but we stuck it out as DD wanted to meet both of them and we weren't doing it again. If we had not waited for Elsa, we would have been in line probably for 5 minutes. I would say that most people that were there before rope drop and even just walked to the meet and greet did not have much of a wait. It was a low crowd park day, and the line didn't really build up for about half an hour. It was an hour or even less for at least the first half hour the park was open. Not too long after that, it hit 2 hours and hovered there the rest of the day. It was a lot easier than I expected (other than having to wait for Elsa, which we knew was a possibility), so I guess we just hit it on the right day maybe.

5. Cafe Orleans was great. I know it gets mixed reviews, but we enjoyed the Wine Country Trattoria for the WOC dinner. Goofy's kitchen was the same as always and fun. For the first time, Minnies, which is usually our absolute favorite, was the disappointment. We did it Monday morning after Anna and Elsa. We saw the least amount of characters we ever have at Minnies. I think we only saw 5 which the same amount as the standard WDW meal- Minnie, Hook, Pooh, Tigger, and Fairy Godmother. Before that the lowest number we saw was 7, and usually it is even more more (our max was 12). Max was not there for the first time in the 5 summers we have gone there. They also were very slow at filling up buffet items. Things were running out and they weren't getting them replaced. We would have to sit for 10 minutes and watch and run up when something got replaced, becuase it would not last long as everyone was waiting. It seemed like they were really short staffed that day. I'm hoping we just caught it on an off day, because usually it is our absolute favorite. As far as TS reservations, we had most of ours ahead of time, but Saturday night (our arrival day), we decided we wanted TS and I got online at abouyt 4:30 p.m. and we actually had several choices still. We picked Cafe Orleans at 5:40 and were glad we did!


The only thing that was a bit irritating, is that we kept an eye out for Sleeping Beauty for 5 days and never saw her. She has a castle there, so you think she would show up regularly! She wasn't at Ariel's and we checked at Fantasy Faire every day she was never there when we checked! Same thing happened last year too. She isn't DD's favorite, so it isn't a big deal, but DD always asks about finding her since her castle is there.


Have a great trip!
 
Thank you, Drinehart, et al! All of your replies are very helpful and reassuring. We actually leave for California on Saturday, so we are all getting very excited. I fear the week, though, is going to go very S...L...O...W...L..........Y!

I would even add to Drinehart's wonderful observations with this one:

You know all those times you wished, just wished, that for just one day you wouldn't have to wade through crowds seeming almost exclusively to be made of up frenzied, once-in-a-lifetime, large group of visitors at WDW? Even on its most crowded day, that vibe just doesn't exist at DLR. DLR locals like to savor things. Commando touring has its place. But going with the flow is the norm. Have a great trip!

:thumbsup2
 
We were there last week, Saturday July 12 to Wednesday afternoon July 16.

1. WOC- we did the dining package last Monday. We did feel that with them cutting it to one show per night this summer, that people lined up a little earlier, even with the dining package. We usually just walk into the area 45 minutes to an hour before the show and grab a spot on the rail in the wet zone. This time we walked by and there was a pretty good line an hour and 15 minutes before the show, so we got in it. We got our front row rail spot in the wet zone easily, but I do not think we would have gotten it had we gotten there just 45 minutes before like we have in the past. I would say it seemed like things were going about 15 minutes earlier than we have seen, which I'm sure is people getting there a little early because they are worried about the crowds with only being one show. The dining area was not as crowded as we have had it previously though (we are usually there the first week in June). There actually was room to move around a little. The show was fantastic as always.

Thanks for the great additional comments here. So are you recommending the Dinner Package as the preferred method for securing a great viewing spot for WOC? Or is that not necessarily true? If you do opt for the dinner package, what time do you need to have the reservation for to have a fighting chance? TIA!
 
We were there last week, Saturday July 12 to Wednesday afternoon July 16.

1. WOC- we did the dining package last Monday. We did feel that with them cutting it to one show per night this summer, that people lined up a little earlier, even with the dining package. We usually just walk into the area 45 minutes to an hour before the show and grab a spot on the rail in the wet zone. This time we walked by and there was a pretty good line an hour and 15 minutes before the show, so we got in it. We got our front row rail spot in the wet zone easily, but I do not think we would have gotten it had we gotten there just 45 minutes before like we have in the past. I would say it seemed like things were going about 15 minutes earlier than we have seen, which I'm sure is people getting there a little early because they are worried about the crowds with only being one show. The dining area was not as crowded as we have had it previously though (we are usually there the first week in June). There actually was room to move around a little. The show was fantastic as always.

Thanks for the great additional comments here. So are you recommending the Dinner Package as the preferred method for securing a great viewing spot for WOC? Or is that not necessarily true? If you do opt for the dinner package, what time do you need to have the reservation for to have a fighting chance? TIA!

If you are going to do a TS dinner anyway, you might as well do the dinner package. For us, we really like being at the rail in the wet zone in the preferred dining area. We did dinner at 5:30. The show was at 9:45 and we jumped in the line at 8:30 because it seemed to be getting fairly long, so you could easily do a 6:00 p.m. or 6:30 p.m. dinner and still have plenty of time. We rode rides between dinner and WOC. We were the first ones down in the wet zone when they let everyone in at around 8:45, and there were plenty of good spots left behind us in the non-wet zone, but they did fill up pretty fast. Just don't believe your server when they tell you that you don't need to show up that early and you should be fine getting there at 9:20 or so- unless you are really tall. They tell us that every year and it just isn't the case if you are on the shorter end or have non-adult height kids.

You can secure a great viewing spot for WOC without the dinner package, but I think you will have to line up a little earlier. With there being one show instead of 2 this summer, it seemed like people did line up earlier than usual. You can probably look at the WOC superthread to get some good ideas on that. I will say that if you are not worried about a little water, that the wet zone does fill up a little slower than the other areas, and if you are short like me, or have kids- those front rail spots are great. To us, it is well worth a little mist and wet to have a totally unobstructed view. We brought the $1 ponchos from Wal-mart this time. DD and I used ours, but DH didn't. He got wet, but even though you feel like you are really getting wet, it is more of a mist and dries really quickly after the show. Since we were in July instead of June this year and it was a little warmer, we really didn't need the ponchos as it wasn't chilly, but we remember to bring some for the first time ever, so I used them. I took more pictures with the poncho on because I could cover the camera really quick with the sleeve when mist came our way, so that was nice I also keep a big Ziplock bag folded in my purse (you can find them at Wal-mart), and I pull it out and put my purse inside of it just in case (probably not wet enough to matter at WOC, but I use a Vera Bradley cloth purse at Disney, so the water will soak through if it gets too wet) The ziplock bag trick works well for water rides as well- to protect purses, phones, stuffed animals etc. It is also great to cart wet or damp swimsuits home in your suitcase at the end of your trip.
 
Thanks for the great additional comments here. So are you recommending the Dinner Package as the preferred method for securing a great viewing spot for WOC? Or is that not necessarily true? If you do opt for the dinner package, what time do you need to have the reservation for to have a fighting chance? TIA!

Not true. See the WOC Superthread on my signature line for more info.

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