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Alaska is a go for me, sure hope it is for you too :goodvibes Unfortunately Ian's for Thanksgiving is a no-go :sad1:


Hi all :grouphug:

Haven't had a chance to get caught up yet. Hope everyone is well :hug:

Been busy here. I am currently negotiating for a new car :rolleyes: Hate it! My car is dying a slow death, so I need to decide whether to invest in repairs or bite the bullet and buy a new one. My car is a 1997 and has been a great car...but I think the time has come...

I HATE the barter system. I HATE to barter back and forth over prices:mad:

I also had a plumber out this week to fix a few minor problems, only to find that I have a crack in my toilet tank which apparently could cause a disaster if it happens to crack further and my water is turned on and I'm not at home :scared1:

I've had to give up on a number of things...so have decided that Alaska will NOT be one of them :)

Michelle :yay: Will you "fix" my Oct dates please :flower3: I will actually be arriving on Oct 15th and returning home on Oct 25th . Thanks :hug:


Hugs to you about the car Kathe.

You know, you feisty broad, we're going to miss you in these parts at American Thanksgiving.

(Notice that you've been promoted to broad).
 
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My second brother is on the phone right now having a fit over my father's burial... said he wasn't notified... (I did that on purpose cause he said at Easter that he didn't care what I did...) He's screaming and yelling at both me and mom... (you don't scream at mom...)

I guess this means that Mom's not going to Cape Cod this summer...

& I guess I don't have to go to Timmy's house for holidays anymore...

I imagine what is getting him most is that I didn't really have much of a relationship with my father... AND it would have cost him $450 to do it...

Oh well... I did what I did... I fulfilled my father's wishes.

I never did anything right in Timmy's eyes about my dad anyway... :sad2:

You did the right thing. Tell him to hush up.
 
SSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

My second brother is on the phone right now having a fit over my father's burial... said he wasn't notified... (I did that on purpose cause he said at Easter that he didn't care what I did...) He's screaming and yelling at both me and mom... (you don't scream at mom...)

I guess this means that Mom's not going to Cape Cod this summer...

& I guess I don't have to go to Timmy's house for holidays anymore...

I imagine what is getting him most is that I didn't really have much of a relationship with my father... AND it would have cost him $450 to do it...

Oh well... I did what I did... I fulfilled my father's wishes.

I never did anything right in Timmy's eyes about my dad anyway... :sad2:
:hug: All that matters is that you did what your dad wanted. :hug:
 
My first cousin Shlomo called me today. All of my family is in NY, except for my sister who is in Texas.

He started the conversation by telling me that he didn't go to our first cousin Judy's unveiling today. "Unveiling?" I said. "I didn't know that she died."

He said, "She had lung cancer."

I said, "Nobody told me she had cancer."

It was quite a surprise. She contracted cancer 4 years ago and no one told me. She must have died at least 8 months ago (if the unveiling was today, the soonest it can be is about 8-months) and no one told me.

I know I'm not the most familial person, but I would have thought that someone would have told me that my first cousin died.

I called my sister to tell her. Nobody had told her either. Judy was either 8-months older or younger than my sister. I think 8-months older.

I'm not offended at not being told. After all, everyone had more on their minds than me, and I am pretty distant from the family. But as I told Shlomo, even though I'm distant, blood is blood. I do care.

It's so sad. In the age order, Judy was near the top of the age range for the first cousins. I'm second from the bottom.

You know, I just realized that my parents fated me to be different from the rest of the family, espcially when I think of the names:

Manny, Judy, Sherman, Leah, Shlomo, Helene ...... What kind of name is Ian for a Jewish boy from Brooklyn?

Any hoo, it does sadden me, that the first of the first cousins has passed away. Judy was terribly sweet in her way.

I do have a very nice story about Judy. As you may or may not know, Jews name babies after the deceased (never the living).

When I was born, there was no one to name me after. Everyone who had passed away had been named.

My mother always liked my aunt Esther's father, Judy's grandfather. She thought he was a sweet, gentle and kind man. He died right before I was born. My mother thought that it was a shame that he was unnamed, and so, my parents gave me the Hebrew name of Yitzchak or Isaac in English. My mother thought that Esther's father, Judy's grandfather was too sweet a man to go unnamed. I was named after a very nice man, even though he was not a blood relative.

A couple days before my mother died gave birth to a little girl. My mother died and would be unnamed because there would be no children from either my sister or I to name them after her. Judy's daughter named their little girl after my mother, and carries her Hebrew name, Rachel. It was really a kindness and completed a circle in that I was named after Judy's grandfather, and Judy's grand daughter was named after my mother.

Kindness has a habit of coming full circle, doesn't it?

We actually have a pray to say when one hears that someone has died:

"Baruch dayan ha'emet"

Which translated into English means, "Blessed is the Judge of truth."
 

:hug: Ian, that's really crappy that nobody told you or your sister about Judy's passing. But I like the names story, neat how things came full circle. I never knew that about Jews naming babies after the deceased. I've learned so many things about the Jewish culture from your posts and always enjoy reading these things. :goodvibes
 
Hi folks!

Ian - nice story about the family name circle.

Michelle - Timmy is a jerkwad, don't let him get you down.

Happy belated birthday to Marilyn's John.
 
:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

You did the right thing Michelle :hug:

Thanks Kathe... I think so...

NO self deprecating ever! (That's a Joan Crawford quote).

Your cake is charming.

How did it taste? :rolleyes: that's all that really counts...

Hugs to you about the car Kathe.

You know, you feisty broad, we're going to miss you in these parts at American Thanksgiving.

(Notice that you've been promoted to broad).

You did the right thing. Tell him to hush up.

He hasn't called back since I hung up on him the second time. I'm not upset that he's mad... I just wish he didn't yell like a 5 year old at my mother...

:hug: All that matters is that you did what your dad wanted. :hug:

That's what's keeping me ok with the decision. :hug:

My first cousin Shlomo called me today. All of my family is in NY, except for my sister who is in Texas.

He started the conversation by telling me that he didn't go to our first cousin Judy's unveiling today. "Unveiling?" I said. "I didn't know that she died."

He said, "She had lung cancer."

I said, "Nobody told me she had cancer."

It was quite a surprise. She contracted cancer 4 years ago and no one told me. She must have died at least 8 months ago (if the unveiling was today, the soonest it can be is about 8-months) and no one told me.

I know I'm not the most familial person, but I would have thought that someone would have told me that my first cousin died.

I called my sister to tell her. Nobody had told her either. Judy was either 8-months older or younger than my sister. I think 8-months older.

I'm not offended at not being told. After all, everyone had more on their minds than me, and I am pretty distant from the family. But as I told Shlomo, even though I'm distant, blood is blood. I do care.

It's so sad. In the age order, Judy was near the top of the age range for the first cousins. I'm second from the bottom.

You know, I just realized that my parents fated me to be different from the rest of the family, espcially when I think of the names:

Manny, Judy, Sherman, Leah, Shlomo, Helene ...... What kind of name is Ian for a Jewish boy from Brooklyn?

Any hoo, it does sadden me, that the first of the first cousins has passed away. Judy was terribly sweet in her way.

I do have a very nice story about Judy. As you may or may not know, Jews name babies after the deceased (never the living).

When I was born, there was no one to name me after. Everyone who had passed away had been named.

My mother always liked my aunt Esther's father, Judy's grandfather. She thought he was a sweet, gentle and kind man. He died right before I was born. My mother thought that it was a shame that he was unnamed, and so, my parents gave me the Hebrew name of Yitzchak or Isaac in English. My mother thought that Esther's father, Judy's grandfather was too sweet a man to go unnamed. I was named after a very nice man, even though he was not a blood relative.

A couple days before my mother died gave birth to a little girl. My mother died and would be unnamed because there would be no children from either my sister or I to name them after her. Judy's daughter named their little girl after my mother, and carries her Hebrew name, Rachel. It was really a kindness and completed a circle in that I was named after Judy's grandfather, and Judy's grand daughter was named after my mother.

Kindness has a habit of coming full circle, doesn't it?

We actually have a pray to say when one hears that someone has died:

"Baruch dayan ha'emet"

Which translated into English means, "Blessed is the Judge of truth."

So sorry about Judy... it's always tough when someone goes.

I would have sent my brother over to handle this, but you seem to deal with things better than he does. :hug: :hug:
 
Hi folks!

Ian - nice story about the family name circle.

Michelle - Timmy is a jerkwad, don't let him get you down.

Happy belated birthday to Marilyn's John.

Shannon... I wonder if I could get a t-shirt made with that... :rotfl:
 
Ian... thanks for explaining about the names... I carry my mom's name as a middle name so I guess we're good...

Since you insist that your real parents are the one's with the Rolls... than maybe you got Ian from their side of the family... you know... did you check the note that was left with you on the doorstep?
 
Ok... so I'm going to admit something...

I've always felt like the black sheep of the family.

You know.. the one that didn't do great in school

Never seemed to fit in (I was the youngest)

Still can't do anything right...

Didn't get along with Dad (except that I tried more times than they think I did to have a relationship with him...)

I'm overweight

My bedrooms a mess

I don't have a "job"...

Have been told I'm worthless... (that was Timmy again... any suggestions for the back of the T-shirt...)


You know what it's like to go to a family dinner and even when there is a dead silent moment and you say something and nobody hears it?

I sometimes feel like BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ing... (try it outloud... it's a good stress reliever...)

I sort of grew up a loner. And very shy and quiet... which you would never guess by now... Nobody thought I was funny. I'm not sure they knew I was there.

Oh wellllll....

Back to talking about Alaska... (and yes Ian... I WILL book...)
 
& btw... I told my brother he owes my sister $1800 for my father's memorial and burial... (we got handed the bill and my sister paid for it...)

Then I hung up on him...
 
I also enjoy the WDW "Bump into Marilyn and John in Fantasyland and Have a Lovely Chat" event!

We should bump into each other again someday!!!!!!!

I forgot to post it...sorry....

Here it is...my 1st attempt at decorating a cake....no falling off the chairs laughing, please :upsidedow

1stcake.jpg

Well, I couldn't do it so no laughing from me. Though it does rather remind me of 'Fishy night'!!!;):lmao: It must be firmly embedded in your subconscious.:rotfl2:

I still think we should just do it all on our own and not join in on the other group... Come on.. .there ARE enough of us and we can do our own lanyards and such... I think we should definately be... :snooty: :snooty: :snooty:




My second brother is on the phone right now having a fit over my father's burial... said he wasn't notified... (I did that on purpose cause he said at Easter that he didn't care what I did...) He's screaming and yelling at both me and mom... (you don't scream at mom...)

I guess this means that Mom's not going to Cape Cod this summer...

& I guess I don't have to go to Timmy's house for holidays anymore...

I imagine what is getting him most is that I didn't really have much of a relationship with my father... AND it would have cost him $450 to do it...

Oh well... I did what I did... I fulfilled my father's wishes.

I never did anything right in Timmy's eyes about my dad anyway... :sad2:

You did what was good and right Michelle, and you are the better person!!! You should:snooty: at your brother for now!!!

Oh, and as far as lanyards for the alaska cruise go, you all know each other, so you don't need a lanyard to help recognise everyone!!!:rotfl:

My first cousin Shlomo called me today. All of my family is in NY, except for my sister who is in Texas.

He started the conversation by telling me that he didn't go to our first cousin Judy's unveiling today. "Unveiling?" I said. "I didn't know that she died."

He said, "She had lung cancer."

I said, "Nobody told me she had cancer."

It was quite a surprise. She contracted cancer 4 years ago and no one told me. She must have died at least 8 months ago (if the unveiling was today, the soonest it can be is about 8-months) and no one told me.

I know I'm not the most familial person, but I would have thought that someone would have told me that my first cousin died.

I called my sister to tell her. Nobody had told her either. Judy was either 8-months older or younger than my sister. I think 8-months older.

I'm not offended at not being told. After all, everyone had more on their minds than me, and I am pretty distant from the family. But as I told Shlomo, even though I'm distant, blood is blood. I do care.

It's so sad. In the age order, Judy was near the top of the age range for the first cousins. I'm second from the bottom.

You know, I just realized that my parents fated me to be different from the rest of the family, espcially when I think of the names:

Manny, Judy, Sherman, Leah, Shlomo, Helene ...... What kind of name is Ian for a Jewish boy from Brooklyn?

Any hoo, it does sadden me, that the first of the first cousins has passed away. Judy was terribly sweet in her way.

I do have a very nice story about Judy. As you may or may not know, Jews name babies after the deceased (never the living).

When I was born, there was no one to name me after. Everyone who had passed away had been named.

My mother always liked my aunt Esther's father, Judy's grandfather. She thought he was a sweet, gentle and kind man. He died right before I was born. My mother thought that it was a shame that he was unnamed, and so, my parents gave me the Hebrew name of Yitzchak or Isaac in English. My mother thought that Esther's father, Judy's grandfather was too sweet a man to go unnamed. I was named after a very nice man, even though he was not a blood relative.

A couple days before my mother died gave birth to a little girl. My mother died and would be unnamed because there would be no children from either my sister or I to name them after her. Judy's daughter named their little girl after my mother, and carries her Hebrew name, Rachel. It was really a kindness and completed a circle in that I was named after Judy's grandfather, and Judy's grand daughter was named after my mother.

Kindness has a habit of coming full circle, doesn't it?

We actually have a pray to say when one hears that someone has died:

"Baruch dayan ha'emet"

Which translated into English means, "Blessed is the Judge of truth."

Thanks for the explanation on names Ian. so you are really Isaac?(Yitzchak) I agree Ian doesn't sound Jewish. I believe it is Scottish for John, and that isn't Jewish at all.

It is a shame about your cousin. I don't think i will hear about my cousins deaths either. Some families are like that I think. We never meet up.

Ok... so I'm going to admit something...

I've always felt like the black sheep of the family.

You know.. the one that didn't do great in school

Never seemed to fit in (I was the youngest)

Still can't do anything right...

Didn't get along with Dad (except that I tried more times than they think I did to have a relationship with him...)

I'm overweight

My bedrooms a mess

I don't have a "job"...

Have been told I'm worthless... (that was Timmy again... any suggestions for the back of the T-shirt...)


You know what it's like to go to a family dinner and even when there is a dead silent moment and you say something and nobody hears it?

I sometimes feel like BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ing... (try it outloud... it's a good stress reliever...)

I sort of grew up a loner. And very shy and quiet... which you would never guess by now... Nobody thought I was funny. I'm not sure they knew I was there.

Oh wellllll....

Back to talking about Alaska... (and yes Ian... I WILL book...)

We're all different Michelle, and all you have been through makes you the great person you are, no need to feel odd or out of place etc. Loads of people love you.:grouphug: Now, go and tidy up that bedroom!!!:rotfl:

& btw... I told my brother he owes my sister $1800 for my father's memorial and burial... (we got handed the bill and my sister paid for it...)

Then I hung up on him...

Well done!!
 
Was going to add, but the Dis goes down at 9.05am my time, that I personally don't think there is anything wrong with being a 'loner'. I think many of us are and I find other people finding us strange just because they aren't is a little unnecessary!! The world is full of a whole rainbow of different people that makes up a wonderful whole. If we were all loud exuberant extraverts it would be hard to find a place anyway!!!:rotfl2: If we were all so called loners they it would be a quiet uninteresting place indeed.

John and I are both loners and I don't know how we managed to find each other, but we fit perfectly. As many of you know, we turn down requests to join larger fun tables, and I hope you realise it isn't because we don't like you or don't want to spend time with you. It is just us. Michelle is a loner, but loves this kind of large group setting. Just different, and we should all embrace our differences. I think families are much harder on other family members who don't fit their idea of norm as they just feel they can treat people badly because they are family and it has worked before.

As they say you can't choose your family but you can choose your friends. But, we can choose not to be intimidated by nasty family members!!!

Ok, now back to the wonderful world of planning cruises!!!:rotfl2:
 
Thanks for the explanation on names Ian. so you are really Isaac?(Yitzchak) I agree Ian doesn't sound Jewish. I believe it is Scottish for John, and that isn't Jewish at all.

My Hebrew name is Yitzchak (Isaac). My legal name, the one on my birth certificate is Ian.
 
So why did you get Ian as your legal name and not Yitzchak or Isaac? Is that usual?

It's something that happens here in the US and in the UK too for that matter. I think it's a matter of trying to fit in. Both here and in the UK, depending on the Hebrew name, parents will "match" the first initial of the Hebrew name with one in English.

In my case, my mother did not like the English translation of Yitzchak which is Isaac, and it was out of the question to pin a name like Yitzchak to me. So they looked for another boy's name that began with the letter I.

My peers in school would have been name, Ira, Ivan, Irving, etc.

I think my mother chose wisely.

Now funny thing ... in the UK Ian is a VERY common name for Jewish boys, and yep, they're Hebrew names ate usually Ytzchak.

When I live in the UK I got teased by friends in London for having such a common and steretypical Jewish boy's name.
 
It's something that happens here in the US and in the UK too for that matter. I think it's a matter of trying to fit in. Both here and in the UK, depending on the Hebrew name, parents will "match" the first initial of the Hebrew name with one in English.

In my case, my mother did not like the English translation of Yitzchak which is Isaac, and it was out of the question to pin a name like Yitzchak to me. So they looked for another boy's name that began with the letter I.

My peers in school would have been name, Ira, Ivan, Irving, etc.

I think my mother chose wisely.

Now funny thing ... in the UK Ian is a VERY common name for Jewish boys, and yep, they're Hebrew names ate usually Ytzchak.

When I live in the UK I got teased by friends in London for having such a common and steretypical Jewish boy's name.

Funny, I thought I had replied to this post, but it isn't here. Perhps I never hit the submit button!!!:rolleyes1

I can't see you being an Ira, Ivan or an Irving. Ian is a great name.

These days Isaac is becoming popular - at least over here.
 
Was going to add, but the Dis goes down at 9.05am my time, that I personally don't think there is anything wrong with being a 'loner'. I think many of us are and I find other people finding us strange just because they aren't is a little unnecessary!! The world is full of a whole rainbow of different people that makes up a wonderful whole. If we were all loud exuberant extraverts it would be hard to find a place anyway!!!:rotfl2: If we were all so called loners they it would be a quiet uninteresting place indeed.

John and I are both loners and I don't know how we managed to find each other, but we fit perfectly. As many of you know, we turn down requests to join larger fun tables, and I hope you realise it isn't because we don't like you or don't want to spend time with you. It is just us. Michelle is a loner, but loves this kind of large group setting. Just different, and we should all embrace our differences. I think families are much harder on other family members who don't fit their idea of norm as they just feel they can treat people badly because they are family and it has worked before.

As they say you can't choose your family but you can choose your friends. But, we can choose not to be intimidated by nasty family members!!!

Ok, now back to the wonderful world of planning cruises!!!:rotfl2:

Very well said, Marilyn!:thumbsup2

Michelle - You are fantastic the way you are, ignore your siblings opinions and trust your nieces/nephews opinions, and the thieves too! :goodvibes

Monica - very nice cake! I would not have guessed that was your first time decorating:thumbsup2

Speaking of names and family things. I am named after nobody at all. Mom just liked the names so I'm Shannon Leah :goodvibes
Ken's family has a tradition of the eldest son having two middle names with the second one being "Foster" after an ancestor, but that tradition is over now, since we ended up with just girls.
Both our girls have middle names after living family members (at least when the naming happened). Shaelyn has Marie after my grandmother. It also happens to be her step-grandmother's middle name, and her aunt's middle name (both from Ken's side) which made them happy. Ken's Mom & other sister have Lynne for middle name, so they both picked up on the lyn part of Shaelyn's name as being like theirs.
Kaleigh has Ann (which is my mother's middle name). My sister has Leanne for a middle name, so she picked up on the "leigh" part of Kaleigh's first name adding with the Ann in the middle as being LEE-ANN like her middle name.
So we managed to unintentionally make lots of family members have namesakes :lmao:

Kaleigh's name had to be a K name because we decided to have a K&S for kids to match our K&S. I didn't realize it until after Kaleigh was named, but we all have 7 letters in our names (Shannon, Kenneth, Shaelyn & Kaleigh).

Sharing other odd coincidences. #9 has to be my lucky number since my birthday is in September (9th month) on the 18th day (1+8=9) in '72 (7+2=9).

And now I really should get back to doing actual work. :rolleyes1
 
The reasons people name their children is really interesting.

I'm Marilyn Ruth. My mum wanted to call me Ruth, but thought I might get called Toothy Ruthy at school, so pushed it to middle name. My first name could have been Melanie, after the Gone With the Wind Melanie. They put the two names in a hat and my older sister pulled out the one I got!!:confused3 I always wished I had been Melanie, but really it is such a dainty name it would never have suited!:lmao:

John's name goes down the first son of the Mitchell's - alternating between first and second names. So his dad was William John, and our son is Andrew John.

Carolyn I just liked as I wanted Lyn, but thought this would give here more options for shortening. I think it sounds nice to say. Mary, her middle name is my mum's name.

David was named after his uncle who's birthday Andrew was born on, and if I had realised that at the time I would have called Andrew - David. David's middle name is Martin, which is John's middle name, and also his mum's maiden name.

None of our children named their children with any of our names, only one boy got John as a middle name. I guess Marilyn doesn't cut it these days!!:lmao:

There you go!!!!
 
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