Walt Disney rolling over in his grave

Encountered another fellow while we were at the United Kingdom area for Holidays Around the World. He was sloppy drunk and screaming profanitys at his female companion, complete with the finger gestures. There were several small children waiting for Father Christmas and they had to be subjected to that nonsense.

Actually, most of the people I've seen who were rowdy were in that exact spot. They were singing very loudly and obnoxiously to the British Invasion.

But I think if someone was being profane then they definitely should have been escorted out of the park. That is unacceptable.
 
I always drink when I am in Epcot. And if someone who's drinking is bothering you just walk away and ignore it. It's really none of your business what others do while on their vacation.
 
I always drink when I am in Epcot. And if someone who's drinking is bothering you just walk away and ignore it. It's really none of your business what others do while on their vacation.

First off, I have had a few beers at Epcot. The problem is not really people drinking but when people get fall-down drunk and are inconsiderate of others. Disney is for families and kids and they should not have to deal with people who have had to much to drink. Remember everyone is at Disney World to have a good time and if you have to be drunk to have a good time there are plenty of bars on property (at the hotels or Pleasure Island). However, it is my belief that the drinking thing is not really an issue yet (I have never seen anyone just belligerently drunk at Disney and I have been there a lot this year). All of this being said, I would like to see alcohol service in the parks limited to Epcot but I think we will have to remain content with the fact that the Magic Kingdom is an alcohol free environment.
 
I know that I watched CMs make guest dump and/or finish their drinks as people exited the F&WF. DF was excited to try a few new sam adams, not so much the price. DF commented truly you have to have a lot of money to get drunk at disney or be a cheap drunk. I never saw anyone drunk besides at Jellyrolls which in all fairness is a 21 and over bar.
 

mmmm....beer

Hey, it helps me not have panic attacks when I'm surrounded by hundreds of kids who don't understand the difference between personal and general space yet.
 
I have never seen this to be a problem when I go. I like to have a beer in EPCOT myself. I'm sure if someone got really drunk and out of hand, security would handel it, so I don't think it will even be an issue.

Like one poster said, when I'm on vacation, I'm absored in my own fun and not being an adult hall monitor.

Between you and me, let go of that stuff, it will just get in the way of your own enjoyment.
 
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I certainly understand business & I know that beer has been sold in EPCOT for years ... but having tons of people walking around w/ beer is dirty, smelly, & common. WDW's joy is largely in the fact that it's not like anywhere else in the world. Now it is. It smells like Six Flags now. Blecch. And I saw 2 people spill beer on children while I was there.


Don't go back there then. Disney and us "common people" will not miss you .:rolleyes1
 
My family and I arrived for a spot in MK about one hour prior to a Spectromagic parade last year and about 15 minutes before it started, a family with several small children SQUEEEEEEZED into our space. The kids were totally unruly and ended up spilling one of the drinks on our bag and I got a sucker stuck in my hair. To me, this was a HORRIBLE experience, yet I think it happens quite a bit. I had to explain to my kids that not everyone has the same 'rules' as we do and all we can worry about is ourselves.
Are there unruly kid/family police out there?
I've never seen anyone falling down drunk at EPCOT. Maybe I've just been lucky.:confused3
 
I don't drink (except when I was caught at the age of 12 or so by mom w/ one of her beers) but just think about it...

Consuming alcohol is one of the most risky behaviors, and we're bringing that into a theme park. I know plenty of people can control it, or think they can, but plenty of people can't. And the deal is that you begin drinking in your lifetime when you are at an age that you are immature (relative to the later years) and significantly affected by peers... self-control can be really low at this point.

I just don't think alcohol is meant for a family park. It kind of surprises me that people tout their ability and their pride for control, and a love for the different varieties especially with so many little people watching.

I'm not saying we should ban alcohol as a society, but it's one of those risks ours seems willing to take for such little gain. So what do I tell my 3 kids? A little alcohol can lighten your mood, more can make you drunk if you drink too much and affect your behavior. I believe life can be enjoyed without the fix, so that's why we don't drink. I rarely meet others that feel this way... but think about it if the kids listen then the risk is gone.

FWIW, I have never noticed a major problem at WDW... a little roudiness is the worst I've seen.
 
I certainly understand business & I know that beer has been sold in EPCOT for years ... but having tons of people walking around w/ beer is dirty, smelly, & common. WDW's joy is largely in the fact that it's not like anywhere else in the world. Now it is. It smells like Six Flags now. Blecch. And I saw 2 people spill beer on children while I was there.

Y'know, I'd be the first to state that I enjoy having a drink or three when at Epcot, Studios, etc... and I would have backed you up with respect to the fact that I've seen a few drunks. BUT, I don't get worked up by others' actions when they don't impact me, nor do I look upon others with the disgust and disdain that is so clear in your posts.

You lost me at "common."

Next time you go to Disney, I would advise that you simply spend more time enjoying yourself and your friends or family and less time watching others in disgust.
 
I don't drink alcohol and no one in my family drinks alcohol. Yes, I would prefer that WDW make all their parks alcohol free at least outside the restraunts. To me the negatives of it do outweigh the positives.

BUT WITH THAT SAID

I don't have the luxury of going to WDW as often as some of my fellow disers, but I have never (and I mean never), noticed people abusing alcohol while there. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying when it does it is in-frequent. And I really don't consider the issue a major one for Disney, and as it is right now, I don't consider it a major problem for me. As already stated by so many already, when I'm there I don't worry about what you are doing I'm focusing on what I'm doing.
 
I don't drink (except when I was caught at the age of 12 or so by mom w/ one of her beers) but just think about it...

Consuming alcohol is one of the most risky behaviors, and we're bringing that into a theme park. I know plenty of people can control it, or think they can, but plenty of people can't. And the deal is that you begin drinking in your lifetime when you are at an age that you are immature (relative to the later years) and significantly affected by peers... self-control can be really low at this point.

I just don't think alcohol is meant for a family park. It kind of surprises me that people tout their ability and their pride for control, and a love for the different varieties especially with so many little people watching.

I'm not saying we should ban alcohol as a society, but it's one of those risks ours seems willing to take for such little gain. So what do I tell my 3 kids? A little alcohol can lighten your mood, more can make you drunk if you drink too much and affect your behavior. I believe life can be enjoyed without the fix, so that's why we don't drink. I rarely meet others that feel this way... but think about it if the kids listen then the risk is gone.

FWIW, I have never noticed a major problem at WDW... a little roudiness is the worst I've seen.

Do you think they should ban alcohol from baseball, football and basketball games? Should they also ban it from restaurants? These are also family activities.

Yes, you are responsible for teaching your children about the effects of alcohol. Just trying to keep them away from it doesn't teach them anything.
 
I don't drink (except when I was caught at the age of 12 or so by mom w/ one of her beers) but just think about it...

Consuming alcohol is one of the most risky behaviors, and we're bringing that into a theme park. I know plenty of people can control it, or think they can, but plenty of people can't. And the deal is that you begin drinking in your lifetime when you are at an age that you are immature (relative to the later years) and significantly affected by peers... self-control can be really low at this point.

I just don't think alcohol is meant for a family park. It kind of surprises me that people tout their ability and their pride for control, and a love for the different varieties especially with so many little people watching.

I'm not saying we should ban alcohol as a society, but it's one of those risks ours seems willing to take for such little gain. So what do I tell my 3 kids? A little alcohol can lighten your mood, more can make you drunk if you drink too much and affect your behavior. I believe life can be enjoyed without the fix, so that's why we don't drink. I rarely meet others that feel this way... but think about it if the kids listen then the risk is gone.

FWIW, I have never noticed a major problem at WDW... a little roudiness is the worst I've seen.

It is your responsibility to teach your children about alcohol and no one else's. So yes, you can tell them exactly what you hypothetically stated:

A little alcohol can lighten your mood, more can make you drunk if you drink too much and affect your behavior.

Why should it be society at large that carries the brunt of responsibility in how your children view the world? That's the job you assumed when you became a parent.
 
Okay, it has taken almost 100 posts to determine very little.

1. Some people don't like to see drinking.
2. Some people like to drink.
3. Some people don't care as long as it's not hurting anybody else.

Does that about cover it? :confused3
 
Okay, it has taken almost 100 posts to determine very little.

1. Some people don't like to see drinking.
2. Some people like to drink.
3. Some people don't care as long as it's not hurting anybody else.

Does that about cover it? :confused3

soooooo rofl
 
Okay, it has taken almost 100 posts to determine very little.

1. Some people don't like to see drinking.
2. Some people like to drink.
3. Some people don't care as long as it's not hurting anybody else.

Does that about cover it? :confused3

Believe that covers it..........:thumbsup2
 
Do you think they should ban alcohol from baseball, football and basketball games? Should they also ban it from restaurants? These are also family activities.

Yes, you are responsible for teaching your children about the effects of alcohol. Just trying to keep them away from it doesn't teach them anything.

I don't insist other people change their behavior... that's not my business. However, it does surprise me how many people will give their kids a flu shot, buckle them in the car-seat, tell them the evils of the world, but with the great potential that comes from introducing kids to alcohol (at so-called controlled levels) they are still willing to take on the risks... that was my point. It's actually a very good question considering how risk-averse we are to children.

I can't make my kids avoid it, and in fact I'm glad they see it because that's the real world. But I teach them of the risks and I back it up by by showing them that being a non-consumer is a real option. Lots of people do it.

I'm not so much for pushing the issue, but I think really people do take a different perspective on drinking than other behaviors. Consuming alcohol is one of the least SMART things we do (based on the actual cause/effects). I wish people would just say I like doing things that push-the-edge and I'll do my best not to affect the people around me negatively.

Best wishes... I enjoyed your comments. Enough said :)

FYI... we'll be @ WDW on Saturday for 9 magical days!!!
 

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