Wahoo! Evolution stickers unconstitutional!

[Mickey_loves_Minnie]

Yup, just print this sucker out:

Neato!

 

[m&m's mom]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01/13/evolution.textbooks.ruling/



All I have to say about this is

Wow! Chadfromdallas and I agree on something!
Just because we have not found all of the pieces to the "Missing Link" doesn't mean it does not exist.

 

[greenban]

Yup, just print this sucker out:

Hey Chad can you break these for me? My bank doesn't have enough cash on hand for me to cash this baby. In fact, just send me $750,000.00 in $100, $50 & $20 bills and keep the $250,000.00 for your effort!

TIA

-Tony

 

[chadfromdallas]

And honestly, I don't appreciate being told that what I believe is crap.[/font]

Well, thats what it is considered in the scientific community. When you have no facts what so ever and your arguments are null its nothing, but laughable.

 

[chadfromdallas]

Hey Chad can you break these for me? My bank doesn't have enough cash on hand for me to cash this baby. In fact, just send me $750,000.00 in $100, $50 & $20 bills and keep the $250,000.00 for your effort!

TIA

-Tony

I'll get right on that as soon as you vote democratic

 

[crazyforgoofy]

I'll get right on that as soon as you vote democratic

Careful Chad. They'll be accusing you of buying votes with crack next!

 

[chadfromdallas]

Careful Chad. They'll be accusing you of buying votes with crack next!

 

[becka]

Not an actual typo but was trying to be 'sarcastic'. Of course the existence of evolution is FACT. There is plenty of proven scientific evidence tracing the development of a species from lower forms to todays form. That is fact not theory.

Does anyone one here not believe in Asquared + Bsquared = Csquared? What is the name of the mathemtical statement. The Pathagoreum Theory. Since 'theory' is in the title does that make it a 'maybe'; possibly not 'fact'?

It is called The Theory of Evolution because it is a scientific attempt to explain a process. That species alive today developed along a path from lower/common ancestors. That is FACT. The Theory is how they got from there to here, what were the mechanisms.

Actually it is called the Pythagorean Theorem.

Theorem

1. An idea that is demonstrably true or is assumed to be so.
2. A mathematical proposition that has been or is to be proved on the basis of explicit assumptions.

Theory

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

Evolution is called a theory because it cannot (has not) be proven. Most of the evidence certainly holds up IMHO but to outright call it a fact would be incorrect. It was once thought to be fact that the world was flat but we certainly have learned a lot since then. Science and scientific processes will continue to improve and help us understand the world around us. To state that anyone knows 100% that evolution is fact is a little arrogant when the world's best scientists cannot prove it.

 

[chadfromdallas]

Evolution is called a theory because it cannot (has not) be proven. Most of the evidence certainly holds up IMHO but to outright call it a fact would be incorrect. It was once thought to be fact that the world was flat but we certainly have learned a lot since then.

Its actually considered both a fact and a theory

read on:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

Biological evolution has been proven and observed.

 

[becka]

Its actually considered both a fact and a theory

read on:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

Biological evolution has been proven and observed.

It is a theory based on observable and proven facts. There is a difference.

 

[DisDuck]

maybe someone wants to tell evolutionary-biologists that it is not proven 'theory of evolution'. how does one explain that the modern horse can be traced back thru time to an ancestor that has a similar form. how does one explain that different species under the same genus have similar dna and other characteristics in common. Only by having a common ancestor can it be explained which then leads to evolution. Don't just focus on 'homosapiens'. In other animal groups the evidence is a lot more conclusive and physical evidence more extensive.

I thru this thought out on another thread but received little reply. If allowing for the teaching of 'intelligent design' as an alternate to evolution then 'who/what' is the designer. Might it be little green people from mars; otherwise it is 'g-d' and creationism which means that religion is being taught.

 

[Mickey_loves_Minnie]

It is a theory based on observable and proven facts. There is a difference.

Yes, there is a difference between fact and theory. But the point is that evolution itself is a fact, and it is only the process of evolution that is theory. It seems that's what people are missing here.

Personally, I believe God created the universe. If he did it with a Big Bang, hey cool. (Why not start things off with a bang?) And why not create humans through evolution? It makes no difference to me how God did it.

 

[chadfromdallas]

I thru this thought out on another thread but received little reply. If allowing for the teaching of 'intelligent design' as an alternate to evolution then 'who/what' is the designer. Might it be little green people from mars; otherwise it is 'g-d' and creationism which means that religion is being taught.

Exactly DisDuck.

Personally, I believe God created the universe. If he did it with a Big Bang, hey cool. (Why not start things off with a bang?) And why not create humans through evolution? It makes no difference to me how God did it.

Excellent way to look at it
This makes atheists happy as well as theists. Two birds, one rock.

 

[RyMickey]

Personally, I believe God created the universe. If he did it with a Big Bang, hey cool. (Why not start things off with a bang?) And why not create humans through evolution? It makes no difference to me how God did it.

I was waiting for someone to say this and was ready to type it when I came to page three and, lo and behold, there it is.

That being said, chadfromdallas, you're not gonna change anyone's beliefs with what you've posted. Whether a theory is fact or fact is theory or whatever, it doesn't make any difference. If someone wants to believe in Creationism, they're not gonna change their beliefs (and they probably won't read your link in the first place), especially if you call their beliefs "crap," whether or not the educated community believes it or not.

Oh, well. Not trying to start an all-out brawl...Just stating what I think (as you did, as well).

RyMickey

RyMickey

 

[caitycaity]

Not an actual typo but was trying to be 'sarcastic'. Of course the existence of evolution is FACT. There is plenty of proven scientific evidence tracing the development of a species from lower forms to todays form. That is fact not theory.

Does anyone one here not believe in Asquared + Bsquared = Csquared? What is the name of the mathemtical statement. The Pathagoreum Theory. Since 'theory' is in the title does that make it a 'maybe'; possibly not 'fact'?

It is called The Theory of Evolution because it is a scientific attempt to explain a process. That species alive today developed along a path from lower/common ancestors. That is FACT. The Theory is how they got from there to here, what were the mechanisms.

*stands, claps, and whistles*

 

[chadfromdallas]

That being said, chadfromdallas, you're not gonna change anyone's beliefs with what you've posted. Whether a theory is fact or fact is theory or whatever, it doesn't make any difference. If someone wants to believe in Creationism, they're not gonna change their beliefs (and they probably won't read your link in the first place), especially if you call their beliefs "crap," whether or not the educated community believes it or not.

Not trying to.

If they choose to be close minded and continue to believe in creationism, let them believe. I have my opinion about them though, thats for sure.

 

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

a prerequisite for all biology classes at my school is a class called Intro to Evolution which is taught with an Intro to Ecology class.
Well my roommate was incredibly religious and refused to take the class because it was about evolution so she could not take any further bio classes. She transferred.

 

[JMD]

Finally, a little common sense. I wonder what all of these devote religious folks would think if they walked into church on Sunday morning to find disclaimer stickers stuck on this inside cover of the Bible. Something to the effect that the Bible is only one theory of the creation of life and to take careful consideration while reading it.

Your comparing apples and oranges. People have a choice about going to church and whether or not they wanted to believe what they hear there. Some kids in public schools don't have that choice. Not all parents can afford to send there kids to private schools or have the luxury of home schooling them.

I agree with the disclaimers because evolution in taught as fact in public schools, and that couldn't furhter from the truth.

 

[chadfromdallas]

I agree with the disclaimers because evolution in taught as fact in public schools, and that couldn't furhter from the truth.

Lack of understanding on your part, but I'm not going to repeat what has already been said about it being truthful.

 

[JMD]

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

Biological evolution has been proven and observed.

I appreciate the fact that you post references to back up your arguement, but the sources you are posting are very biased. I'm sure I can find tons of information disputing evolution from religous based sites.

Also, your statement here is a bit ambiguous. Biological evolution has been proven and observed within a species. But there is no evidence that humans evolved from something else. I think everyone is talking about 2 different things.