So true! DH and I attended one of the Patriots' Training Camp sessions last summer. (Highly recommend it for those in the area, but go mid-week. The first Saturday session over 20,000 people showed up!) It was a very hot day, close to 90 degrees and full sun. I'm sure the players were drained after practicing in those conditions for several hours. When Bill Belichick blew the final whistle to end practice, all the guys who weren't on autograph duty that day headed to the locker room, except one. For quite a while after practice ended, Brady was still out there on the field, in the hot sun, throwing passes.
Some unofficial news about Copper Creek. My adult daughter has a friend who used to be a CM at WDW. This friend is at WDW visiting right now and spent some time with another friend who is currently working for DVC. She was told that DVC is planning on opening Copper Creek for sales next month. I have no idea how accurate this is - could be about as accurate as what they bus drivers tell us.
Friendly...That definitely makes more sense. Sometimes it is hard to remember that just because someone posts something on the internet doesn't make it true. I will never understand the pleasure that trolls get by putting controversial and false information out there.
They had a link to the Territory Lunge page but no link to Geyser Point, which I was kind of disappointed about because I want to see a menu for it! I wish I had grabbed a screenshot of it then, but did not think to.Friendly...That definitely makes more sense. Sometimes it is hard to remember that just because someone posts something on the internet doesn't make it true. I will never understand the pleasure that trolls get by putting controversial and false information out there.
Jennifer...thanks for the nice detective work!
I don't really understand the process of Disney declaring inventory to allow sales, etc. But it does seem that they are moving right along at this point and I guess if they have some of the WL room conversions complete as well as some of the cabins, they can start selling with an eye towards reservations in the 4th quarter I guess? Mostly I hope they start selling so we can find out some information such as point schedule, price per point and whether club level will be part of this new resort. Stay tuned!
I viewed the official RF dining webpage ( https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/wilderness-lodge-resort/roaring-fork/ ) on the WDW website a number of days ago. It said it was closed and said Territory Lounge and Geyser Point would have food. Well, it was worded nicer than that
Today, the same page says "Starting in mid-February, Roaring Fork will be closed for refurbishment. Please check back here for updates. Territory Lounge will remain available for your enjoyment."
What I saw anyway was not some rogue page; it was the official primary RF page. Perhaps with some rogue content.
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When I finally convince DH that we need to buy in, I have always planned SSR as the cost is low and the dues are low. However, if VWL stayed at a nice price point, I'd love to buy in there. Where does it sit as far dues? Mid level? Lower or higher end?So hard to say re: VWL. I can picture a scenario for both resale going up and going lower. On the one hand, perhaps there will be a new cachet with all the "improvements," and despite not being able to get into CCVC until 7 months, the thinking may be "well, at least it's close." There will be a buzz about the new Lodge which might provoke a surge in value. Conversely, and more to my way of thinking, those who had been on the fence about VWL may decide to bite the bullet and pay bigger bucks to get "new." In that case, the overall market for VWL would erode leading to lower prices, especially given the shrinking life of the contract for the older resort. I don't believe the resale would be precipitously low to begin; however, give it another 8-10 years, and I could easily see VWL going for bottom dollar. Given my age, I won't care too much as long as the rooms at VWL are still lovely and the resort desirable.
This has unfortunately become a bit of a mess.
My initial post said exactly what you just posted but in much shorter form and evidently very unclear....."somebody had posted a rogue link that appeared on the Disney site alleging a current closure. The link was then changed to a "future" mid-Feb closure and now has allegedly disappeared altogether." I called it a rogue link because although it was coming from Disney it was linking to information that was completely inaccurate, false, untrue, etc. RF was never closed and is currently open. My post was in response to another post saying that it was closed and evidently relying on the information found in the rogue Disney link. I'm just trying to provide accurate information for anyone reading along and didn't want anyone to rely on the misinformation that RF was closed....because it's not.
This is simply classic Disney IT. They prematurely posted a link that was supposed to go live in mid-February when RF will actually be closed. When they post the link at that time it will no longer be rogue because it will actually link to accurate information. I hope this is clearer now for anyone that cares
I believe VWL roughly sits in the top 1/3 of resorts' mnx fees, but that's only by a few cents over a couple of other resorts, so you could make the argument that it sits about in the middle. The main issue as Granny mentioned, is that come, say, 2022 or so, VWL will be seen as very near it's end contract date which will drive down resale value, especially since dues will get higher. However, it could still prove a good value for those who go in knowing what to expect.
Thank you!So, in summation, RF is still open; GP is not.
I believe VWL roughly sits in the top 1/3 of resorts' mnx fees, but that's only by a few cents over a couple of other resorts, so you could make the argument that it sits about in the middle. The main issue as Granny mentioned, is that come, say, 2022 or so, VWL will be seen as very near it's end contract date which will drive down resale value, especially since dues will get higher. However, it could still prove a good value for those who go in knowing what to expect.
Some unofficial news about Copper Creek. My adult daughter has a friend who used to be a CM at WDW. This friend is at WDW visiting right now and spent some time with another friend who is currently working for DVC. She was told that DVC is planning on opening Copper Creek for sales next month. I have no idea how accurate this is - could be about as accurate as what they bus drivers tell us.
I viewed the official RF dining webpage ( https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/wilderness-lodge-resort/roaring-fork/ ) on the WDW website a number of days ago. It said it was closed and said Territory Lounge and Geyser Point would have food. Well, it was worded nicer than that
Today, the same page says "Starting in mid-February, Roaring Fork will be closed for refurbishment. Please check back here for updates. Territory Lounge will remain available for your enjoyment."
What I saw anyway was not some rogue page; it was the official primary RF page. Perhaps with some rogue content.
This has unfortunately become a bit of a mess.
My initial post said exactly what you just posted but in much shorter form and evidently very unclear....."somebody had posted a rogue link that appeared on the Disney site alleging a current closure. The link was then changed to a "future" mid-Feb closure and now has allegedly disappeared altogether." I called it a rogue link because although it was coming from Disney it was linking to information that was completely inaccurate, false, untrue, etc. RF was never closed and is currently open. My post was in response to another post saying that it was closed and evidently relying on the information found in the rogue Disney link. I'm just trying to provide accurate information for anyone reading along and didn't want anyone to rely on the misinformation that RF was closed....because it's not.
This is simply classic Disney IT. They prematurely posted a link that was supposed to go live in mid-February when RF will actually be closed. When they post the link at that time it will no longer be rogue because it will actually link to accurate information. I hope this is clearer now for anyone that cares
