VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

[KAT4DISNEY]

Have a very Happy Birthday
@Muushka !!!


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[DisneyKeepsUsYoung]

Is there a benefit to buying before the "public sale" date as an existing member? Does the price tend to be cheaper or different incentives for existing members? It's not going to sell out any time soon, other than I guess fixed weeks could, so I'm curious what the difference in dates is for.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Is there a benefit to buying before the "public sale" date as an existing member? Does the price tend to be cheaper or different incentives for existing members? It's not going to sell out any time soon, other than I guess fixed weeks could, so I'm curious what the difference in dates is for.

For VGF and PVB there were discounts for members - I believe $5/pt. Then the price increased for the general public sale. However going further back there were often incentives later that meant lower purchase price vs what it was at the start of sales.

Also, Fixed weeks have not sold out at any resort and I wouldn't be too concerned here either if that is something you were considering unless DVC has decided to take a very different tact with them. Personally I think they just have it as an offering for those who want that traditional timeshare.

 

[rkstocke5609]

For VGF and PVB there were discounts for members - I believe $5/pt. Then the price increased for the general public sale. However going further back there were often incentives later that meant lower purchase price vs what it was at the start of sales.

Also, Fixed weeks have not sold out at any resort and I wouldn't be too concerned here either if that is something you were considering unless DVC has decided to take a very different tact with them. Personally I think they just have it as an offering for those who want that traditional timeshare.

If you think about it, it's the ultimate cash grab. So, DVC improves the traditional timeshare by using the point system add a use year with bank & borrow. It's wildly successful. Wait, so you want a fixed week? Well, that privilege will cost you an extra 10 percent.....it's priceless when you think about it. Up charging for something the point system improved upon....

 

[twokats]

Have a very Happy Birthday
@Muushka !!!


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Muushka, Have a great one!!!

 

[wdrl]

If you think about it, it's the ultimate cash grab. So, DVC improves the traditional timeshare by using the point system add a use year with bank & borrow. It's wildly successful. Wait, so you want a fixed week? Well, that privilege will cost you an extra 10 percent.....it's priceless when you think about it. Up charging for something the point system improved upon....

If you were to ask VGF owners who book studios every year if they wish they had bought a Guaranteed Week, I wonder how many would wish that they had?

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

If you were to ask VGF owners who book studios every year if they wish they had bought a Guaranteed Week, I wonder how many would wish that they had?

It sometimes crosses my mind that it's the chicken and the egg dilemma with VGF. Is it so hard to book studios because of the fixed weeks? Or is it so hard you needed the fixed week? That and having 1 to 1 1/2 weeks in December that are most certainly out of season.

 

[jimmytammy]

Happy Birthday Muushka!!!!!

 

[rkstocke5609]

If you were to ask VGF owners who book studios every year if they wish they had bought a Guaranteed Week, I wonder how many would wish that they had?

As someone who rescinded a 180 VGF points before buying my 210 VWL resale, my thought is it is likely there are many owners at VGF that probably wish they had the fixed week. I guess it's about how you are going to use your membership. I'm happier having more points for less because it allows me to flex into a 1BR one year, Studio the next. But, if you were buying the minimum points to cover a Studio , then I get the Fixed week since you can always opt out. Still sounds like a great cash grab...

 

[sleepydog25]

MUUSHKA MOOSEKA, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!

 

[wdrl]

It sometimes crosses my mind that it's the chicken and the egg dilemma with VGF. Is it so hard to book studios because of the fixed weeks? Or is it so hard you needed the fixed week? That and having 1 to 1 1/2 weeks in December that are most certainly out of season.

There are a maximum of 47 studios at VGF. The most number of Guaranteed Week studios sold at VGF for any given week is 8. That occurs in seven of the 12 weeks at the end of the year. The rest of the year has 60 Guaranteed Week studios spread over 40 weeks.

If these Guaranteed Week owners didn't own Guaranteed Weeks, then chances are they would still be trying to compete for studios for about the same time of year. So the net effect would still be the same: a large number of VGF owners would be competing for a limited number of studios.

There is a minor byproduct of the Guaranteed Week system that many people overlook. As more Guaranteed Weeks are used, availability actually increases for traditional points owners. A GW owner pays a 10% point premium to utilize their GW. For example, a week in a Standard View studio in October costs 125 points but a GW costs 138 points. So, when the GW owner utilizes the week, it leaves 13 points unused. Multiple that by all the GWs used throughout the year and VGF ends up with several thousand points that are not booked by GW owners*. Since this inventory is not used by GW owners, the first group that gets a shot at this unused inventory is the traditional point VGF owners.

* - my data shows that VGF has 97,809 points in Guaranteed Week deeds. If none of the GW owners opt out of using their GW, then there would be a surplus inventory of about 8,800 or 8,900 points at VGF.

 

[DisneyKeepsUsYoung]

For VGF and PVB there were discounts for members - I believe $5/pt. Then the price increased for the general public sale. However going further back there were often incentives later that meant lower purchase price vs what it was at the start of sales.

Also, Fixed weeks have not sold out at any resort and I wouldn't be too concerned here either if that is something you were considering unless DVC has decided to take a very different tact with them. Personally I think they just have it as an offering for those who want that traditional timeshare.

Thank you! The later incentives are usually only for larger point purchases aren't they? I just want a small 50-60 point add on so don't expect to qualify for any incentives. I'm anxious to find out what the price per point will be though!

 

[DiznyDi]

Wishing MUUSHKA a very Happy Birthday! Have fun celebrating another year young!

Hi to Mr Muush

 

[twinklebug]

Happy Birthday @Muushka!

 

[twinklebug]

DVC just posted their page for Copper Creek at disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/copper-creek-villas-and-cabins/

Available for sale starting April 5th. "This Resort is currently in the finishing stages of construction and scheduled to open in July 2017."

The points chart links work, but are not filled in yet.

 

[twinklebug]

My initial reaction to the picture of a unit: disappointment. Why does it look like a mish-mash of IKEA furniture?

 

[DisneyKeepsUsYoung]

DVC just posted their page for Copper Creek at disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/copper-creek-villas-and-cabins/

Available for sale starting April 5th. "This Resort is currently in the finishing stages of construction and scheduled to open in July 2017."

The points chart links work, but are not filled in yet.

It's March 8 for add on contracts if you log in.
And that maintenance of $7.33/point is steep to me!

 

[sleepydog25]

DVC just posted their page for Copper Creek at disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/copper-creek-villas-and-cabins/

Available for sale starting April 5th. "This Resort is currently in the finishing stages of construction and scheduled to open in July 2017."

The points chart links work, but are not filled in yet.

The page I'm reading says available for current owners on March 8th. Also, it IS only one picture, but I have to agree that based on the one shot, it doesn't look very well-themed which is at odds with the picture of kids hiding out under a sheet tent as the ad appears to extol the "wilderness" nature of the new resort. Hmmm, we'll see.

And it appears the cabins' plunge pools will actually be hot tubs, at least according to the description.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

My initial reaction to the picture of a unit: disappointment. Why does it look like a mish-mash of IKEA furniture?

I see they used the same designer who is terrified of color. Pacific Norhtwest railroad?

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Did everyone see it says "the Copper Creek Springs pool with 67 foot water slide"? Never mind - didn't click that it is the name of the main pool. I saw springs and was thinking new name for Hidden Springs coupled with them referring to it as the new Copper Creek springs pool. Or is it the new one? Confused now. Edit again - its the existing pool. Don't call it new marketing people!