VGT rates on the Treasure for the fall

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Wonderful for those who want it but not a great sign for how DCL is doing

Sure, but also most of these guarantee rates are still really expensive. It's like DCL doesn't yet want to admit that they're overpriced, so they're keeping base prices the same or even higher while increasingly offering GTY cabins. I think this strategy has some limits, because there are only so many people who can book last-minute GTY cabins, and these people are typically all Floridians or from other nearby states. There's only so much demand even with lower GTY prices. I think DCL would do better to continue to build their customer pipeline and that ultimately might mean lower across-the-board pricing, at least until there's a change in their micro-econ situation (i.e. until their total market catches up with all their new supply).
 
Sure, but also most of these guarantee rates are still really expensive. It's like DCL doesn't yet want to admit that they're overpriced, so they're keeping base prices the same or even higher while increasingly offering GTY cabins. I think this strategy has some limits, because there are only so many people who can book last-minute GTY cabins, and these people are typically all Floridians or from other nearby states. There's only so much demand even with lower GTY prices. I think DCL would do better to continue to build their customer pipeline and that ultimately might mean lower across-the-board pricing, at least until there's a change in their micro-econ situation (i.e. until their total market catches up with all their new supply).
I think you hit the nail on the head! DCL never thought that they would need to be releasing discounts on thier newest ship so soon? They can't back track on pricing because that would be admitting thier greed got too high. Discounts verses lower prices from the get go can help them save face somewhat.
 

It just seems to me that their prices are too high
They are too high. I haven't sailed with DCL since 2011, but I am hoping to hop on the Fantasy next year for a shorter cruise. And the fare is ridiculous. But unfortunately I can't go with a last minute rate as my husband does not need to be in a cabin at the front of the ship. If it was just me and my daughter, it would be the last minute fares. Which I think will become even more common in the future. I think Disney counted thier chickens before they hatched with all these new ships.
 



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